--- Log opened Mon Apr 07 01:06:39 2003
01:07 < pajh> erm.
01:07 < meng_> foo
01:07 < pajh> No.
01:07 < meng_> so then, who is this 'hot geek chix0r'
01:08 < Yoda> some 40 yo bloke trying to chat Paul up
01:08 < meng_> same as usual then
01:08 -!- Electron_ [~Electron@212.159.111.239] has joined #compsoc
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01:09 < pajh> I have pics.
01:09 < pajh> So it must be true.
01:09 < meng_> of course
01:09 < Yoda> yeah, it *must* be true
01:09 < pajh> That's what I just said.
01:09 < meng_> We believe you
01:09 < Yoda> you're so full of crap
01:09 < Yoda> if only ...
01:10 < pajh> Look, I can tell a woman from a guy pretending to be a woman.
01:10 < meng_> how?
01:10 < pajh> I have insider knowledge and a devious inquiring mind in my favour.
01:10 < meng_> 'insider'?  Do elucidate.
01:10 < Yoda> answer me this, when was the last time you pulled?
01:10 < meng_> That's a bit blunt, Kate
01:10 < pajh> Yoda: Fresher's week 1999.
01:11 < Yoda> well then
01:11 < pajh> Not counting:
01:11 < pajh> one random dreunken shag.
01:11 < Yoda> so much for "insider" knowledge
01:11 < pajh> one event that would have turned into a random drunken shag if I wasn't so much of a gentleman.
01:11 < Yoda> that makes 2 in 4 years
01:11 < pajh> (which I have regretted ever since.)
01:12 < Yoda> wow! what a record!
01:12 < pajh> one time a girl asked me "up for coffee" and I turned her down, because I actually wanted a coffee.
01:12 < pajh> (no, really.)
01:12 < pajh> getting the same chick back. Twice.
01:12 < pajh> and...
01:12 < pajh> that's it.
01:13 < pajh> Does a threesome where one of the participants has already been counted count as another `pull'?
01:13 < Yoda> can i suggest something
01:14 < pajh> Oh, and the redheaded witch. That counts.
01:14 < Yoda> that you should get a hooker, then we don't have to listen to you going on about that lack of "pulls"
01:14 < pajh> You cheeky wee cow.
01:14 < pajh> You asked.
01:14 < pajh> Since when have I `gone on'?
01:14 < Yoda> i thought nothing happened with the redhead?
01:14 <@beaneater> crap, apparently ¬ changes meaning in ISO-8859-15
01:14 <@beaneater> I like ¬
01:15 < pajh> That was a non-witch redhead.
01:15 < pajh> This was an actual witch, with whom things did happen.
01:15 < pajh> Sort of.
01:15 < Yoda> sort of?
01:16 < pajh> And a girl the other week who flicked my tie and said, "mrowr".
01:16 < Yoda> they either did happen or they didn't
01:16 < Yoda> oh boy
01:16 < pajh> Apply fuzzy logic, and define a dividing line.
01:17 < Yoda> fuzzy logic?
01:17 < Yoda> at this time in the morning?
01:17 < meng_> depends how much you've had to drink
01:17 < pajh> it's not even two.
01:17 < pajh> not nearly enough.
01:18 < Yoda> let's move onto something else
01:18 < meng_> but this is paul's favourite topic
01:18 < Yoda> i know, i know
01:18 < pajh> We already had done. What is the cutoff point between `something happened' and `something didn't happen'.
01:18 < pajh> ?
01:18 < pajh> In sex terms.
01:19 < Yoda> but between talking about paul and ironing, i chose ironing. I've now finished the ironing, so lets talk about something else
01:19 < Yoda> cut off point
01:19 < Yoda> :
01:19 < pajh> ?
01:19 <@beaneater> The cut off point is the colon?
01:20 < pajh> maybe it's the long pause.
01:20 < Yoda> i'm embarrassed
01:20 < meng_> The colon? how intimate do you need to get?
01:20 < Yoda> to talk about it here
01:20 < pajh> lol
01:20 <@beaneater> That's an anally-fixated world view
01:20 <@Electron> wasn't a colon a cut in some language?
01:20 < Yoda> STOP IT STOP IT! this insanity has to stop at once
01:21 <@beaneater> what is a cut in prolog?
01:21 < meng_> !
01:21 < pajh> Now /that's/ topicable.
01:21 <@beaneater> '!' ?
01:21 < meng_> '!' !
01:21 <@Electron> ah yes, that's it
01:21 < pajh> ('!' !)?
01:21 <@beaneater> meng_: I typed that before your line came in, dammit
01:22 < meng_> If there's one way tokill the chat, it's to bring up Prolog
01:22 -!- beaneater changed the topic of #compsoc to: << Yoda> STOP IT STOP IT! this insanity has to stop at once< Yoda> STOP IT STOP IT! this insanity has to stop at once
01:22 <@beaneater> erm.
01:22 < Yoda> nooooooooo
01:23 < Yoda> do not mock me
01:23 < pajh> tut tut.
01:23 < Yoda> i demand respect - R.E.S.P.E.C.T
01:23 -!- beaneater changed the topic of #compsoc to: <Yoda> STOP IT STOP IT! this insanity has to stop at once
01:23 <@beaneater> Well it beats Go CompSoc!
01:23 < pajh> Since when is this channel -t ?
01:23 <@beaneater> Unless you want me to make it regarding your colon?
01:23 < Yoda> no no
01:23 < Yoda> that's ok
01:23 < pajh>  /topic #CompSoc: for discussion on all things regarding Yoda's colon.
01:24 < Yoda> noooo. change topic
01:24 < Yoda> lets talk about something else
01:24 < Yoda> entirely
01:25 < meng_> any suggestions
01:25 <@beaneater> pajh: we should be +t or -t?
01:25 < pajh> Oh bugger.
01:25 < pajh> I don't know.
01:25 < pajh> Whichever one we aren't.
01:25 < meng_> agree
01:25 -!- mode/#compsoc [-t] by beaneater
01:25 -!- mode/#compsoc [+t] by beaneater
01:26 < pajh> Not that one.
01:26 <@beaneater> hang on, paradox encountered
01:26 < pajh> The other one.
01:26 -!- mode/#compsoc [-t] by beaneater
01:26 -!- mode/#compsoc [+o pajh] by beaneater
01:26 <@pajh> Or that will do.
01:26 <@pajh>  /kickban YOU ALL!!!! muwahahahaahah.
01:26 < Yoda> like i care
01:26 <@pajh> Power is nothing without abuse.
01:26 < meng_> then you have nobody to talk to
01:27 < Yoda> oh yes i will
01:27 < meng_> leading back to your original predicament
01:27 < Yoda> of?
01:27 < meng_> paul, i mean
01:27 <@pajh> I can wait until hot geek chix0r signs on.
01:27 < meng_> on your own
01:27 < Yoda> lol
01:27 < Yoda> background blars out "All by myself"
01:28 <@beaneater> (as an aside, ops for everybody, ops for current/past committee (i.e. us), current comm, or just the grand dictators?)
01:28  * pajh just found a copy of tha Tatu video in my old ~ directory. I can keep myself occupied for ages now.
01:28 <@beaneater> *cough*
01:28 < meng_> ops for nobody
01:28 < Yoda> don't do it paul, think of the cats!
01:28 <@pajh> Ops for me and those with status on the server. But topicable by all.
01:28 < Yoda> or kittens
01:29 <@beaneater> "with status"?
01:29 < Yoda> ops for no one, we are all equal!
01:29 < meng_> ops for nobody and topic change for all
01:29 <@pajh> But some are more equal than others.
01:29 < meng_> down with the system
01:29 -!- mode/#compsoc [+o meng_] by beaneater
01:29 <@beaneater> see how you like that, punk
01:30 <@Electron> Yoda: kittens - cats are cruel killing machines, kittens are cute :)
01:30 -!- meng_ was kicked from #compsoc by meng_ [meng_]
01:30 <@pajh> Kittens are evil killing machines in training.
01:30 <@pajh>  /hara-kiri ?
01:30 < Yoda> they are not!
01:30 < meng> down with the system
01:31 <@beaneater> hehe.
01:31 <@beaneater> (to meng)
01:31 -!- mode/#compsoc [+v meng] by beaneater
01:31 <@beaneater> :P
01:31 < Yoda> do you want a slap?
01:31 < Yoda> or are you asking for one?
01:31 <+meng> what's a +v
01:31 <@pajh> CXareful: Yoda knows about the /slap command.
01:32 <@pajh> Any way we can disable that, btw?
01:32 < Yoda> i mean a real life one
01:32 <@pajh> I demand greater inventiveness when I get slapped.
01:32 < Yoda> i know where you live
01:32 <@pajh> Each one lovingly handcrafted from recycled electrons.
01:32 < Yoda> i know where everyone lives
01:32 <@beaneater> meng: I just wanted to see the pretty plus sign
01:32 <@pajh> (lowercase E, don't worry, Bruce.)
01:33 <@pajh> OMG. If I type `foo' in ~pajh and hit tab, the whole screen fills up.
01:33 <@beaneater> hehe
01:34 <@pajh> I have a foo, a foo.html, a foo.html~...
01:34 <@pajh> a foo.pl, a foobarbaz, and Goddess knows what else.
01:35 <@pajh> Oh, and I have a video of Lucius Malfoy performing the Kiling Curse.
01:36 < Yoda> once again, we have stepped one step too far into the weird world of Paul Hamiliton
01:36 <@pajh> Just one I, darling.
01:37  * pajh tries to turn that into a motto.
01:37 < Yoda> 1 is enough
01:37 <@beaneater> I have a directory so full of pictures of myself that I've been waiting for "ls|wc -l" for a while
01:37 <+meng> Doesn't that happen when you take them every thirty seconds
01:38 <@beaneater> yes, it seems so
01:38 <@beaneater> I was going to do directories
01:38 <@Electron> haha - watching swordfish, there's a finnish computer hacker called torvalds
01:38 <@beaneater> hmm, I wonder if I've broken something, it doesn't even *start* listing
01:38 <@pajh> Here: anyone know where I can pick up some decent info on the sociology of Thatcherite Britain?
01:38 <+meng> Why would you want to?
01:39 <@pajh> It's a long story, involving things, and stuff.
01:39 < Yoda> i repeat: once again, we have stepped one step too far into the weird world of Paul Hamiliton
01:39 <@pajh> And spon. Lots of spon.
01:39 <@pajh> Doing some research for a friend.
01:40 <@pajh> Yoda: /you/ stepped one step too far when you called that first ever CompSoc meeting.
01:40 <@pajh> The rest of you, when you turned up to it.
01:40 <+meng> You're included
01:40 < Yoda> i was young then
01:40 < Yoda> i now see the errors of my ways
01:40 <+meng> how could you ever make amends
01:41 < Yoda> any suggestions?
01:41 <@beaneater> I think I've broken ls
01:41 <+meng> try find | wc -l
01:42 <@beaneater> good plan that man
01:42 <@pajh> echo * | wc -l
01:42 <@beaneater> does ls try to read lots into memory so that it can sort?
01:42 < Yoda> how about i execute a plan to destroy compsoc?
01:42 <@beaneater> pajh: no, there are too many files for globbing
01:42 <@beaneater> hey, only 14173 files
01:43 <@beaneater> meng: thanks
01:43 <+meng> you should use 'montage' to turn them into a scary poster
01:43 <@beaneater> not on that machine
01:43 <@beaneater> it takes so long to resize jpegs
01:43 <@pajh> `scary poster' is a great phrase that needs to see more mileage.
01:44 <+meng> you bet
01:44 <@beaneater> my photo gallery, adding 10 1600x1200 pictures with thumbnails and medium versions takes ages
01:44 <@beaneater> like have a couple of cups of coffee
01:44 <@pajh> Regarding that movie file I just found: "You shall not harm Scary Poster!" "Avara...."
01:44 <@pajh> Scary Poster and the Goblet of Fire.
01:44 <+meng> Scary Poster and the Curse of the Newsgroups
01:45 <@pajh> The Unforgivable Curses: /kick/ /kickban, and /slap.
01:45  * Yoda looks away
01:46 <@beaneater> /slap is a mircism, right?
01:46 <@pajh> not available in xchat. I just checked.
01:46 <@beaneater> To rephrase that, /slap is an evil mIRCism.
01:47 <@pajh> True.
01:49 <+meng> /alias slap /me slaps $0 around a bit with a wet fish.
01:50 <@pajh> mmmm, alias.
01:50 <@pajh> (jennifer garner)++
01:51  * beaneater slaps meng around a bit with a $0 wet fish
01:51 <@beaneater> die.
01:52 <+meng> never!
01:52 <@beaneater> /axemurder meng
01:52 <+meng> -!- axemurder  Unknown command
01:53 <@beaneater> þ
01:53 < Yoda> talking of fish, anyone fancy a fishing trip?
01:54 <+meng> "Compsoc Goes Fishing"
01:54 <@pajh> Usually more "CompSoc Goes Trolling", I would have thought.
01:54 <+meng> I thought that was just you
01:55 <@beaneater> are we having a meal or anything this term?
01:55 < Yoda> i thought we had this discussion
01:55 <@pajh> We bloody well should.
01:55 <@beaneater> Yoda: I haven't when pajh has been around ;)
01:55 <@beaneater> some of us will (presumably) be graduating this year
01:55 < Yoda> yeah!!!! woohooo!!!
01:56 <@beaneater> Not that I plan to go anywhere.
01:56 <@pajh> Graduations require a meal, I think. And bubbly.
01:56 < Yoda> well, if we want to have it at Graduation time, we have to book now
01:57 <@beaneater> avery hot meal
01:57 <@pajh> Yes, good thought.
01:57 < Yoda> i'm booking soon for a meal with me and my folks
01:57 < Yoda> plus some random guy's family
01:57 < Yoda> at the same meal
01:57 <+meng> why?
01:57 < Yoda> just because we did the same degree and graduating in the same year ...
01:57 <@pajh> That's not a reason.
01:58 < Yoda> tell my mother that!
01:58 < Yoda> plus his lunatic little brothers
01:58 <@pajh> why? Is your mother graduating too?
01:58 <@pajh> Whose day is this?
01:58 <@pajh> I plan to stage a huge scene at my graduation.
01:58 < Yoda> no, my mum knows his parents
01:58 <@pajh> Will probably be to do with the photos.
01:58 < Yoda> that's why we all plan to go out together
01:59 < Yoda> paul, what happens if you don't get over 50% this year?
01:59 <@pajh> When my mother objects, I shall tell her "Look, I invited you here today so that YOU could share in MY glory, not the other way around."
01:59 <@pajh> And I shall do it very loud.
01:59 < Yoda> will you be kicked off the course forever?
01:59 <@pajh> Yoda: I haven't thought that far ahead.
02:00 <+meng> No, you have to fail six times
02:00 <@Electron> my mother will probably repeat her comment 'well, if you'd worked a bit harder you could have got a 1st'
02:00 < Yoda> not a good idea mate
02:00 < Yoda> six times? you have to be pretty thick
02:00 <@pajh> What's not a good idea?
02:00 <@Electron> or just want to stay at uni forever
02:01 < Yoda> <pajh> I haven't thought that far ahead.
02:01 <@pajh> I narrowly avoided a blazing row with my mother today by the simple expedient of hanging up the phone.
02:01 <+meng> I think you do a PhD if you want to stay forever
02:01 <@pajh> I was, however, unable to prevent her from ruining my grandfather's birthday.
02:01 < Yoda> well i avoided an agrument with my mum over the weekend because i was ill
02:02 < Yoda> vomiting always does the trick
02:02 <@pajh> Difficult to do over the phone....
02:02 < Yoda> the fun!
02:02 < Yoda> not hard to pretend
02:02 <@Electron> I avoided an argument with my mum because I didn't answer the phone
02:03 <@pajh> But cleaning mobile phones is a bitch,.
02:03 <+meng> What you need is an answering machine
02:03 <@Electron> oh for teleporting puke
02:03 <@pajh> Will have to call mum tomorrow and scream at her.
02:04 < Yoda> don't, that woman carried you in her womb for nine months, you ungrateful little ...
02:04 <@Electron> meng: the problem with PhDs is you've got to be intelligent to do them - which I'm not
02:05 <@pajh> I know a girl who got a PhD, and she was so stupid, she married my ex-brother.
02:05 <+meng> how is he your ex-brother?
02:05 <@pajh> Admittedly, she was intelligent enough to divorce him within three months of the period I publically declared that the mariage would last at the reception.
02:06 <@pajh> Because he was my brother, and now he is not.
02:06 <+meng> Do explain
02:06 < Yoda> that's you off my invite list
02:06 <@pajh> Yoda: the point here is that I was right. Marry the right guy and I won't have any reason to do so at /your/ wedding.
02:08 < Yoda> does it have to be a guy ;)
02:08 < Yoda> only joking of course
02:08 <@pajh> Not if you promise to do a cover version of the Tatu video.
02:09 < Yoda> why don't we just go to CC Blooms, might solve quite a few of your problems
02:09 <@pajh> meng: I realised that the old saying `you can choose your friends but you can't choose your family' had an obvious solution.
02:09 <@pajh> Yoda: doubtful.
02:10 < Yoda>  lesbians making out?
02:11 < Yoda> that obviously stopped the conversation
02:11 <@pajh> Yes, but how many of them am I likely to---as you so delicately put it---`pull'?
02:12 <+meng> Depends how you rate your chances
02:12 < Yoda> more than you think, more than you think
02:12 < Yoda> i think we had this conversation in the pub the other night
02:13 < Yoda> you fall in love with the personality, not the person
02:13 <@pajh> wtf are you talking about?
02:13 < Yoda> nm
02:13 <+meng> I am not sure that it applies in this case
02:13 < Yoda> i think it does
02:13 < Yoda> to an extent
02:13 < Yoda> maybe I'm wrong again
02:13 <@pajh> I could have sworn that you were typing in the wrong window.
02:14 < Yoda> you had to be there for that conversation
02:14 <+meng> anyway since when did paul fall for the personality 
02:14 < Yoda> i meant the other way round!
02:14 <@pajh> Every time, dear boy. Every time.
02:14 <+meng> right
02:14 < Yoda> tut tut
02:15 < Yoda> lets move on to something else
02:15 <+meng> it's a topic we seem to frequently return to
02:15 <@pajh> Every. Fucking. Time.
02:16 <+meng> but hey, this is compsoc
02:16 < Yoda> leave compsoc out of this
02:16 <+meng> we already did
02:16 < Yoda> aren't you two slightly proud of what we did?
02:17 < Yoda> you know, setting up compsoc
02:17 <+meng> i was wondering what i'd done
02:17 < Yoda> i think it was a fantastic thing to do
02:17 <+meng> but, this is what we have to show for it
02:17 < Yoda> and i'm dead proud anyway
02:17 <+meng> that and the time capsule
02:17 <@pajh> Will you please explain what you're both on about?
02:18 < Yoda> and i still have that famed piture of the compsoc committee
02:18 <@pajh> Or is this Non-Sequitur Night?
02:18 < Yoda> framed
02:18 <@pajh> What picture this?
02:18 < Yoda> the south park one, the one Mark gave me
02:18 < Yoda> and
02:18 < Yoda> oh, only you haven't signed it Paul
02:18 < Yoda> out of the compsoc old gang
02:18 <@pajh> And need I reitrate that CompSoc is now a valued part of the Informatics teaching/support infrastructure, with money and robots coming?
02:18 <+meng> i don't remember
02:19 <+meng> where are the robots
02:19 < Yoda> can you sign it too, if i bring it along sometime
02:19 <@pajh> They haven't arrived yet.
02:19 < Yoda> are they like the ones from robot wars
02:19 < Yoda> ?
02:20 < Yoda> do you know what, i can't use the colon seriously again
02:20 <@pajh> But Mike and I were discussing these: http://www.cyberbotics.com/products/robots/khepera.html
02:20 < Yoda> and its all compsoc's fault
02:20 <+meng> to do what
02:20 <+meng> (the robots, not the colon)
02:21 <@pajh> play with, you fool.
02:21 <@pajh> Hack on.
02:21 < Yoda> what? just to play with?
02:21 < Yoda> in the Peartree?
02:21 <@pajh> to hack on.
02:21 <+meng> well, since we don't get to hack on vision or robots, in the course "Introduction to Vision and Robotics", it's the least we can do
02:22 <@pajh> it's called `Introduction to Vision and Robotics', not `Hackery with Vision and Robotics'.
02:22 < Yoda> and when are we getting these?
02:22 <+meng> bah
02:22 <@pajh> Patience, grasshopper.
02:23 <@pajh> I have to speak to him after the merger.
02:23 < Yoda> before we graduate?
02:23 < Yoda> or after?
02:23 <@pajh> So that's another reason for you all to turn up to the EGM.
02:23 <+meng> Not before paul does
02:23 <@beaneater> well I'm hanging around
02:23 < Yoda> that'll be another 6 years
02:24 <@pajh> Cheeky buggers.
02:24 <@pajh> Get a job, you bloody students.
02:24 <+meng> i got plenty
02:24 < Yoda> Get a degree, you bloody slob
02:25 <@beaneater> get a slob, you...
02:25 <@pajh> Need I remind you that I am a) a Young Professional in Management; b) earnign money; c) highly influential in the Division of Informatics.
02:26 <+meng> lol
02:26 <@pajh> d) owed a pint by Kevin Warwick.
02:26 < Yoda> meng: btw have you read that book yet?
02:26 <@beaneater> yeah, why is the person not actually a student doing all the informatics stuff?
02:26 <@beaneater> pajh, that is actually amusing
02:26 <+meng> because he's the one with all the free time
02:26 <+meng> kate, of course not
02:26 <@beaneater> and I'm revising
02:27 <@pajh> Because I'm the only member of CompSoc who appears capable of getting his arse in gear?
02:27 < Yoda> have you read the Roald Dahl ones?
02:27 <@beaneater> so why do I keep almost going to write Perl?
02:27 <+meng> no not either
02:27  * Yoda slaps meng around a bit with a large trout
02:27 <+meng> oi
02:27 < Yoda> it had to be done
02:27  * beaneater slas Yoda around a bit with a large stout
02:28 <@beaneater> or stoat
02:28 < Yoda> for not reading Roald Dahl?
02:28  * pajh almost slaps meng around with a large trout
02:28  * beaneater 
02:28  * beaneater  
02:28  * meng 
02:28  * beaneater 
02:28  * meng 
02:28 <@pajh> ENOUGH
02:28 <@beaneater> (It's all /me /me, /me)
02:28 < Yoda> i beat you guys by the fact that I actually have a trout
02:28 <@pajh> lol!
02:28 < Yoda> in the freezer
02:29 <@beaneater> ow.
02:29 <@beaneater> that would hurt.
02:29 <@beaneater> being hit by frozen trout, not having a trout in the freezer, that is.
02:29 < Yoda> you betcha
02:29  * pajh slaps Yoda around with a Colossal Squid.
02:29 <+meng> if would if you were the trout
02:29 < Yoda> what?
02:29 <@beaneater> having a trout in the freezer probably doesn't hurt that much, even if you're the trout
02:29 < Yoda> i caught it myslef
02:30 <@beaneater> meng: nah, don't think you actually feel anything when you're frozen
02:30 < Yoda> and killed it - all by myself
02:30 <+meng> actually, it's long dead, after being whacked on the head by our Kate
02:30 <+meng> so it widn feel a thing
02:30 < Yoda> it was a beautiful moment
02:30 -!- pajh changed the topic of #compsoc to: Kate Ho: CompSoc's own Yoda, and Trout Killer Extraordinaire.
02:31 < Yoda> mmm
02:31 < Yoda> don't like the topic much
02:31 <@pajh> Don't like /you/ much.
02:32 <@pajh> But I can live with it.
02:32 <@pajh> So must you.
02:32 < Yoda> thanks now
02:32 <@pajh> :p
02:32 < Yoda> the feeling's mutual
02:32 <@pajh> You love me really.
02:32 < Yoda> as much as I loved that trout
02:33 <@pajh> *eep*
02:33 <@beaneater> hot trout lovin'
02:33 < Yoda> but i haven't eaten it yet, so, there might be hope still
02:33 <+meng> not hot now
02:33 <@pajh> `Hot Trout Lovin' would be an excellent name for a rock band.
02:33 <@beaneater> I don't want to know how eating it translates to paul
02:33 <+meng> hot not now
02:33 < Yoda> ...!!!
02:33 <+meng> now not hot
02:34 <@pajh> how not not?
02:35 <+meng> not not what
02:35 < Yoda> let's not go there
02:35 <+meng> it's not so much as a colon, anyway
02:36 < Yoda> i hate you! i will never be able to use that again!
02:36 < Yoda> for the REST OF MY LIFE!
02:36 <+meng> the shame
02:36 <@beaneater> :)
02:36 < Yoda> do you know how harmful that is
02:36 <@pajh> :) <-- colons make you smile
02:36 <+meng> eww
02:36  * beaneater winks at pajh 
02:36 < Yoda> imagine all my reports will have no colons in it
02:37 < Yoda> i am scarred for life
02:37 < Yoda> and i play prop
02:37 <+meng> you would be with a colon
02:37 <@beaneater> scarred on the colon?
02:37 <@beaneater> ouch
02:37 < Yoda> i will physically hunt all of you down
02:38 <+meng> lets not go there
02:38 < Yoda> and exterminate you
02:38 < Yoda> me and my frozen trout
02:38 <+meng> trouts have feelings too
02:38  * Yoda sobbing in the corner
02:39 < Yoda> with my trout
02:39 < Yoda> yeah, i'm sure it does ...
02:39 <@pajh> trout::slap(Yoda) ;
02:39 <@pajh> even had a semicolon.
02:40 < Yoda> i hate you guys
02:40 < Yoda> i don't know why i bother sometimes
02:40 <+meng> all for the glory
02:42 <@pajh> all for one, and one for all
02:42 < Yoda> yeah
02:43 <@beaneater> two for tea, and tea for two
02:43 <+meng> the three trees
02:45 <@pajh> the Guildford Four?
02:45 <+meng> for four more
02:45 <@pajh> Incidentally, I was once a member of the Collingwood Four.
02:45 <+meng> So are they the Collingwood Three now?
02:46 <@pajh> No.
02:47 <@pajh> None of us are.
02:47 <@pajh> I suppose we're all individually Collingwood Ones.
02:47 <+meng> Sounds like Thunderbirds.
02:48 <@pajh> You'd be surprised how appropriate that phrase was.
02:48 <@beaneater> where's Collingwood?
02:49 <@pajh> HMS Collingwood, Fareham, Hants.
02:49 <@beaneater> oh
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02:50 <@pajh> pajh never does things by halves.
02:51 <+meng> why not?
02:51 <@pajh> When I get arrested and taken in for questioning, it's by the Ministry of Defence Police at a Naval Base.
02:52 <@Electron> Swordfish++
02:52 <@Electron> great film
02:53 <@pajh> It's on my list.
02:54 <@Electron> human claymores == biiig explosions == good
02:54 <@pajh> Don't spoiler me.
02:56 <@pajh> heheheheheheh.
02:56 <@pajh> Gary has to go to his "Gateways to Work" course tomorrow.
02:56 <@pajh> And I don't even have to go to work.
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02:57 <@pajh> So I've hung my t-shirt outside his room, the one that says `SUCCESS MEANS NEVER HAVING TO WEAR A SUIT', with a note pinned to it reading: "Go on. I dare you."
02:57 <@Electron> yay, so you get to be nocturnal for a single night
02:57 <@Electron> haha
02:58 <@pajh> Apparently the course leader is this quintessential example of the fuckwitted manager.
02:58 <@pajh> Gary is learning the valuable work skills of apathy, sarcasm and cynicism e'en as we speak.
03:00 <@Electron> I plan on following my father into the job of research scientist, where you get to sit at home and write emails in the morning, then go out and climb a mountain or play golf for the rest of the day 
03:00 <@pajh> Fantastic.
03:01 <+meng> Unfortunately there are a few painful steps before you get to that elevated stage.
03:01 <@Electron> true - like doing a PhD then travelling the world
03:01 <@Electron> I certainly wouldn't say no to a 4 year trip to Australia :)
03:03 <@beaneater> research scientist means being in a lab all day?
03:03 <+meng> depends what kind of science
03:03 <@Electron> yeah, playing with lasers and stuff
03:04 <@Electron> or high-powered computers in my case
03:05 <@Electron> wow, xemacs is *nice*
03:05 <@beaneater> what, you've just discovered xemacs?
03:06 <@Electron> I had a readme file with random symbols that were rubbish in all my text editors.  I opened the same file in xemacs and they all turned into some japenese characters or something
03:06 <@beaneater> yeah it does language stuff
03:07 <+meng> even in irc
03:07 <@Electron> but ... even mozilla displays rubbish, yet I know it can show sites with such symbols
03:07 <@pajh> uh oh. I started a Harry Potter flamewar in the other channel I'm on.
03:08 <+meng> you are in a channel with crazed Harry Potter maniacs?
03:08 <@Electron> (scifi + fantasy fiction)++
03:09 <+meng> mozilla won't autodetect charset, it'll just display in whatever encoding is active (iirc)
03:09 <@pajh> evidently. And the best bit is, everyone but one guy is on my side.
03:10 <@pajh> And I never liked that one guy anyway.
03:11 <@pajh> <CZEANO> best. spam. ever.   "90% of all sickness and disease begins in an unclean Colon!
03:11 <@pajh> ...how appropriate.
03:11 <@beaneater> meng: well, if it comes off the server, then surely it will respect the HTTP header?
03:11 <@beaneater> which inevitably will be wrong?
03:13 <@beaneater> I mean there's only so much it is possible to autodetect without metadata
03:13 <@Electron> yeah
03:14 <+meng> but header won't contain charset information
03:15 <@beaneater> it could do
03:15 <@beaneater> my headers all correctly say I use ISO-8859-1
03:16 <+meng> in the HTML, you could put something like <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=EUC-JP">
03:17 <@beaneater> Although, um, that actually disagrees to what the xml delaration says (it's XHTML); luckily I don't think I've strayed from ASCII for a while
03:17 <@beaneater> hmm, that's a point
03:17 <+meng> and yes, I guess you could use the same directive in the Content-Type in HTTP, I've never seen it happen
03:17 <@beaneater> If I'm storing old things as XML, I should really convert from 8859-1 to UTF8
03:17 <@beaneater> Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
03:18 <+meng> actually, mozilla ignores both, and uses <BODY LANG="xx">, then guesses the charser
03:18 <+meng> charset, in my experience
03:18 <@beaneater> ignores charset?
03:18 <@beaneater> hmm.
03:18 <+meng> when I tried it last, that's what it did
03:19 <+meng> (ages ago)
03:19 < Yoda> night kids
03:20 <+meng> night
03:20 -!- Yoda is now known as Yoda|sleep
03:20 <@pajh> Thank Goddess, she's gone.
03:21 <@beaneater> hmm, I wonder if XHTML sent as text/html breaks anything
03:21 <@beaneater> (on this specifically)
03:22 <+meng> are you sending it to mozilla
03:22 <@beaneater> yeah
03:22 <+meng> doubt it; mozilla seems to take any old crap you throw at it
03:22 <@beaneater> meng: well from my charset in HTTP header and stupid conflicting charset in xml declaration, mozilla takes the former correctly, but it's not an unusual one
03:23 <@beaneater> meng: ah, the thing is (and this is a big flamewar) that supposedly XHTML sent as text/html triggers "quirks" rendering modes
03:23 <@beaneater> rather than standards compliant
03:24 <+meng> Well, if you can't get the content-type right, it doesn't exactly set a standards compliant precedent
03:24 <@beaneater> and of course sending it under a proper MIME type breaks backwards compatibility for non XHTML supporting browsers, and in some cases even displays a parse tree
03:24 <+meng> if you send anything under the proper mime type, it tends to break internet explorer
03:24 <@beaneater> yup
03:24 <@beaneater> exactly
03:26 <+meng> so in the end, you end up having to test on the HTTP request header, and push out deliberately broken stuff if it's IE
03:26 <+meng> either that, or push out deliberately broken stuff all the time
03:26 <@beaneater> CSS is interesting because of all the broken half-implementations
03:27 <+meng> I still use netscape 4
03:27 <@beaneater> people use so many tricks to give different CSS to different browsers
03:27 <+meng> getting quite used to black text on black background
03:27 <@beaneater> eww
03:28 <@beaneater> so either you detect server side and push different style sheets, or exploit known bugs to work around other ones in the actual style sheet
03:29 <+meng> that's what mod_include is for, right ???
03:29 <+meng> http://webstandards.org/act/campaign/buc/  these guys are running an Anti-Netscape 4 crusade
03:30 <@pajh> And rightly so.
03:31 <+meng> Mozilla is too slow on my computer, I'll fight 'til the last stylesheet
03:31 <@pajh> Get a better computer.
03:31 <+meng> Or that
03:32  * pajh counts empty fag packets in front of his monitor.
03:32 <@beaneater> does NS4 have any partial implementation?
03:32 <@pajh> Nine. And one full.
03:33 <+meng> yes, but it's piss poo
03:33 <+meng> poor
03:33 <@beaneater> meng: then it's broken
03:33 <@beaneater> and I have no sympathy 
03:33 <@pajh> heheh. pisspoo.
03:33 <+meng> NS4 has broken css, broken java, broken you-name-it, segfaults frequently, and sucks.  But it is fast.
03:33 <@beaneater> lynx is fast
03:34 <@beaneater> 4.??
03:34 <+meng> True, but I can view more in NS4 than in Lynx (for now...)
03:34 <+meng> 4.79
03:35 <@pajh> beaneater++
03:36 <@pajh> (cocoa, not legume)++
03:38 <@Electron> links > lynx
03:38 <@beaneater> coffee bean >> cocoa bean
03:38 <@beaneater> Electron: yeah, I use links
03:39 <+meng> not a fan
03:39 <+meng> opera is ok, and less broken
03:40  * pajh doesn't care what you all say. Mozilla is the shiznit, and you can all suck it.
03:41 <+meng> emacs-W3
03:41 <@beaneater> "Let your mouth explode with a sensual shock, you will not forget the experience"
03:41 <@beaneater> meng: come on, that's so slow
03:42 <@beaneater> mozilla is much faster than emacs-w3
03:42 <+meng> it's true, the lisp effect
03:44 <+meng> maybe i will get a new computer.  i want one of those ibooks.  do you know, they come with emacs preinstalled?  how good is that
03:44 <@pajh> Do you know, I am understanding about 10% of the conversation that is scrolling past me in this window.
03:45 <@beaneater> meng: emacs or xemacs?
03:45 <+meng> The conversation is standing still, it's you that's moving
03:45 <+meng> emacs
03:45 <@beaneater> pah
03:46 <+meng> yeah, but it's a start
03:46 <@beaneater> FSF can kiss my ass, xemacs is much better.
03:46 <@beaneater> although xemacs on windows still doesn't do mule which sucks
03:47 <+meng> i thought the latest builds did?
03:47 <@beaneater> possibly
03:48 <@beaneater> mailing lists seemed to suggest semisupport
03:48 <@pajh> 5%.
03:48 <@beaneater> and I think not under native windowing, BICBW
03:48 <@pajh> And falling.
03:48 <@beaneater> pajh
03:48 <@beaneater> are you even awake pajh?
03:49 <@beaneater> pajh
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03:51 <@pajh> yes.
03:51 <+meng> windows user
03:51 <@pajh> me?
03:51 <@pajh> HOw dare you.
03:51 <+meng> no, kate
03:51 <@pajh> Indeed she is.
03:51 <@beaneater> why do only windows users ping?
03:51 <+meng> only windows users crash
03:51 <@pajh> But apparently Bill has fallen out of her favour.
03:52 <@pajh> There's hope for her yet, perhaps.
03:53 <@pajh> (Emma Peel)++
03:53 <@pajh> ^-- non-sequitur
03:55 <+meng> In Hungary, non-sequitirs are taken to joke status
03:55 <+meng> Two men are sitting in a train
03:55 <@pajh> Fish.
03:55 <+meng> Washing machine
03:55 <@pajh> Actually, meng, that's hilarious.
03:55 <+meng> see
03:56 <+meng> comes across well in the translation
03:56  * pajh just stopped laughing.
03:57 <@pajh> Because my face hurt.
03:58 <@Electron|ZzZzz> windows users probably ping because the networking in windows is shite
03:59 <@pajh> no, Windows is shite.
03:59 <@pajh> That's like saying, the chemical structure of shite is shite.
04:00 <@pajh> While technically true, it's tautological, and at the very least a statement of the obvious.
04:01 <@pajh> I made my boss promise me today never to use Word to edit a web page again.
04:01 <@pajh> I had to.
04:01 <@Electron|ZzZzz> hmm, depends
04:01 <+meng> Did he switch to Frontpage instead?
04:01 <@pajh> I almost got him to promise never to use FrontPage, but I think that's going to need more work.
04:02 <@pajh> Given that I spent all of Saturday fixing things he'd fucked up, I think it was only fair.
04:02 <+meng> Dreamweaver has a modicum of respect for not-screwing-stuff-up
04:03 <@Electron|ZzZzz> overall the chemical structure of shite is shite, just like overall windows is shite.  However, once the componenets of shite are seperated I'm sure there are some good components such as those used for fuel, just like ntfs is a good file system which I'm sure the gnu people would love to be able to use
04:04 <@pajh> Except that it comes from shite.
04:04 <+meng> but useful as a fertiliser, perhaps
04:04 <@pajh> You can fish a turd out of a water tank, but no one who kows that turd was in there will drink from it.
04:04 <@Electron|ZzZzz> yes. exactly
04:06 <@beaneater> I'm cold
04:06 <@Electron|ZzZzz> except, if the water is filtered enough people will knowingly drink it
04:06 <@beaneater> "Let your mouth explode with a sensual shock, you will not forget the experience"
04:07 <+meng> eh
04:07 <@Electron|ZzZzz> hmm, I need more skyrocket to keep me awake
04:08 <@beaneater> wassat?
04:08 <@Electron|ZzZzz> 100mg caffeine/ fl ounce
04:08 <@pajh> I want some.
04:08 <@pajh> Wheredja get it?
04:09 <@Electron|ZzZzz> http://www.thinkgeek.com/caffeine/drinks/2967/
04:09 <@Electron|ZzZzz> problem: I don't own a credit card; thinkgeek don't take switch :((
04:09 <@pajh> Bugger.
04:09 <@pajh> Likewise.
04:09 <@beaneater> Not now thanks 
04:09 <@pajh> Fool.
04:09 <@beaneater> no thanks
04:10 <+meng> strawberry or raspberry
04:14 <@pajh> um. Yes?
04:14 <+meng> No
04:15 <@pajh> No?
04:18 <+meng> Yes
04:20 -!- You're now known as meng|away
04:27  * beaneater now wants Mountain Dew
04:46 <@pajh> I want a trio of nubile nuclear physicists in suits, one blonde, one brunette, one redhead, but we can't always get what we want.
04:54 <@beaneater> there must be a song in the phrase "nubil nuclear physicist"
04:54 <@beaneater> nubile
04:55 <@beaneater> "the very model of a nubile nuclear physicist" isn't *quite* it
04:55 <@pajh> hahahahahahahah!
04:55 <@pajh> It /should/ be.
04:55 <@beaneater> bloody hard to say correctly
04:56 <@beaneater> at the correct tempo
04:56 <@pajh> So is the whole song, if you've ever tried.
04:56 <@beaneater> especially if you're me
04:56 <@beaneater> well *harder*
04:56 <@beaneater> I can't say the line from the original at about 1/2 speed 
04:56  * pajh is trying to do so right now
04:57 <@beaneater> is there an n-word for model?
04:57 <@pajh> I keep getting stuck on the line after "I'm very well acquainted too with matters mathematical"
04:58 <@pajh> About the, something something, I'm teeming with a lot of use.
04:58 <@pajh> And many cheerful facts about the square of the hypotenuse.
04:59 <@beaneater> wish mozilla did checkpointing
05:00 <@pajh> uh?
05:01 <@pajh> In fact, when I know what is meant by mammalon and ravelin
05:01 <@pajh> When I can tell at sight a Mauser rifle from a javelin
05:01 <@pajh> In fact, when I've a smattering of elemental strategy
05:01 <@pajh> (smatterings)++
05:02 <@pajh> You'll say a better major general has never satagee.
05:11  * beaneater is prompted to listen to Lehrer
05:11 <@pajh> Dammit. Now so am I.
05:39 -!- Electron|ZzZzz is now known as Electron
05:39 <@pajh> Are you awake now?
05:41 <@Electron> yep
05:41 <@Electron> never slept
05:41 <@Electron> :/
05:41 <@beaneater> no
05:42 <@beaneater> very awake
05:42 <@pajh> macarthur_parker> What you do is load up a new city in SimCity after taking a hit of acid.
05:42 <@pajh> <macarthur_parker> Ten hours later, see what kind of hell hath risen
05:42 <@beaneater> heh
05:43 <@Electron> hehe
05:43  * pajh wants to try that now. And I've never done acid and never will.
05:44 <@pajh> But /me enjoys raising hell, especially when words like `hath' are involved.
05:50 <@Electron> pouring acid into your brain?  might be fun, but ultimately a bit messy
05:51 <@pajh> Where do you read that into it? I'm curious.
05:52  * pajh is listening to Spandau Ballet's `Gold' on repeat, and trying to convince himself that he's not insane.
05:56 <@Electron> just some discussion I had
05:56 <@beaneater> 2..4..6..8..time to transubstatiate
05:57 <@Electron> instead of consuming acid you pour it into your brain and get an effect 
05:57 <@Electron> *instant effect
05:57 <@Electron> :)
05:58 <@beaneater> Lehrer's too ever-relevant, cf. "Send the Marines"
05:58 <@pajh> Note: I did `The Vatican Rag' on stage at Hull Northern Theatre.
05:59 <@beaneater> you did?
05:59 <@pajh> I did.
05:59 <@pajh> Among other things.
05:59 <@beaneater> what other things?
05:59 <@pajh> But that (and more notably "A Christmas Carol") were my inroduction to Tom Lehrer.
06:00 <@beaneater> I need to buy real Lehrer CD's
06:00 <@pajh> Other things such as Rocky, Chess, Assassins, and Accidental Death of an Anarcxhist.
06:01 <@pajh> The only Lehrer CDs available is the GBP 30+ box set.
06:01 <@pajh> I can provide you with audio cassette, if required.,
06:01 <@beaneater> you can? woo
06:01 <@beaneater> you have it in cassette form?
06:02 <@beaneater> actually I'm not entirely sure I have the facility to play such; I have not attempted to see if the hifi on my floor works at all
06:02 <@beaneater> due to the need to find space and more 4ways
06:05 <@pajh> I also have a wlakman.
06:05 <@pajh> or even a walkman.,
06:08 <@Electron> are cassettes still being made?
06:08 <@pajh> not to my knowledge.
06:08 <@Electron> they've gone the way of the LP?
06:14 <@pajh> More or less.
06:19  * pajh was about to start a war-related flamewar in the other window.
06:19 <@pajh> It's not worth it.
06:19 <@beaneater> don't
06:19 <@pajh> Now I just need to drink some more.
06:19 <@pajh> Fuck.
06:19 <@beaneater> Not right now thanks.
06:20 <@pajh> Fuck, fuck, fuck.
06:20 <@pajh> Americans.
06:20 <@beaneater> only if they're cute.
06:20 <@pajh> That's not fair. Just one American.
06:20 <@beaneater> Only one American is cute?
06:21 <@pajh> Every other American I've ever met has been more or less sane.
06:21 <@pajh> But, well, fuck.
06:21 <@pajh> People are dying. For no good reason.
06:21 <@pajh> This annoys me.,
06:21 <@beaneater> very breifly, where are you on the war, iwthout going inot a discussion?
06:22 <@beaneater> people shouldn't be allowed to type while I'm typing
06:22 <@beaneater> tyoping
06:22 <@pajh> I'm anti, and I have never in my life been anti-war before.
06:22 <@pajh> I am in favour of regime change, albeit more gently.
06:22 <@Electron> me too
06:23 <@Electron> especially when we're slaughtering our own people
06:23 <@beaneater> it's funny, regime change used to mean CIA-funded terrorism
06:23 <@pajh> I am more concerned about the complete lack of regard for democracy and/or NATO/UN that is taking place in this country.
06:23 <@beaneater> but now it's like all open and something to be proud of
06:24 <@Electron> I'm not sure I like the sound of the New World Order though
06:24 <@Electron> sounds very sci-fi
06:24 <@beaneater> it all just makes you wonder who's next?
06:24 <@beaneater> N Korea's too dangerous
06:24 <@pajh> No, let me be fair. I am morally in favour of regime change. Realistically I am in favour of lettign the Iraqis impplement their own fucking regime change if they want it. It has fuck-all to do with me.
06:26 <@pajh> I think that my government should be doing rather more towards finding ways to pay for my education that blowing the shit out of countries I'll never visit.
06:26 <@pajh> s/that/than/ .
06:26 <@beaneater> I don't see Iraq as increasing long-term world stability
06:28 <@pajh> I think that my government, who's elction manifesto was, and I quote: "Education, education, education", should get the fuck out of Iraq and start spending money on preventing the entire next generation of Britons from being fuckwits.
06:28 <@pajh> s/who's/whose/.
06:28 <@pajh> Ech.
06:28 <@beaneater> heh, well done
06:29 <@pajh> Enough has already been spent on this war (according to figures I just made up) to inspire everyone born in a given year to read Roald Dahl.
06:29 <@beaneater> inspire at gunpoint
06:30 <@pajh> That's not funny.
06:30 <@pajh> Britain may suck at this point, but that's not the way we do things.
06:30 <@beaneater> Got to support our manufacturing industry now
06:30 <@beaneater> No, thankfully internally we're fairly sane
06:30 <@beaneater> slightly unlike the US
06:30 <@pajh> Name anything we make.
06:31 <@beaneater> We do export arms
06:31 <@beaneater> with generous taxpayer subsidy
06:33 <@pajh> As you know, I'm something of a megalomaniac. I genuinely believe that the world should revolve around me.
06:33 <@beaneater> heh.
06:33 <@pajh> Because, and I want to make this perfectly clear,
06:33 <@pajh> I believe that a world that revolved around me would be more fair and better for the average citizen thereof.
06:35 <@pajh> So it deeply offends me that my elcected government is going to war over a regoin I don't care about, that is not going to benefit me or my colleagues in any way, and is nonetheless killing a lot of innocent people.
06:36 <@pajh> As a megalomaniac, I have made a habit of not caring about the so-called innocenty people.
06:37 <@pajh> But in this caseI am forced to rely on those residual morals that I have.
06:37 <@beaneater> It pisses me off more that they have to lie about it, and worse are so rude as to invalidate conflicting opinions through a cynical childish characterisation of "evil"
06:38 <@beaneater> I wish I could recall whose essay it was, but there was a good piece about rude argument, that is refusing to participate in a discussion and claiming to be right
06:39 <@beaneater> In the way that many religious folks do
06:39 <@pajh> indeed.
06:41 <@beaneater> people have the right to not argue with me, but if so they don't have the right to assert the truth of their convictions in my vicinity
06:42 <@pajh> your pint being?
06:42 <@pajh> point.
06:42 <@beaneater> 80 shilling thanks
06:42 <@beaneater> I need a point?
06:43 <@pajh> Yes, you do.
06:46 <@pajh> That shut you up, didn't it.
06:47 <@pajh> I had a point, but I forgot what it was, and had to delete the whole line.
06:54 <@pajh> That's what should happen when one lacks a point.
06:54 <@beaneater> Oh screw you.
06:55 <@beaneater> In the nicest possible way, of course.
06:55 <@beaneater> (debate on the nicest possible way not included in the price)
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13:45 -!- Yoda changed the topic of #compsoc to: Anyone up for a drink tonight?
14:02 -!- You're now known as meng
14:03 <+meng> oi
14:08  * meng waves
14:13 < Yoda> oi
14:13  * Yoda waves back
14:13 <+meng> did someone say drink
14:13 < Yoda> i did
14:14 < Yoda> you up for it?
14:14 <+meng> let me ... check my diary
14:14  * Yoda giggles
14:14 < Yoda> yeah sure, me too
14:15 <+meng> well then
14:16 < Yoda> have got a meeting tonight, so drinks after - will get back around 9.30-10pm-ish
14:16 < Yoda> then?
14:16 < Yoda> 10 at the Blind Poet?
14:16 <+meng> is this your new 'haunt'
14:16 < Yoda> no
14:17 < Yoda> decide ... cos i have to go just now to butter up my DOS for a reference
14:17 < Yoda> and I'm late already
14:17 < Yoda> decide and let me know
14:17 <+meng> ok yes
14:17 < Yoda> cya then
14:18 <+meng> bye
14:18 < Yoda> bye for now
14:18 < Yoda> wish me luck!
14:19 <+meng> 'break a leg'
14:20 -!- meng changed the topic of #compsoc to: compsoc meet: 10pm at the Blind Poet
14:20 < Yoda> don't you dare say that
14:20 < Yoda> bad luck omen
14:20 <+meng> its supposed to be a good luck gesture
14:20 <+meng> i thought
14:20 < Yoda> last time someone said that to me, i nearly did break a leg
14:20 <+meng> don't break a leg, then
14:20 < Yoda> got knocked over by a car
14:20 < Yoda> nm
14:21 < Yoda> changed my mind
14:21 < Yoda> 10pm at the Crags
14:21 < Yoda> pool + fun and games
14:21 < Yoda> hows that?
14:21 <+meng> beat you at chess
14:21 <+meng> proper this time
14:21 -!- meng changed the topic of #compsoc to: compsoc meet: 10pm at the Crags
14:21 < Yoda> lol
14:21 < Yoda> in your DREAMS
14:22 < Yoda> cya
14:22 <+meng> bye now
15:19 < Yoda> am back
15:19 < Yoda> anyone there?
15:31 <+meng> no
15:43 <@pajh> drink? pub? I'm in.
15:44 <@tef> heh
15:44 <@tef> lo
15:45 <@tef> know when alex is coming back as i will have to find my gasmask
15:45 <@pajh> why will you have to do so?
15:45 <@pajh> He'll be back in time fo rthe start of term, not much before
15:45 <@tef> sars
15:45 <@pajh> ah. of course.
15:45 <@tef> heheh
15:50 <@pajh> <megan_of_wutai> automated insulting
15:50 <@pajh> <megan_of_wutai> for the terminally unoriginal
15:51 <@pajh> Heed, Kate.
15:51 < Yoda> what?
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16:14 <+meng> hi kate
16:15 <+meng> what did you get
16:15 < Yoda> i was below your flat just now
16:15 < Yoda> watching and stalking
16:15 <+meng> at bargain store
16:15 < Yoda> damn, how did you know?
16:15 <+meng> i see everything
16:15 <+meng> i know everything
16:15 < Yoda> tippex ... and stamps
16:15 <+meng> mwahahaha
16:15 < Yoda> still filling in those damn application forms
16:16 < Yoda> i hate you, was scheming up a scam to scare you as well
16:16 < Yoda> didn't know you were in
16:16 <+meng> just as well i don't have a webcam that takes pictures every 30 seconds
16:17 < Yoda> that would make my job a lot easier
16:17 <+meng> instead, you'll have to look through my monitor
16:18 < Yoda> yeah well
16:18 < Yoda> i have a lot more tricks up my sleeves
16:18 <+meng> not as many as i do
16:18 < Yoda> one day, when you least expect it ...
16:18 < Yoda> whack!
16:19 <+meng> what, a wet fish appears out of nowhere
16:19 < Yoda> you read my mind!
16:19 <+meng> see above
16:19 < Yoda> ?
16:19 <+meng> i see everything
16:19 <+meng> i know everything
16:20 < Yoda> alright then, here's another test
16:20 < Yoda> what colour is my stapler
16:21 < Yoda> ?
16:21 < Yoda> ha]
16:21 < Yoda> see, you nothing nothing
16:21 <+meng> my sources are working on it already
16:21 < Yoda> know nothing
16:21 <+meng> you know nothing of what i know
16:22 < Yoda> the deeper question is, do i want to?
16:22 <+meng> probably not
16:22 <+meng> but so what?
16:23 < Yoda> you have nothing of worth
16:23 < Yoda> that's why i don't need to find out
16:23 < Electron> haha, I just r00t3d one of the script kiddie's b0x3s :D
16:23 <+meng> how do you know i have nothing of worth, if you haven't found out what i have?
16:24 < Yoda> i'm a great judge of character
16:24 <+meng> then you don't know, you're making an assumption
16:25 < Yoda> no i'm not
16:25 < Yoda> if you're not interesting, then you have nothing i need to know about
16:25 < Yoda> good chat don't come from talking to boring ppl
16:25 <+meng> miaow
16:26  * Yoda puts saucer of milk in the corner for Michael
16:26 <+meng> never a saucer again !
16:26 < Yoda> don't drink it all at once!
16:26 < Yoda> what a random night that was!
16:27 < Yoda> see, that's good chat
16:27 < Yoda> and i create good chat, am the master
16:27 <+meng> riight
16:28 < Yoda> stop distracting me! do you know how much work i have to do?
16:28 < Yoda> i have a meeting in 2 hours
16:28 < Yoda> and have done no prep for it
16:28 < Electron> I've only just got up :(
16:28 < Electron> really must sort my sleeping pattern out
16:29 < Yoda> Electron: have you got your CS mark yet?
16:29 < Electron> Yoda: no, I suppose I really should go see about it some time - but I know it'll be like 10%
16:30 < Yoda> well, i kinda glanced at it ...
16:30 < Yoda> if you want to know ...
16:30 < Electron> grrr
16:30 < Electron> yes Kate?
16:30 < Yoda> not intentionally
16:30 < Yoda> of course
16:30 <+meng> but you just couldn't help but take mental note
16:31 < Electron> go on, what is it?!
16:31 < Yoda> hold on, tell you in private
16:31 < Electron> good idea
16:33 < Yoda> you would do the same thing Michael, lets admit it
16:33 <+meng> fair enough
16:34 < Electron> it's not that bad a mark anyway
16:34 < Yoda> yeah, its cool
16:34 < Electron> consiering I suck at logic
16:35 < Yoda> i think i'll get a crap mark for the 2nd prac
16:35 < Electron> did someone say pub tonight? :)
16:35 < Yoda> i just love the java security package
16:35 < Yoda> so easy to implement
16:35 < Yoda> no wonder no one ever f***ing bothers
16:36 < Yoda> 10 at Crags
16:36 < Electron> k
16:37 <+meng> for fun and games
16:37 < Electron> and NO talk of uni or work!
16:37 < Electron> talk of uni is forbidden
16:37 < Yoda> shit, where the hell would i find my SCOTVEC number?
16:38 <+meng> isn't it the same as your SCE exam number
16:38 < Yoda> shit, that's in the storeroom
16:38 < Yoda> underneath the stamp collection
16:39 < Yoda> that's going to be fun to dig out]
16:39 <+meng> maybe you can ring SQA and ask them
16:51 < Yoda> i've even found my "skill seekers" card and still can't find this stupid number!
16:52 <+meng> on the certificate
17:03 < Yoda> still cant find it ...but found my "The Usborne Guide to Playing Chess" from my school days
17:03 < Yoda> ha, you will be beaten
17:05 <+meng> hey i had that book too
17:07 < Yoda> do u still have it?
17:09 <+meng> dont think so
17:09 <+meng> blue colour, right
17:09 < Yoda> are the banks shut now?
17:10 <+meng> i think so
17:10 < Yoda> damn! brb
17:10 -!- Yoda is now known as Yoda|away
17:23 <@pajh> Would Be An Excellent Name For A Rock Band #5574: `Douglas Rain and the Pod Bay Doors'.
17:25 <@beaneater> oh, morning
17:27 -!- Yoda|away is now known as Yoda
17:30 <@tef> heh
17:30 <@tef> yes it would
17:31  * pajh is cooking steak.
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17:56 < Electron> you like your dcs username, don't you Kate :)
17:57 < Klxh> ?
17:57 < Klxh> oh
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17:57 <@pajh> like dcs username she does not.
18:01 < Yoda> lol, in Boston Public - "in the wizard of oz, all the munchkins when all have orgies"
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18:08 < Electron> bah, Windows user
18:09 <+meng> you timed out too earlier Bruce
18:09 <+meng> what's your excuse
18:10 < Electron> ah
18:10 < Electron> I haxx0r3d someone's b0x, they weren't pleased so they kicked me
18:11 <+meng> you $kr1p+ k!Dd13
18:12 < Electron> 'fraid so
18:12 < Electron> the good ol' ptrace-kmod.c trick
18:13 < Electron> just not a good idea to use it someone when that someone is providing you with a shell account and tunnel service
18:13 < Electron> +on
18:13 <+meng> whoops
18:13 < Electron> hehe
18:14 <@tef> heheheheh
18:15 <@pajh> perhaps not.
18:17 < Electron> bah, fixed now :(
18:17  * Electron goes back to packetstorm.linuxsecurity
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18:18 <+meng> hmf, it is supposed to be fixed in 2.4.20, right
18:18 <+meng> but it works on my machine
18:19 < Yoda> ?
18:19 < Electron> nope
18:19 < Electron> 2.4.21
18:20 < Electron> maybe 2.2.21, 2.2.20 is vulnerable
18:20 < Electron> Yoda: not l33t enough are you
18:25 <+meng> works on 2.2.18, bah.  maybe time to move the rest to openbsd?
18:26 < Electron> the machine I rooted was 2.2.20
18:31 < Yoda> alright kids, i'm off
18:31 < Yoda> see you guys at the crags then
18:31 <+meng> see you then
18:32 -!- Yoda is now known as Yoda|meeting
18:41 <@pajh> 10 o clock's a bit late. Some of us have to work tomorrow.
18:46 <+meng> I think some of us are in nocturnal mode, where 10pm is morning
18:46 <@pajh> owwwwww.
18:53 < Electron> it's only just still morning, yes
18:53 <+meng> What time did you get up Bruce
18:54 < Electron> 4pm
18:54 <@pajh> actually, so did I.
18:55 <+meng> so 10pm's just in time for a liquid lunch
18:56 <@pajh> but I've just had a fillet steak breakfast.
18:56 <+meng> alright for some!
18:57 <@pajh> I could get used to this.
18:57 <@pajh> Dis is livin!
18:57 <+meng> The professional life?
18:58 <@pajh> Having money.
18:59 <+meng> Aspire to be a professional geek; that way, you can have money, AND get up at 4pm
18:59 <@pajh> That's my long term plan.
18:59 -!- Yoda|meeting [Yoda@81.6.232.149] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
18:59 <@pajh> Want to set up a company with me?
18:59 <@pajh> No clue what it would do.
19:00 <+meng> The mission of a great corporation: to take over the world
19:01 <@pajh> Apocalypse Laboratories, Inc: Vision Statement---"We will have all the money in the world while everyone else dies in the gutter wishing they were us".
19:02 <+meng> Sounds like a plan.
19:27  * beaneater got up at 5.20
19:27 <@beaneater> You should all know this.
19:27 <@beaneater> We now return you to your regular service.
19:30 <@pajh> I got the Avengers movie stuck in the DVD player.
19:30 <@pajh> Gary is going to kill me.
20:00 <+meng> FOOBAR
20:00 <@pajh> no colour.
20:01 <+meng> 10
20:01 <+meng>  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
20:01 <+meng> why no colour?
20:04 <@pajh> colour bad.
20:04 <+meng> Linux i586
20:05 <+meng> colour  good
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20:22 < Electron> lo Leynos 
20:23 < Leynos> Hi
20:23 < Electron> how goes it?
20:23 <+meng> what is it with this server and broken dns
20:23 < Electron> you coming to the 'compsoc meet' tonight?
20:23 < Electron> dunno - ask kev
20:24 < Electron> he just intalled a new ircd
20:24 < Leynos> Compsoc meet?  At night?
20:24 <+meng> to night
20:24 < Electron>  /topic :)
20:24 <+meng> a bit impromptu
20:25 < Electron> not quite as impromptu as the gamesoc meet on thursday though
20:25 < Electron> anyway, nothing gets done if people try and plan stuff
20:27 <+meng> True, esp round 'ere
20:39  * meng f
20:40 <@beaneater> irc gets things done
20:40 <@beaneater> I guess I'll pop along and say hi
20:43 < Electron> not if that thing happens to be work :/
20:44 <@beaneater> heh
20:44 <@beaneater> too true
20:44 < Leynos> hi
20:44 < Leynos> IRC saves the world
20:44 <+meng> how?
20:45 < Leynos> with a big stick and some duct tape.  How else?
20:45 <+meng> duct or duck tape
20:46 <+meng> elephant tape
20:48 <@pajh> you can't fight evil with a macaroni duck!
20:49 <+meng> pasta shells rain on the axis of evil
21:42 <+meng> WTF has happened to the Maplin web page?
21:42 <+meng> Welcome to Maplin Electronics no frame index (currently in development)
21:42 <+meng> View our no frames menu system 
21:42 <+meng> click, and it loops round back to the same page within a second
21:44 <+meng> Hmf, works fine in Mozilla
21:45 <@beaneater> bugger
21:45 <@beaneater> people going to the wossname at 10?
21:45 <+meng> yeah
21:45 < Leynos> ?
21:45 <@beaneater> be there long? I might have to be late
21:45 < Leynos> WHat is it?
21:45 <@beaneater> /topic
21:46 < Leynos> yeah, but what is it?
21:46 <@beaneater> eh?
21:46 <+meng> just a meet, with beer and chat
21:46 < Leynos> k
21:46 < Leynos> I blame the parents
21:49 <+meng> anyone else coming?  hello?
21:52  * meng knocks
21:53  * Leynos falls asleep at the keyboardddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd
21:56 -!- Leynos [leynos@194.222.8.242] has quit [Quit: Off to dreams of Laserdiscs and Neo-Geos (and Xboxes)]
21:58 <+meng> well, I am
21:58 -!- You're now known as meng|away
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00:46  * beaneater returns
00:46  * pajh ruturns
00:47  * pajh can't spell
00:47 -!- beaneater changed the topic of #compsoc to: compsoc meet: still at Drouthy Neebors 
00:47 <@beaneater> hmm
00:47 <@beaneater> next week will be term time
00:47 <@pajh> was there any consensus on next week?
00:47 <@beaneater> I think it was "Oh, we're meeting next week? Okay"
00:47 <@beaneater> The benefits of assertiveness :)
00:48 <@beaneater> but I say term time, there should really be Wednesday meetings
00:48 <@beaneater> or at least a decision on that; I mean it might be useful to announce
00:48 <@pajh> Wednesday meetings have never offically stopped.
00:49 <@beaneater> uh
00:49 <@beaneater> they stop in non term time
00:49 <@beaneater> I thought
00:49 <@pajh> No they don't.
00:49 <@pajh> It's just that nobody's here.
00:50 <@beaneater> Hmm
00:50 <@beaneater> *sceptical*
00:54 -!- beaneater changed the topic of #compsoc to: compsoc meet: still at Drouthy Neebors | possible repetition next Tuesday evening
00:56  * beaneater is buying RAM
00:56 <@beaneater> this is harder than I imagined
00:57 <@pajh> Goto Ideal.
00:57  * pajh trying to remember where I bought mine.
00:57 <@beaneater> that involves a walk
00:58 <@beaneater> I was just going to net order it
00:58 <@pajh> Heaven forfend.
00:58 <@beaneater> but now I find myself reading about CAS latency for SDRAM 
00:58 <@beaneater> anyway, are they cheap?
00:59 <@tef> i have the happy dance song. i am happy. and i am dancing
00:59 <@beaneater> what is the happy dance song?
00:59 <@tef> fantastic plastic machine - s'il vous plait
00:59 <@tef> from spaced.
01:07 <@beaneater> ooh, ebuyer doing free shipping
01:08 <@pajh> ebuyer. I think that's where I got mine.
01:09  * beaneater tries not to buy random other stuff
01:10  * Electron is awaiting delivery from Dell of laptop
01:10  * Electron will probably still be awaiting this time next week :(
01:11 <@beaneater> I mean this machine wouldn't say no to another 256MB RAM
01:21 <@pajh> "[I] have a nice voice", according to hot geek chix0r.
01:23 <@beaneater> you have a nice voice on IRC?
01:23 <@beaneater> ;)
01:23 <@beaneater> I'm taller in real life apparently
01:24 <@pajh> I have a nice voice over 7kHz copper.
01:25 <@pajh> See? everything's an abstraction.
01:25 <@pajh> Wonder what my voice is like IRL.
01:49 <@tef> oh and paul.
01:49 <@tef> i pulled a redhead :)
01:50 <@pajh> And now you DIE
01:51 <@tef> and now i go to bed
01:55 <@pajh> After death.
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02:11 < Leynos> Woah.  You got ops in here now
02:12 < Leynos> Can I get a +v?
02:13 -!- mode/#compsoc [+v Leynos] by pajh
02:13 <@pajh> Welcome to the club.
02:14 <+Leynos> Thanks
02:14 <+Leynos> I think the lack of integration between the various Amazon sites kind of sucks
02:17 <+Leynos> "Date de livraison estimée"  Dammit, I can't read French
02:18 <@pajh> Estimated date of... something to do with books.
02:18 <+Leynos> lol
02:20 <+Leynos> What I want to know is, why the fsck can't amazon.co.uk tell me that
02:49 <@beaneater> Leynos: whyfore you want +v?
02:50 <+Leynos> Cos it makes me feel secure
02:50 <@beaneater> Can't see us going +m
02:51 <+Leynos> Do you know how much Royal Mail charges as a handling fee on stuff that goes through customs?
02:51 <@beaneater> too much?
02:51 <+Leynos> Can't be worse than Parcel Force
02:52 <@beaneater> parcel farce
02:52 <+Leynos> yeah
02:52 <+Leynos> They charged 13 bloody quid as a handling fee :(
02:53 <@pajh> No handling fee that I know of. Bu obviously more expensive anyway.
02:54 <@pajh> Cos its overseas, and stuff.
02:54 <+Leynos> If I'm just gonna be hit for VAT and duty, then that's not so bad.  But if they're going to add another 5 quid on top of that...
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03:01 -!- Topic for #compsoc: compsoc meet: still at Drouthy Neebors | possible repetition next Tuesday evening
03:01 -!- Topic set by beaneater!~nicholaw@beaneater.demon.co.uk [Tue Apr  8 00:54:16 2003]
03:01 [Users #compsoc]
03:01 [@beaneater] [@tef   ] [ Duro    ] [ meng|away] 
03:01 [@pajh     ] [+Leynos] [ Electron] 
03:01 -!- Irssi: #compsoc: Total of 7 nicks [3 ops, 0 halfops, 1 voices, 3 normal]
03:01 -!- Channel #compsoc created Sat Apr  5 00:37:22 2003
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05:44 -!- beaneater changed the topic of #compsoc to: possible repetition (repetitive?) compsoc meet next Tuesday evening 
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07:00 <@beaneater> |right|
07:00 <@beaneater> in a meeting rite now!!1!
07:00 <@beaneater> ?
07:00 -!- Yoda|meeting is now known as Yoda|sleep
07:01 < Yoda|sleep> no, sleeping right ...
07:01 < Yoda|sleep> now]
07:01 <@beaneater> heh.
07:01  * beaneater multiplies Yoda|sleep with a random large prime
07:02 < Yoda|sleep> ?
07:02 < Electron> bah, 7am already :/
07:02 <@beaneater> Yoda|sleep: reading crypto stuff
07:02 < Yoda|sleep> i am going to bed now
07:02 < Electron> hehe
07:02 <@beaneater> interesting actually, I wish we had a crypto course instead of/in addition to CS
07:02 < Yoda|sleep> so see you in the morning ...
07:02 <@beaneater> good night.
07:03 <@beaneater> ooh dawn
07:04 < Electron> haha, and so the night claims another victim
07:04  * meng|away slaps Yoda around a bit with a wet fish
07:07 -!- You're now known as meng
07:08 < Electron> Yoda|sleep: you've got 2 hours until you've got to be in the library.  Remember what I said in the pub about 2 hours? :)
07:08 < meng> who needs sleep
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15:03 -!- Yoda|Work changed the topic of #compsoc to: possible repetition (repetitive?) compsoc meet next Tuesday evening | Wednesday night instead?  
15:40 <@beaneater> hmm
17:14 < Yoda|Work> got an exam on wednesday
17:15 <@beaneater> ouch
17:15 < Yoda|Work> so cant be tuesday
17:15 < Yoda|Work> how about wednesday night/afternoon?
17:15 -!- Yoda|Work is now known as Yoda|home
17:16 <@beaneater> fair enough
17:16 <@beaneater> nays?
17:16 < Yoda|home> ?
17:18 <@beaneater> nay, as opposed to yea.
17:18 <@beaneater> of course "Nos to the left, Ayes to the right" is funnier
18:04 -!- Yoda|home changed the topic of #compsoc to: possible repetition (repetitive?) compsoc meet next Wednesday night
18:06 < Yoda|home> test
18:07 -!- Yoda|home is now known as Yoda|uni
18:08 < Electron> failed
18:09 < Yoda|uni> just testing out this feature in mIRC where it timestamps all events
18:10 < Electron> uni, now?
18:11 < Yoda|uni> am just leaving to go to AT
18:11 < Yoda|uni> its really quiet
18:11 < Yoda|uni> makes up for lack of opening hours for the library
18:11 < Electron> yeah
18:14 < Electron> is the greenfield still 24h?
18:14 < Yoda|uni> not during vacation
18:14 < Yoda|uni> i don't think ...
18:14 < Yoda|uni> not sure
18:14 < Electron> k
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22:11 < meng> FH is 24h
22:15 < Yoda> i dont think us lowly CS students can get acces to FH can we?
22:16 < Electron> if access to buildings is handled as incompetantly as access to computers, I should still have access from my AI days
22:22 <@beaneater> it isn't
22:22 <@beaneater> as incompetent
22:22 <@beaneater> *as*
22:36 <@pajh> I have access to FH, and I'm not even a student.
22:36 < Electron> didn't think so
22:36 <@pajh> Alex has access.
22:37 < Electron> isn't Alex doing AI?
22:37 <@pajh> I think all third years have access, but I may be worng [sic].
22:38 < Electron> only problem with FH is it's a looong way from where I live
22:38 <@pajh> But it has GIANT ROBOTS
22:38 < Electron> it's got that robotics lab, doesn't it?
22:39 < Electron> wow last time I was in FH was in AIsoc in 1st year
22:40 <@pajh> The robot lab is being moved to JCMB
22:40 < Electron> any idea where informatics is being moved to in a few years? isn't there a plan to have a new building somewhere?
22:42 <@beaneater> the moon
22:42 <@pajh> I've heard Chrichton Street.
22:42 <@beaneater> true story
22:44 < Electron> er isn't Crichton St just AT?
22:45 < Electron> I heard there were plans to move it way out of town, where new halls are being built and the medics are already sited there
22:45 <@pajh> note the phrase "new building".
22:47 < Yoda> Electron: You mean Little France?
22:48 < Electron> Yoda: no, *right* out of town afaik
22:48 < Electron> like they're clearing farmland and forest and stuff for it
22:49 < Yoda> they've built the new hospital and medic school at Little France
22:49 <@pajh> 1. Where are they getting the money?
22:49 < Yoda> but i heard it was in town that the new building is going to be
22:49 < Yoda> insurance
22:49 < Electron> cool
22:49 <@pajh> 2. Isn't right out of town a stupid fucking idea?
22:49 < Electron> in town == good
22:49 < Yoda> damn right
22:50 <@pajh> 3. Destruction of vital natural reasources and stuff.
22:50 < Yoda> i think its definitely in town
22:50 < Electron> where though?  there's no spare either at KB or GS for a brand new building
22:51 < Yoda> the university has land everywhere
22:51 < Yoda> they even have a boat house out in Meggetland
22:51 < Yoda> you know, by Napier Uni
22:52 < Yoda> you'll be surprised what they can clear
22:52 <@pajh> They should build a vast Informatics complex on the site of SB
22:52 <@pajh> With a floor for top-scret research
22:52 <@pajh> And a Penthouse suite from which I can control the world
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22:53 <@pajh> and GIANT ROBOTS again
22:53 < Leynos> where?
22:53 <@beaneater> behind you
22:53 < Leynos> Giant Robots r0x0rz
22:54 < Leynos> oh
22:54 < Leynos> No, that's just my Steel Battalion joystick
23:19 <@pajh> and vast subterranean catacombs. We need those too.
23:20 < Leynos> I'm sure I used to have one of those.  Or was it the airing cupboard
23:24 <@pajh> We need a Beowulf cluster of Cray-XMPs and giant backprojection screens for vidphone conversations with evil minions
23:25 <@pajh> and some lecture theatres and things too.
23:27 <@pajh> and henchmen. We need henchmen.
23:31 < Electron> hmm, you seen http://www.ubergeek.tv/switchlinux ?
23:36 <@pajh> RPMs? That /is/ evil.
23:36 <@pajh> I have to watch that again.
23:36 < Electron> :)
23:38 <@pajh> (gorgeous fembots with a penchant for evil)++
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00:03 < Yoda> anyone got the second ep of Animatrix?
00:07 <@pajh> No, but I have goregous fembots with a penchant for evil.
00:07 <@pajh> As an aside, "Gorgeous Fembots With a Penchant for Evil" wbaxnfarb.
00:13 < Yoda> what are you ranting on about?
00:13 < Yoda> too much Austin Powers?
00:15 <@pajh> <Electron> hmm, you seen http://www.ubergeek.tv/switchlinux ?
00:16 < Leynos> Dead bodies everywhere
00:18 <@pajh> ?
00:20 < Leynos> Did you see Channel 4 news this evening (not that I normally watch TV)?  There was a camera man following Iraqi soldiers around Baghdad while they were fighting with Americans.  It was quite weird
00:23  * beaneater is spending ages sorting out his email...
00:23 <@beaneater> my inbox has now gone below 1000
00:23 < Leynos> yay
00:24 <@beaneater> really bloody notice that order of magnitude with mutt+maildir
00:24 < Leynos> Mine must have 1000s of messages in it, but a while ago, I managed to clear out all the unread messages, so now I have zero unread messages, and I keep it that way
00:25 <@beaneater> don't think it makes a difference
00:26 <@beaneater> it's just *slow*
00:26 <@beaneater> I have a copy of mutt running permenantly because the startup time is too long to endure each day
00:26 < Leynos> k.  This is with Apple Mail.app, and it doesn't seem to take much of a speed hit
00:27 <@beaneater> well if I had wossname, the usual single file format, it would be much faster, but maildir has other benefits
00:28 < Leynos> fscking MP3 player keeps picking good songs and makes me stay listening to it
00:29 <@beaneater> hee
00:36  * Leynos is listening to Pulp - Cocaine Socialism 5:22@192kbps from playlist Library
00:41 < Leynos> Off I go now
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00:54 < Electron> mutt+mbox takes about 4 seconds to sort almost 6000 messages
00:56 < meng> you want to be using vm
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00:59 < meng|away> i think all third years have card cleared for fh after the fire
00:59 < meng|away> the informatics building was supposed to be where the NCP car park is opposite appleton tower
01:00 < meng|away> and paul, it'll never happen
01:00 < meng|away> that's my buffered chat for this evening
01:00 < meng|away> thank you all and good night
01:03 <@pajh> ye of little faith.
02:07 <@beaneater> Electron: yeah, mbox is faster than Maildir, but I had my reasons
02:07 <@beaneater> I should really find and apply the Maildir caching patches
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02:08 <@beaneater> but not having so many thousands of messages works also
02:08 < Electron> I like the simplicity of mbox, what's so good about maildir?
02:09 <@beaneater> started using it because I was also serving it up over IMAP
02:12 < Electron> oic, it stores each message as a different file
02:13 <@beaneater> yeah
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02:36 < Yoda|sleep> night kids