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15:43 < Electron> lo
15:43 < Electron> meng: did I hear you saying something at the pub about tweed jackets?
15:44 < meng> i might have mentioned same
15:44 < meng> dare i ask why
15:45 < Electron> heh - well my parents just visited, my dad was wearing his tweed jacket, apparently he used to wear one in his PhD days which even had the regulatory elbow patches :D
15:45 < meng> lol
15:45 < meng> see ! it's true !
15:45 < Electron> it is indeed
15:56 <@beaneater> yeah well, 
15:56 <@beaneater> tweed is no longer for postgrads I think, but once you start to lecture...
16:00 <@pajh> You know, once upon a time I was an official member of the Marvel Comics (R) British Avengers (TM)
16:00 <@pajh> And my character was the tweedy proofessor type
16:00 <@pajh> I insisted on a lycra suit with tweed patches.
16:01 < Electron> heh
16:04 -!- You're now known as meng|away
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17:45 < Electron> mech?
17:50 <@beaneater> fe?
17:50 < Electron> what department is mech.ed.ac.uk is what I meant
17:50 < Electron> :)
17:55 < meng> hmm
17:56 < meng> the routing was supposed to come out the other interface
17:57 < meng> mech = mechanical engineering
17:57 < Electron> that's what I thought - except, do you do mechanical engineering?
18:02 < meng> no. but i look after a computer there
18:04 < meng> hey! where'd my routing table go!
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--- Log opened Wed Apr 09 18:35:55 2003
21:42 <@pajh> It's oh so quiet, hsssh, hsssh, It's oh so still.
21:43 <@pajh> It's oh so quiet, hsssh, hsssh, And so peaceful until....
21:44 <@pajh> *waits*
21:44 < meng> leave your chat at the door
21:44 <@pajh> But it'll scratch and meow until I let it in
21:44 <@pajh> Can I leave my chien at the door instead?
21:44 < meng> then, install a chat-flap
21:45 <@pajh> as invented by Isaac Newton.
21:46 <@pajh> True story.
21:53 -!- Yoda|uni [Yoda@81.6.232.149] has joined #compsoc
21:53 -!- Yoda|uni is now known as Yoda
21:55  * pajh slaps Yoda around a bit with his collection of roleplaying books
21:56 < Yoda> hey
21:56 < Yoda> dont do that
21:56 < Yoda> i have a present for you
21:56 < Yoda> brought it today, when i saw it, i thought you'd love it
21:57 < Yoda> so don't slap me!
21:57 < Yoda> or else the trout comes out!
21:57 <@pajh> uh oh.
21:58 < Yoda> the trout or the present?
21:58 <@pajh> either? both?
21:58 <@pajh> mainly the trout.
21:58 < Yoda> ok, cos the present's great
21:58 < Yoda> is that the right grammar?
21:59 < Yoda> is it present's or presents? for concatenating the "is"
21:59 <@pajh> No capitalisation, unnecessary abbreviation, but otherwise yes.
22:00 < Yoda> so, what is the chat?
22:01 <@pajh> none.
22:03 < Yoda> yah! Sex and the City is on tonight!
22:04 <@pajh> and I have no TV and the Avengers movie is still stuck in the DVD player.
22:06 < Yoda> if i only had a webcam ...
22:07 < Electron> I must get my tv-over-the-network project going again
22:08 < Yoda> do you have a tv? or do you want ppl to stream it over for you?
22:08 < Yoda> cos it sounds like a good idea
22:08 < Electron> I've got a tv card which only works in Windows
22:08 < Electron> :/
22:08 < Yoda> :(
22:09 < Yoda> do u only run linux now? or do u dual boot?
22:09 < Electron> I started writing a program to stream the video from linux across the network, but cs4 and ibm got in the way
22:09 < Yoda> o
22:09 < meng> I have a tv card, but it's european and no sound
22:09 < Electron> I only run FreeBSD just now, but getting a new laptop tomorrow (I hope) whicxh will dual-boot WinXP and {Linux|FreeBSD}
22:09 < Yoda> i have one of those usb tv things
22:10 < Yoda> cool
22:10 < Yoda> new laptop!
22:10 < Yoda> wicked!
22:10 < meng> awesome
22:10 < meng> radical
22:10 < Electron> lol
22:10 < Yoda> are u mocking me?
22:10 < meng> would i
22:10 < Electron> why do people get so excited whenever I mention I'm getting a laptop? :)
22:10 < Yoda> cos its really cool
22:11 < Electron> it *is* cool, epscially when I can go out warwalking 
22:11 < meng> lol
22:11 < meng> watch out for lamp-posts
22:11 < Yoda> we can have a little laptop group
22:11 < Yoda> LapSoc
22:12 < Yoda> lol
22:12 < Yoda> am i the only one that found that funny?
22:12 <@pajh> Wouldn't that be the society for people from Lapland?
22:12 <@pajh> Or from LAPLAN?
22:12 < meng> that would be LappSoc
22:12 < meng> ?
22:12 <@pajh> Shut up, linguist.
22:13 < Yoda> can i use the Slap! command?
22:13  * Yoda slaps meng around a bit with a large trout
22:13 < Yoda> too late
22:13 < Electron> NO!
22:13 < Yoda> trigger happy
22:13 < meng> i hate you all
22:13  * Electron slaps Yoda around a bit with a large trout
22:13 < Electron> see, I can Slap! as well :)
22:14  * Yoda gets the Frozen Trout (Tm) out of the freezer
22:14  * meng slaps .* around with a bit with a large trout
22:14 < Yoda> i've got it and i'm not afraid to use it
22:14 < Yoda> that and a copy (or 4) of "Trout Fisher"
22:14 < meng> eh
22:15 < Yoda> i'll type out boring articles from it!
22:15 < Yoda> ha!
22:15 < meng> NOOOO
22:15 <@pajh> But then we can point and laugh at the grammar
22:15 <@pajh> _That's_ better.
22:15 <@pajh> Shit.
22:15 < Yoda> Competition fishing: Is it just "yobs with Blobs?"
22:16 < Yoda> lol
22:16 <@pajh> Yup-pies with flies
22:16 < Yoda> it's got an article about fishing in Lapland
22:16 < Yoda> the irony
22:16 <@pajh> Fools with spools
22:17 < Yoda> Our Lapland fishing guide Petter pointed ahead to a snow-capped mountain rishing from the mist over the river
22:17 < meng> "There be fish up there"
22:17 < Yoda> The highest muntain in Sweden, he shouted above the din of the ouboard
22:17 <@pajh> Consider revising. Long strings of prepositional phrases can be confusing.
22:18 < Yoda> We'd just begun an eight mile trup upriver to a spot where gin-clear snow melt tumbles between the volcanic boulder and artic char and grayling glash in every pool
22:18 < meng> TROUT ... on ICE
22:18 <@pajh> The Trout Capades?
22:18  * pajh realises he has never eaten trout.
22:19 < Yoda> Something about the vastness of the terrain compressed the distance, and the mountian didn't look very big, But as we puled the boar on to the shore an hour later, it hadn't crept any closer. In Lapland, you have to mentally scale everything up by a factor of four
22:19 <@pajh> And I haven't eaten salmon in ages. Who's up for a lete-night trip to Yo Sushi?
22:19 < Yoda> or just somewhere that does smoked salmon bagels?
22:19 < Yoda> i've got some trout if you want some
22:19 < Yoda> Michael can verify
22:19 < Yoda> isn't that right?
22:19 < meng> it's all true
22:20 < Yoda> all hacked into steaks
22:20 < Yoda> and smells of the loch that i caught them in
22:20 < meng> that part too
22:20 < Yoda> we should have had the trout for breakfast
22:21  * pajh puts his Antisocial Scretary hat on
22:21 <@pajh> CompSoc goes to Yodas and Yoda cooks trout Night
22:21 < Yoda> cool
22:21 < Yoda> but you have to do it after the exams
22:21 < Yoda> finals start next week
22:21 <@pajh> Which loch, btw?
22:21 < Yoda> ek, a week today
22:21 < Yoda> er, ...
22:22 < Yoda> let me think
22:22 < Yoda> it was really nice place
22:22 < Electron> don't think of them as finals, just any other exams
22:22 < Yoda> cant remember
22:22 < Yoda> i don't think i can
22:22 < Yoda> i was just saying how frustrated i am with the lack of library opening hours
22:22 < Electron> well there were finals last year as well, kind of
22:23 < Yoda> they were, but the lib was open till 1am
22:23 < meng> Today's Random Fact:  The Royal Infirmary has a gynaecologist called Dr. Thong
22:23 < Yoda> they shut at 5pm just now
22:23 < Yoda> not good
22:23 <@pajh> I should have gone to the library today
22:24 < Yoda> to do what?
22:24 <@pajh> But I spent the day either sleeping or reading webcomics
22:24 <@pajh> and eating fudge
22:24 < Yoda> why hasn't anyone changed the topic? does everyone like it?
22:24 < Yoda> Question: Who knows what song that's from?
22:24 < Yoda> the topic
22:25 < Yoda> come on class?
22:25 -!- pajh changed the topic of #compsoc to: No no, no no no no, no no no no, no no there's no limits
22:25 < Electron> just a min
22:25 < Electron> gah
22:25 < Yoda> you're not going to "google" it are you?
22:25 < meng> http://seabass.yi.org:8080/mp3/catalogue.php?start=.%2Fzz_tocd2%2FAustin%20Powers%20OST
22:25 <@pajh> Yes, we know it'
22:25 <@pajh> s from Austion Powers.
22:26 < Electron> hehe, yeah
22:26 < Electron> google didn't turn up anything
22:26 < Yoda> Paul, that's so 1992
22:26 < Yoda> or was it 1994?
22:27 -!- pajh changed the topic of #compsoc to: Sometimes I feel I've got to run away, I've got to get away from the pain you drive into the heart of me
22:28 <@pajh> '92, iirc
22:28 <@pajh> Hang on, let me check
22:29 <@pajh> (c) 1993 Byte Records Belgium.
22:30 -!- Yoda changed the topic of #compsoc to: oh what a night, late December back in 63 
22:31 -!- Yoda changed the topic of #compsoc to: oh what a night, late December back in 63, what a very special time for me, as I remember what a night
22:31 < Yoda> i rule at cheese
22:31 <@beaneater> there's nothing going on next week then I take it?
22:31 <@beaneater> fair enough, I don't really have time for it
22:31 < Yoda> wed afternoon?
22:31 < Yoda> well, not afternoon
22:32 < Yoda> 5pm ish?
22:32 < Yoda> or later?
22:32 <@beaneater> pubs not for me
22:32 < Yoda> ?
22:32  * beaneater not revising like he should
22:32 < Electron> pub on wednesday sounds good
22:33 -!- pajh changed the topic of #compsoc to: The minute you walked in the joint, I could see you were a man of distinction, A real big spender, Good looking, So refined, And wouldn't you like to know what's going on in my mind
22:34 < Yoda> always goes down a treat
22:35 < Yoda> esp at karoke
22:35 < Yoda> when some drunken bloke goes up to sing it
22:35 < Yoda> (topic)
22:36 -!- Electron changed the topic of #compsoc to: everything, everything, everything, everything, in it's right place in it's right place, in it's right place, in it's right place
22:36 < Electron> guess that one :)
22:37 -!- pajh changed the topic of #compsoc to: You spin me round round round right round, like a record baby, round round round round
22:39 -!- meng changed the topic of #compsoc to: My head is in a spin, my feet don't touch the ground, because you're near to me, my head goes rounds and round
22:40 -!- pajh changed the topic of #compsoc to: You come on like a drug, I just can't get enough, I'm like an addict coming at you for a little more
22:42 <@beaneater> jeez
22:43 <@beaneater> ruddy topicing
22:43 <@pajh> you can't beat us, beaneater. Join us.
22:43  * beaneater beats pajh
22:43 <@beaneater> *thump* *thump*
22:45  * pajh slaps beaneater around with a set of Computability and Intractability notes
22:47  * Yoda beats everyone with a large stack of different f***ing network protocols
22:50 < Yoda> guess i beat everyone
22:50  * beaneater responds to pajh with some Computational Complexity
22:50 <@beaneater> complexity trumphs computability
22:53  * pajh sses your computational complexity and raises you a hardcopy of the SGML specification
22:53 <@beaneater> ouch
22:55 -!- Electron changed the topic of #compsoc to: now the drugs don't work, they just make you worse but I know I'll see your face again
22:56  * Electron plays Verve CD
22:56 <@pajh> I liked the Verve before it was cool to like the Verve.
22:57 < meng> and then?
22:57 <@pajh> And then it became cool to like the Verve, by which time they'd already done all their good stuff
22:57  * pajh digs out his CD of `History'
22:57 < Electron> and then they disappeared
22:58 <@pajh> aaaaaaaaaagh!
22:58 <@pajh> Avengers DVD still stuck in drive!
22:58  * pajh gets stabby
22:58 -!- Yoda changed the topic of #compsoc to: At first I was afraid, I was petrified, kept thinking I could never live without you by my side, but then i spent so many nights, just thinking how you did me wrong
22:58 < Yoda> and I grew strong
22:58 <@pajh> brb rebooting
22:58 < Yoda> i learn how to get along
22:58 < Yoda> and now you're back
22:59 < Electron> does anyone remember a band called Let Loose, around the mid-90s?
22:59 < Yoda> from outer space, I just walked in to find you
22:59 -!- pajh [~pajh@62.49.12.235] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
22:59 < meng> with that look upon your face
22:59 < Yoda> with that sad look upon your face
22:59 < Yoda> i should have changed that stupid lock
22:59 < Yoda> i should have made you leave your key
23:00 < Yoda> if i had know just for a second that you'll be back to bother me
23:00 < Yoda> well now go
23:00 < Yoda> walk out the door
23:00 < Yoda> just turn around now
23:00 < Yoda> cos you're not welcome anymore
23:00 -!- pajh [~pajh@62.49.12.235] has joined #compsoc
23:01 < Yoda> right, off to watch the best tv show ever
23:01 < pajh> Star Trek?
23:01 < Yoda> no
23:01 < meng> NO
23:01 < Electron> must get more studying done :/
23:01 < Yoda> Sex and the City
23:01 < Yoda> duh
23:03 -!- meng changed the topic of #compsoc to: I sometimes see you pass outside my door, hello, is it me you're looking for?
23:08 -!- Leynos [leynos@194.222.8.242] has joined #compsoc
23:09 < Electron> hmmm, it seems Let Loose did exist, just they've left virtually nothing on the internet :)
23:09 < Leynos> Hi
23:09 < Leynos> who?
23:09 -!- pajh changed the topic of #compsoc to: A mulatto, an albino, a mosquito, my libido
23:09 < Leynos> http://e2btest.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/iwojima.jpg
23:10 < Electron> a band which played at my school, we were taken from classes to see them
23:10 < Electron> they were on tv and stuff, then totally disappeared
23:10 < Leynos> Wish that kind of thing happened at my school
23:11 < pajh> I remember the name, Let Loose, just can't recal anything they did
23:11 < Electron> also, a teacher's son from the RAF landed his helicopter in the field once
23:11 < pajh> Who remembers Scarlet? They went to my school.
23:11 < Electron> I thought it was a rock group, but according to http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/364080.stm they were a boy band
23:12 < meng> Rock bands don't play at schools
23:12 < Electron> well yeah
23:12 < Electron> they generally don't want that kind of publicity
23:13 < Leynos> Why are CF ethernet cards £127, but CF 802.11b cards are only £60?
23:13 < Leynos> 70
23:14 < meng> commodity pricing
23:14 < Electron> 802.11b is more popular?
23:14 < Leynos> Probably then
23:14 < meng> because you can't be mobile with your IPAQ if you keep on tripping over the cat 5?
23:15 < Leynos> Wonder if you still get CF SCSI cards
23:15 < meng> have you got a new handheld
23:15 < Leynos> nope
23:16 < Leynos> I was contemplating one of those Dell PocketPC thingymabobs that Angus got
23:17 < Leynos> Trying to think of a way of gatting it to talk to my Mac.  FTP over 802.11b seems the most sensible
23:17 < meng> as a former LX user, you couldn't stoop to that !
23:17 < pajh> oi, Electron: url me that thing about gorgeous fembots with a penchant for evil, again
23:17 < Leynos> I know.  :(
23:18 < meng> they say this is going to be what'll make LX users finally switch:
23:18 < Leynos> Maybe I could just get a double speed 192 MB 200LX if such things still exist :)
23:18 < meng> http://www.sofmap.com/shop/product/tanpin.asp?PRDT_ID=1395330
23:18 < meng> the screen rotates and flips over, so you can use it palm pilot style too
23:18 < Leynos> What ever happened to the MorphyOne?
23:18 < Electron> pajh: http://www.ubergeek.tv/switchlinux
23:19 < Leynos> That looks tastey
23:19 < meng> i want one
23:20 < pajh> That's the one. Wonder why it not in cache?
23:20 < Leynos> Does it have a database?  ;)
23:20 < Leynos> That's the app I used most on the 200LX, and none of the new palmtops seem to have a database that lives up to it
23:22 < meng> you could write your own
23:22 < Leynos> The thing is tho, although running Linux on a palmtop is well geeky and stuff, is it actually usable for proper palmtop stuff?
23:23 < meng> depends what you mean, i guess pda stuff is more usable with the keyboard
23:24 < meng> that's what put me off the palm pilot + friends
23:24 < Electron> there's a mini qt
23:24 < Electron> which can be used on palmtops
23:24 < pajh> the palm v r0x0rs your s0x0rs right off.
23:25 < Leynos> Palm V only has 2 MB RAM and no card ports
23:25 < pajh> *MB, thank you very much.
23:25 < pajh> 8
23:25 < Leynos> 8.  ok
23:25 < Leynos> Still not enough
23:25 < Electron> 8MB? that's plenty
23:25 < Leynos> (For what I want to use it for
23:25 < Leynos> )
23:26 < Electron> I used to run MS Word, Excel etc in 4MB
23:26 < meng> not 4MB of disc you didn't
23:26 < Leynos> yeah, but the 8 MB is your disk drive as well
23:26 < Electron> no, RAM
23:26 < Electron> no swapping either
23:26 < Leynos> I'm sure I ran windows 3 from a 10 MB hard drive at one point.  But still
23:28 < Electron> yeah, 8MB is too small these days
23:28 < meng> CF is so cheap now you got to have
23:28 < pajh> 10MB? Ooh, what we would have done for 10MB.
23:28 < Leynos> £50 for a 250 MB SD card
23:28 < meng> I paid £160 for a 32MB pcmcia flash when I got my LX
23:28 < pajh> Kids these days don't know they're born.
23:29 < pajh> I had Windows 3.1 on a 6MB HD, /and/ that was /after/ I'd run doublespace.
23:29 < Leynos> ph34r
23:29 < Leynos> errr...  so you had a 4? MB hard drive?
23:30 < pajh> Something like that.
23:30 < meng> on what must have been at least a 286?
23:30 < pajh> 386SX, 33MHz iirc.
23:30  * Leynos first PC: 286, 1MB RAM, 10 MB HDD, Herculese gfx
23:31 < pajh> bought with cash. My own cash that I got, indirectly, thorugh my mother trying to kill me.
23:32 < Leynos> meng:  Where can I find out about apps specifically for Zaurus?
23:35 < meng> not sure, maybe start from http://avi.freedman.net/zaurus/slc700.html
23:35 < Leynos> Cheers.
23:36 < Leynos> What sort of keyboard is that?
23:36 < meng> ?
23:37 < Leynos> sorry.  looked funny
23:38 < Leynos> "After 15-20 minutes the Zaurus thinks it's drained"  Hmmmm.....
23:39 < meng> all palmtops should run off AAs
23:39 < Leynos> yeah
23:41 < meng> only problem with the LXs is you can't play on networks much with them
23:41 < Yoda> hey everyone
23:41 < meng> although I did managed to get mine set up with WWW/LX, PPP and IrDA stacks, so I can gleefully write to people I'M ON THE TRAIN in their e-mail
23:41 < Yoda> i'm back
23:42 < Yoda> did anyone miss me?
23:42 < Leynos> nice one
23:42 < Leynos> IRC/LX?
23:42 < Yoda> ?
23:42 < Yoda> I'M ON THE TRAIN?
23:42 < Leynos> Hi Kate
23:42 < Yoda> yo Dave
23:42 < Yoda> how's the land of Kinross
23:43 < Leynos> I never go outside ;)
23:43 < meng> JE SUIS DANS LE TRAIN
23:43 < Yoda> never?
23:43 < Yoda> at all?
23:43 < Leynos> nah.  Not really.  But I might as well
23:44 < Yoda> Not even to the Kingdom of Fife?
23:45 < meng> There be dragons
23:45 < Yoda> in Fife?
23:45 < Yoda> er ... yeah, right
23:45 < pajh> Look out, all. nine9 just signed on to #britnoders. He could be here any minute.
23:46 < Yoda> wwoooo hooo!
23:46 < Leynos> 700 dollars!?  eep
23:46 < Yoda> who is this Duro guy
23:46 < Yoda> does he ever talk?
23:46 < meng> i think that's ricky
23:47 < Yoda> is he ever around?
23:47 < Yoda> oh ....
23:47 < Yoda> why the sucky nick?
23:47 < Yoda> everyone should have a cool nickname
23:48 < meng> says?
23:48 < pajh> Oh yeah?
23:48 < Yoda> and i think having your dcs username is not cool
23:48 < Yoda> so paul and michael, change or get out
23:48 < meng> starting are you
23:48 < meng> eh?
23:49 < Yoda> like i said, you're always nasty to me
23:49 < Yoda> so no, i'm not starting
23:49 < Yoda> i now cannot use the colon because of you
23:49 < Yoda> i'm colon-challenged
23:49 < meng> that could be painful
23:50 < meng> but don't blame me
23:50 < meng> !
23:50 < Yoda> anyway, change your nick
23:50 < meng> to?
23:50 < Yoda> mmmm
23:50 < Yoda> now you're asking
23:50 < Yoda> let me think
23:50 < Yoda> Dust Puppy
23:50 < meng> do explain
23:50 < Yoda> because you have the same hairstyle
23:50 < Yoda> haha
23:51 < Yoda> no comments?
23:51 < meng> i'm speechless
23:51 < Yoda> are you going to change it then?
23:51 < meng> tonight, matthew
23:51 <@beaneater> don't
23:51 <@beaneater> meng is good
23:51 < Yoda> do
23:52 < Yoda> do
23:52 <@beaneater> pajh is good
23:52 <@beaneater> cs usernames good
23:52 < meng> but meng isn't my dcs username
23:52 < Yoda> is beaneater your username?
23:52 <@beaneater> no
23:52 <@beaneater> nicholaw is
23:52 < Yoda> well then ...
23:52 < pajh> Who needs a real (tm) name when you have a login?
23:52 < Leynos> it used to be
23:52 <@beaneater> I would change it 
23:52 <@beaneater> but I'm beaneater on irc
23:52 <@beaneater> easier though nicholaw would in fact be 
23:52 < Yoda> no ...
23:53 < Yoda> need to change it
23:53 -!- pajh changed the topic of #compsoc to: Rah rah Rasputin, lover of the Russian queen. There was a cat that really was gone.
23:53 < Yoda> besides making nicknames up for them will help me to procastinate
23:53 < Yoda> so paul would be ...
23:53 <@beaneater> pajh is a brilliant irc name
23:53 <@beaneater> I don't have enough initials to use
23:53 <@beaneater> but if you can, do it
23:53 < Yoda> the REAL Dr Evil
23:54 < pajh> The benefits of having snobby parents.
23:54 < meng> i still think we should make those t-shirts
23:54 < Yoda> no
23:54 < meng> yes
23:54 < Yoda> we won't 
23:54 < Yoda> not cool
23:54 < pajh> My mother gave me two middle names "in case I wanted to be a lawyer".
23:54 < meng> since when were we cool?
23:54 < Yoda> i would lose so much street cred
23:54 < meng> this is compsoc
23:54 < pajh> which tshirts?
23:54 < Yoda> don't tell him
23:54 < meng> i have to
23:54 < Yoda> he might be persuaded to do them
23:54 < Yoda> no
23:54 < meng> exactly
23:55 < Yoda> i will kill you
23:55 < meng> you were going to anyway
23:55 < Yoda> with my Frozen Trout (tm)
23:55 < Yoda> yeah, but this time, more painfully
23:55 < meng> i will feel no pain
23:55 < pajh> TELL ME
23:55 < meng> anyway, about the t-shirts
23:55 < Yoda> no
23:55 < Yoda> no
23:55 < Yoda> no
23:55 < Yoda> no
23:55 < Yoda> no
23:55 < Yoda> no
23:55 < Yoda> no
23:56 < Yoda> no
23:56 < Yoda> no
23:56 < Yoda> no
23:56 < Yoda> no
23:56 < meng> i thought it might be nice, before some people graduate
23:56 < Yoda> no
23:56 < Yoda> no
23:56 < Yoda> no
23:56 < Yoda> no
23:56 < Yoda> no
23:56 < Yoda> no
23:56 < Yoda> no
23:56 < Yoda> no
23:56 < Yoda> no
23:56 < Yoda> no
23:56 < Yoda> no
23:56 < Yoda> no
23:56 < Yoda> no
23:56 < Yoda> no
23:56 < Yoda> no
23:56 < Yoda> DID YOU HEAR ME
23:56 < Yoda> STOP IT
23:56 < pajh> arse. Somebody op me.
23:56 < Yoda> it's SOOOOO not cool
23:56 < meng> we get a round of 'geek chic' t-shirts
23:56 < pajh> I /am/ Communications Officer.
23:56 < meng> compsoc theme
23:57 < pajh> In a monospaced font, naturally.
23:57 < Yoda> no
23:57 < Yoda> no, no, no
23:57 < pajh> Yoda, shut up.
23:57 < Yoda> did you hear me
23:57 < Yoda> bad idea
23:57 < meng> say for example, kate would have one with "YODA" on the back, and "COMPSOC" or "COMPSOC OLD GANG" or "COMPSOC: 2000"
23:58 < Yoda> no
23:58 < meng> i am sure we can come up with something witty enough
23:58 < Yoda> see what a bad idea it is
23:59 < meng> everyone knows that geek theme t-shirts are the epitome of geekiness
23:59 < Yoda> the only thing worst than geeks are geeks that are proud to be geeks
23:59 < meng> but paul is
23:59 < meng> this is what compsoc is
23:59 < pajh> Shut up, Kate.
23:59 < meng> it was clear from the outset -- look in the time capsule
--- Day changed Thu Apr 10 2003
00:00 < pajh> I had nothing to do with this time capsule. Would someone mind enlightening me?
00:00 < Yoda> i'm listening to depressing music, leave me alone
00:00 < meng> http://homepages.inf.ed.ac.uk/s9902403/compsoc/
00:00 < pajh> I'm listening to the original version of Tainted Love.
00:00 < Yoda> Eminem
00:00 < Yoda> the really, really depressing stuff
00:01 < Electron> I'm listening to Mike Oldfield music
00:01 < meng> tubular bells
00:01 < Electron> nope
00:01 < Electron> best of elememts
00:01 < Yoda> i had to delete all my mail to clear out some space due to the "tight" quotas at DCS
00:01 < Yoda> tight being an understatment
00:02 < Yoda> just tubular bells? nothing else?
00:02 < Yoda> classic fm or radio 2?
00:02 < meng> eh
00:02 < Electron> ?
00:02 < Yoda> classic fm or radio 2 usually play that kind of stuff
00:02 < Yoda> me? i'm a Bach girl myself
00:02 < Electron> no they don't
00:03 < Yoda> yes they do
00:03 < Electron> mike oldfield is like totally different
00:03 < pajh> oh wow
00:03 < pajh> meng++
00:03 < meng> radio 2 is all elton john and sting
00:03 < pajh> Yoda++ Bach++
00:03 < meng> what is with this ++ 
00:03 < meng> pardon my ignorance
00:04 < pajh> It's a statement of approval, which would be a lot more use if we had a karmabot.
00:04 < meng> let's get one
00:05 < pajh> hahah. Beaneater's bad French, preserved on a webpage for all time.
00:06 < pajh> That's "ceci n'est pas footnote [4]".
00:06 < Yoda> stop with the french
00:07 < pajh> s'arrette avec la francais
00:07 < pajh> meng: infobot.org
00:09 < Yoda> trout.org
00:09 -!- Leynos [leynos@194.222.8.242] has quit [Quit: Off to dreams of Laserdiscs and Neo-Geos (and Xboxes)]
00:10 < Yoda> i hate everyone and everything
00:10 < Yoda> apart from trout, they're ok
00:13 < Yoda> why the no chat?
00:13 < Yoda> have i killed it
00:14 < meng> looked like it
00:14 < meng> right then
00:14 < Yoda> have u read those books yet?
00:15 < meng> err . guess
00:15 < meng> i haven't been in a reading mood much recently
00:15 < Yoda> make the time! a bit of bedtime reading never harmed anyone
00:15 < Yoda> I'm reading "The Code Book" for bedtime reading
00:15 < meng> nearly finished "Knowledge of Angels" by Jill-Paton Walsh
00:15 < Yoda> nothing like the theory of RSA to put u to sleep
00:15 < meng> started in July 
00:16 -!- Duro [~webmaster@62.31.68.19] has quit []
00:16 < Yoda> July 1998?
00:16 < Yoda> or 2002?
00:17 < meng> 2002 !  A lit student gave it to me, it's a deep and philosophical book
00:17 < meng> this is the problem, too deep for me man
00:17 < Yoda> tried them, but i find them boring
00:18 < meng> two chapters from the end, I stopped for the fear of finishing the book, putting it down, and then going "so what was all that about"
00:18 < meng> didn't help that I left 4 month gaps between reading chunks
00:18 < meng> that gripping !
00:19 < meng> i will get round to reading yours, but the kevin warwick one looks boring ...
00:19 < Yoda> *that* gripping
00:19 < Yoda> i dusted the Germaine Greer one out after you slagging it off
00:20 < Yoda> and it makes so much sense
00:20 < meng> read any yet ?
00:20 < Yoda> i think maturity makes a lot of difference
00:20 < pajh> Don't get me started. Bitch.
00:20 < Yoda> i was a teenager the last time i tried to read it
00:20 < Yoda> but now i'm 21, that makes all the difference
00:20  * Yoda sniggers
00:21 < meng> when is the next compsoc birthday
00:22 < Yoda> i've still got LoTRs to finish
00:22 < Yoda> don't know
00:22 < Yoda> has anyone got the original email?
00:22 < Electron> http://homepages.inf.ed.ac.uk/s9902403/compsoc/
00:22 -!- Electron [~brucec@212.159.111.239] has left #compsoc []
00:22 < Yoda> and get the original date of the first meet
00:23 < meng> Not all of it is on that page
00:23 < meng> I think I deleted some ...
00:24 < Yoda> 19th Jan
00:24 < Yoda> that's compsoc's birthday
00:24 < meng> at 3pm
00:25 < Yoda> my little baby
00:25 < meng> 19 jan 2004 is a monday
00:25 < Yoda> it'll be compsoc's 5th birthday
00:25 < Yoda> i'll definitely be up for a few
00:25 < meng> five years already !
00:25 < Yoda> i know
00:26 < Yoda> or is it 4 ...?
00:26 < Yoda> it is 5
00:26 < Yoda> 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004
00:26 < Yoda> yeah, 5 
00:26 < meng> no, becuase we were 0 in 2000
00:26 < meng> so it's 4
00:26 < meng> oh
00:26 < Yoda> ok
00:26 < Yoda> fair enough
00:26 < Yoda> i won't come up
00:27 < meng> 19 jan 2005 is a wednesday !
00:27 < meng> peartree at 3pm
00:27 < meng> write it in your diaries now
00:27 < Yoda> yeah, for those of us who plan 2 yrs in advance
00:27 < Yoda> mine only goes up to July
00:28 < Yoda> the committee of that year should organise something big
00:28 < Yoda> get everyone together
00:28 < Yoda> all 10 of us
00:28 < pajh> no one knows where Simon is.
00:29 < meng> is his email dead
00:29 < Yoda> we'll stick something on a website
00:29 < Yoda> we can find him
00:30 < Yoda> we do have 2 years to
00:30 < meng> quadturtle@hotmail.com
00:31 < Yoda> i think its a little premature tho, all this chat
00:31 < Yoda> and where's everyone gone?
00:33 < meng> nobody said bye
00:33 < Yoda> so rude
00:33 < Yoda> you do know we live 5 mins from each other and yet we're chatting over IRC
00:33 < Yoda> how sad is this?
00:34 < pajh> But we're all doing other stuff.
00:34 < pajh> IRC allows us to multitask.
00:34 < meng> sort of
00:34 < Yoda> lol, i'm not
00:34 < meng> anyway, this is compsoc
00:34 < Yoda> i'm just chatting to ppl
00:34 < Yoda> about 3 at the same time
00:40 < Yoda> still there?
00:40 < meng> m
00:40 < Yoda> change your nick to Dust Puppy
00:40 < Yoda> trust me, it suits you
00:41 < Yoda> and its a geeks nickname cos only geeks will get it
00:41 < Yoda> you'd be as well (tm)
00:41 < Yoda> that's a no then
00:41 < meng> i think there needs to be a reason
00:42 < Yoda> there is the reason
00:42 < Yoda> read above!
00:42 < meng> not a big fan of psuedonyms
00:42 < meng> like kevin, he changes his all the time
00:42 < meng> that's just silly
00:43 < Yoda> yeah, you *could* be like kevin
00:43 < Yoda> or you could be normal like the rest of us
00:43 < Yoda> your choice
00:43 < meng> whereas now I am?
00:43 -!- Yoda is now known as NeoCool
00:43 < NeoCool> now that's a hacker nick
00:43 < NeoCool> or ...
00:44 -!- NeoCool is now known as FlameForce
00:44 < meng> lol
00:44 < FlameForce> I wonder if there's a formula
00:44 < meng> sounds like something a quake player would use
00:44 < FlameForce> like the first name of your first computer plus ...
00:44 < FlameForce> an elemental force
00:45 < meng> first of all, like all software packages in the 90s, there needs to me a capital letter in the middle of the word
00:45 -!- FlameForce is now known as BlueRat
00:45 < BlueRat> yeah
00:45 < BlueRat> agreed
00:45  * BlueRat don't like the BlueRat nick
00:45 < meng> in fact, i could just adopt one of those
00:45 -!- You're now known as SuperCalc
00:46 < SuperCalc> doesn't have the same ring, though does it
00:46 < BlueRat> rofl
00:46 < BlueRat> class
00:46 < BlueRat> !!!
00:46 -!- BlueRat is now known as Navigator
00:46 -!- You're now known as Explorer
00:46 < Navigator> i like that
00:46 < Explorer> sounds like netscape
00:46 < Navigator> now we sound like a couple of travellers
00:47  * Navigator pounds Explorer
00:47 < Navigator> lol
00:47 -!- Navigator is now known as TroutKiller
00:47 < TroutKiller> this one is cool
00:47 < TroutKiller> imagine this on Quake
00:47 < TroutKiller> everyone would be quaking
00:48 < Explorer> like an earthquake
00:48 < TroutKiller> You were fragged by <TroutKiller>
00:48 < TroutKiller> i like it
00:48 < pajh> You fools.
00:49 < TroutKiller> no we're not
00:49 < Explorer> i think we need to get a compsoc bot
00:49 -!- TroutKiller is now known as Google
00:49 -!- You're now known as AltaVista
00:49 < Google> compsoc bot?
00:49 < pajh> We need an infobot.
00:49 < AltaVista> who wants to install it
00:50 < AltaVista> ie. who never reboots
00:50 < Google> i run windows
00:50 < AltaVista> fair enough
00:50 < AltaVista> well a forest of hands there
00:50 < Google> beaneater
00:51 < AltaVista> maybe he's working
00:52 < Google> he never reboots
00:52 -!- Google is now known as Berties
00:52 <@beaneater> excuse me?
00:52  * beaneater reads scrollback
00:53  * Berties looks at Paul and Michael
00:53 < Berties> lol
00:53 <@beaneater> *shudder*
00:53 <@beaneater> Berties was obvious, but I had to look at who was here to see who AltaVista wasn't
00:53 -!- You're now known as Barry
00:53 <@beaneater> infobot
00:54 < Berties> yeah
00:54 <@beaneater> well dionysus is always on
00:54 <@beaneater> (beaneater.demon.co.uk to the world)
00:54 -!- Berties is now known as ICMPfRaGeR
00:55 <@beaneater> is there policy on this server?
00:55 < ICMPfRaGeR> why don't you ask kev
00:55 < ICMPfRaGeR> that admin guy
00:55 <@beaneater> well I was asking now
00:55 < ICMPfRaGeR> o
00:55 <@beaneater> in case anybody knew
00:55 <@beaneater> it might have come up
00:55 < Barry> your nick sucks kate
00:55 < pajh> So you could run our putative infobot, beaneater.
00:56 <@beaneater> putatively
00:56 < ICMPfRaGeR> why does it suck?
00:56 < ICMPfRaGeR> it's standard exam chat
00:56 < Barry> if you're going to have a hAx0r nick, you need punctuation, and numbers
00:57 < Barry> just upper and lower case doesn't cut it anymore
00:57 -!- ICMPfRaGeR is now known as Bill
00:57 -!- You're now known as Ben
00:57 < Bill> the flower pot men
00:58 < Ben> what are we going to call our bot
00:58 <@beaneater> bot
00:58 < Bill> mmm...
00:58 < Bill> no, too boring
00:59 < Bill> NeoCoolBot1232++!!!
00:59 <@beaneater> they had bots in 1232?
00:59 < Bill> enough numbers in there for you
00:59 < Ben> that sounds like a hotmail address
00:59 < Bill> lol
01:00 < Bill> how about after someone we all aspire to?
01:00 < Bill> i know it is only a bot
01:00 < Bill> but we should call it something meaningful
01:00 < Ben> is there one person?
01:00 < pajh> How about Kevin?
01:00 < Ben> as in>
01:01 < Bill> Mitnick?
01:01 < Bill> not Warwick
01:01 < Ben> Cheng
01:01 < Ben> Campbell
01:01 < pajh> Carter
01:01 -!- pajh changed the topic of #compsoc to: High time magazine, high pulitzer prize
01:02 < Bill> mmm ... 
01:02 < Bill> maybe not
01:02 -!- Bill is now known as Pronto
01:03 -!- You're now known as Speedy
01:04 -!- You're now known as Yoda
01:04 < Pronto> Pronto was my actual nick in first year
01:04 < Pronto> oi
01:04 < Yoda> now just wait until Mark arrives
01:04 < Pronto> don't abuse my nick
01:04 < Pronto> what are you going to do? sell porn to him again?
01:04 < Pronto> lol
01:04 -!- Pronto is now known as meng
01:05 < Yoda> hey
01:05 < meng> ha
01:05 < meng> you will get that date after all!
01:05 < meng> <evil laugh>
01:05 < meng> mwwahhhhahhahahhahhahha
01:05 < meng> </evil laugh>
01:05 < Yoda> did i tell you about someonelovesyou.com
01:06 < meng> no ...
01:06 < meng> should i
01:06 < meng> ?
01:06 < Yoda> should you what?
01:06 < pajh> s/loves/likes/g ;
01:06 < pajh> EVIL evil evil.
01:06 < pajh> And not in a good way.
01:06 < Yoda> you got one from mark too then
01:06 < pajh> They must be destroyed. Utterly.
01:06 < meng> i'm still checking out cool hacker nicks
01:07 < Yoda> a clever idea though, it has to be said
01:07 < Yoda> if there's one way to play on peoples' psychology
01:08 < meng> kind of like shagtag then
01:08 < meng> apart from the shagging
01:08 < meng> of course
01:08 < meng> and its kind of geeky
01:08 < Yoda> i think that is a little more forward
01:08 < meng> which? what?
01:08 < Yoda> nm
01:09 < meng> hey i can pratice to be like you
01:09 < meng> Ha, I am the greatest ... blah blah blah, I do no work and talk about boring stuff
01:09 < Yoda> you're so full of crap
01:10 < meng> oh yeah?
01:10 < Yoda> do you want a slap?
01:10 < meng> are you starting?
01:10 < meng> eh?
01:10 < Yoda> a real life one?
01:10  * Yoda slaps meng around a bit with a large trout
01:10 < meng> the url doesn't work
01:11 < Yoda> ?
01:11 < meng> yeah, me, you, a fight, who would win?
01:11 < Yoda> you ... in your DREAMS
01:11 < pajh> Turbolift debate!
01:11 < meng> it's Janeway all the way!!!
01:11 < meng> all the way baby
01:12 < meng> she rocks
01:12 < pajh> I could beat Janeway with one hand
01:12 < meng> yeah right
01:12 < pajh> (if it had a phaser in it)
01:12 < meng> yeah
01:12 < pajh> ZAP
01:12 < meng> and you have a headstart
01:13 < meng> anyway
01:13 < meng> did you know they wrote a biography of Janeway
01:13 < meng> it was a while ago
01:13 < meng> I read it, great
01:13 < meng> can we call our bot that?
01:13 < meng> the Janeway Bot
01:15 < meng> now to abuse my powers with this nick
01:15 < meng> i think i'll go to gamesoc and slag them all off
01:15 < meng> ha ha ha
01:16 < Yoda> see if i care
01:16 < meng> bet you would
01:16 < Yoda> oh yeah
01:16 < meng> stop it
01:16 < meng> you're doing it again
01:17 < meng> arguing just to piss me off
01:17 < meng> Noaf was soooo right
01:17 < meng> you well get enjoyment from it
01:18 < Yoda> you make it sound so one sided
01:18 < Yoda> whos the victim here
01:18 < meng> we'll get a vote
01:18 < Yoda> right
01:18 < meng> get paul to decide
01:18 < Yoda> paul, decide
01:19 < meng> i don't think he's paying attention
01:19 <@beaneater> um
01:19 <@beaneater> sorry to be the dull one
01:19 < Yoda> aha
01:19 <@beaneater> but why is a bot necessary?
01:19 < pajh> I'm back
01:19 <@beaneater> for what purpose?
01:19 < pajh> What do I have to decide on?
01:20 < meng> who is nasty to who
01:20 < Yoda> nick: the bot is not necessary, it's for a laugh (when is a bot ever necessary)
01:20 < meng> Michael to me or Michael to me?
01:20 < meng> that's your choice
01:20 < pajh> The bot will hold all sorts of useful information
01:20 < pajh> and be hackable
01:20 < meng> yeah, i like hackable stuff
01:20 < meng> not that i can hack
01:21 < meng> Paul, decide
01:21 <@beaneater> well find a nice Perl-based bot
01:21 < meng> me or Michael
01:21 <@beaneater> and I'll happily host it, assuming it be welcome on this server
01:21 < pajh> and reop me
01:21 -!- mode/#compsoc [+o pajh] by beaneater
01:21 <@pajh> yay!
01:22 < Yoda> meng: i think he's avoiding the question
01:22 < meng> don't do that
01:22 < meng> calling me "meng"
01:22 < meng> too weird
01:22 < meng> but yeah, i think he's avoiding the question too
01:22 < Yoda> what to do
01:23 < meng> throw a dice
01:23 < meng> or even better, a coin
01:23 < meng> i'll tell you what
01:23 < meng> i have a wicked idea
01:23 < Yoda> i don't think that's really an expressive third opinion
01:23 < meng> wanna hear it?
01:23 < Yoda> go on
01:23 < meng> we get Mark on this channel
01:24 < meng> and we see who can fool him the longest
01:24 < Yoda> lol
01:24 < meng> that we're the other person
01:24 < meng> whoever does it the longest wins
01:24 < Yoda> but if he types whois, the names are reversed
01:24  * pajh just became unfooled
01:24 <@pajh> I thought something was up.
01:24 < meng> we log out and relog in
01:24 < meng> we should have talk about this in private, shouldn't we?
01:25 < Yoda> haha paul had it fooled, and he was right here
01:25 < meng> i know!!!
01:25 < meng> we're sooo good
01:25 <@pajh> I was buying fags
01:25 <@pajh> and talking to hot geek chix0r in other channel
01:25 < meng> we'll let you off
01:25 < Yoda> how do we get hold of mark
01:26 < meng> oh ... geek chick again
01:26 <@pajh> She will be mine. Oh yes. She WILL be mine.
01:26 < meng> what is the e2 irc channel?
01:26 < meng> we find that, we find Mark
01:26 <@pajh> Mark's asleep, but he looged on to slashnet briefly, earlier
01:26 < meng> damn
01:26 < meng> we get Bruce them
01:26 < meng> we get Bruce then
01:26 < Yoda> how'd you know he's asleep
01:27 < meng> well....personal questions
01:27 <@pajh> Fear my strange powers.
01:27 < Yoda> maybe he has a webcam that takes pictures every thirty seconds
01:27 < meng> lol
01:27 < meng> no, Dave's still online
01:27 < meng> what do you think?
01:28 <@pajh> Because he logged on to slashnet, briefly, earlier
01:28 < Yoda> my icq says dave is away
01:28 < meng> yeah, but he hasn't got broadband
01:28 < meng> so he wont be away for *that* long
01:29 < meng> would he?
01:29 < Yoda> his ping is really long, he's probably downloading
01:29 < Yoda> but you can give it a try
01:30 < meng> no, we need someone here
01:30 < meng> like all here
01:30 < Yoda> someone needs to tell him to come on here
01:30 < meng> not if he's away
01:30 < Yoda> a convincing reason
01:31 < meng> hold on
01:31 < Yoda> ie. "come on irc, we're having diamond chat"
01:31 < Yoda> sounds a bit suspicious
01:31 < meng> wtf? i always do that
01:31 < Yoda> oh
01:31 < meng> and not lying either
01:31 < Yoda> well then, you do it, better still, get dave AND bruce
01:31 < meng> i do enjoy other people's conversations
01:31 < meng> no
01:31 < meng> not Bruce
01:32 < meng> he doesnt want to be here
01:32 < meng> just Dave
01:32 < Yoda> who evidently does
01:32 < meng> he's not there
01:32 < meng> don't mock me
01:32 < Yoda> you can't say that if you're in character
01:32 < meng> i warn you, i only live 5 mins away, i have a trout and i have a car
01:33 < meng> yeah, your catchphrase is "right then"
01:33 < Yoda> do not mock me
01:33 < meng> no
01:33 < meng> it's don't mock me
01:34 < meng> are you mocking me mocking you
01:34 < meng> ?
01:34 < Yoda> i demand respect
01:34 < meng> cos i can do stuff
01:34 < meng> see
01:34 < meng> i can do stuff
01:34 < Yoda> i hate you
01:34 < meng> bet you haven't got my number
01:34 < meng> so there
01:35 < Yoda> bet i do
01:35 < meng> bet i can disconnect my phone
01:35 <@beaneater> okay, what fool used the nick "I" at some point?
01:35 <@beaneater> http://beaneater.demon.co.uk/ircstats/compsoc.html
01:35 < Yoda> so can i
01:35 < meng> the phone was right next to me
01:35 < meng> i sooo could have picked up
01:36 < meng> but i thought of it first
01:36 < Yoda> aren't you the smart kiddie
01:36 < meng> indeedy
01:36 < Yoda> i know where you live
01:36 < meng> so do i
01:37 < meng> know where you live
01:37 < Yoda> like i care
01:37 <@pajh> yeah. 8209 words, baby.
01:37 <@pajh> ...8213.
01:37 -!- tef is now known as amstertef
01:38 <@pajh> amster?
01:38 < meng> lol ... Yoda is a very aggressive person. He/She attacked others 14 times.
01:38 <@beaneater> I'll tweak later
01:39 < meng> I'm the *most* active nick!
01:39 < meng> cool
01:39 < meng> i rock
01:40 < Yoda> i think we polluted the namespace
01:40 < meng> really? you reckon?
01:41 < meng> i want Mark to be here
01:41  * meng thinks of a nastybad plan
01:41  * meng sniggers
01:46 < Yoda> well
01:46 < meng> i forgot now, just started doing my assignment again
01:48 < Yoda> oh, i remembered, you want to use \begin{equnarray} and \lefteqn{}
01:48 < Yoda> eqnarray, even
01:49 < meng> haha
01:49 < meng> got him!
01:49 < Yoda> is he coming
01:49 < meng> Dave's coming
01:50 < Yoda> right
01:50 -!- amstertef is now known as tef-amsterdam
01:50 < meng> sshhh
01:50 < meng> anytime now
01:50 < meng> well ...
01:51 < meng> he just said ...
01:51 < Yoda> what do we do
01:52 < meng> wait a bit longer
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01:52 < Yoda> yo Dave
01:52 < Leynos> Yeah?
01:53 < Leynos> Note to self: Stop reading so many bloody web forums
01:53 < Yoda> what are you up to?
01:54 < Leynos> Not much
01:54 < Yoda> don't you think these t-shirts are a bad idea
01:54 < meng> Not much
01:54 < meng> ?
01:54 < meng> what's the matter? shouldnt you be revising?
01:55 < Leynos> T-Shirts?
01:55 < Leynos> Do they come inXXL?
01:55 < Yoda> shut up monkey boy
01:55 < meng> ignore Yoda
01:55  * Leynos forgot to revise today
01:56 < meng> yeah, did you see the article in slashdot today
01:56 <@tef-amsterdam> did i metnion im going to amsterdam tomorrow
01:56 < Yoda> no
01:56 <@tef-amsterdam> good
01:56 <@tef-amsterdam> im going to amsterdam tomorrow
01:56 < meng> really, what are you doing there?
01:57 < Yoda> probably something dirty
01:57 < Leynos> You know how at the end of Inspector Gadget, you hear The Claw saying "I'll get you next time, Gadget".  When I was younger, for some reason I thought that was the police chief saying he'd get Gadget next time with the self destructing letter
01:57 < meng> I never saw much of Inspector Gadget 
01:58 < Yoda> don't see much of anything, do you
01:58 < meng> are you starting?
01:58 < Yoda> not again
01:58 < Yoda> you're always nasty to me
01:58 < Leynos> tef's off to Amsterdam to get doped out on skunk and hooked up with ¤3 crack hoes
01:59 < Yoda> don't you agree Dave
01:59 < Leynos> I can never tell who starts it
01:59 < meng> it's always Yoda
02:00 < meng> don't you agree?
02:00 < Leynos> It was this time
02:00 < Leynos> ^^;
02:00 < Yoda> are u mocking me?
02:00 < meng> make sure you spend all your euros, i still have some left when i last went on hoilday
02:00 < meng> and its not use to me
02:01 < meng> you can't put it in a bank you know
02:01 < meng> Yoda: I am not mocking you
02:01 < Leynos> Does the travel agent not buy it back?
02:01 < Yoda> i demand respect
02:01 < Yoda> I know where you live
02:01 < meng> In the words of Ace of Base, I always have, I always will
02:01 < Yoda> and I have a trout
02:02 < Leynos> Konami's bringing Dance Dance Revolution and Silent Scope to Xbox
02:03 < Leynos> Silent Scope's going to be a compilation of all three games, so that'll save me having to get 2 & 3 for the PS2
02:03 < meng> is Konami that dance game at the Arcades?
02:04 < Leynos> DDR, yes
02:04 < meng> wasn't it at Game On!
02:04 < Leynos> There's other dance games by other companies to tho, but DDR was the original
02:04 < Leynos> Yes
02:04 < meng> right then
02:04 < Leynos> I'm just saying...
02:05 < Leynos> If I tried to play DDR tho, I'd probably cause structural dammage to my house
02:05 < Leynos> So I won't
02:05 < meng> I thought the architecture in Kinross was sturdy
02:06 < Leynos> Not this place
02:06 < meng> oh
02:07 < Leynos> The previous owners did some additional work, and it's kind of shoddily done to say the least
02:07 < meng> surely there is some planning permission/building permission for it all?
02:07 < Leynos> No idea
02:08 < Yoda> hows your revision going Dave
02:08 < meng> how's your's going Yoda?
02:09 < Yoda> anyway, enough chat
02:09 < Yoda> monkey boy never does any work, arts students
02:09 < Leynos> Okayish
02:09 < meng> what, running out of diamond chat are you?
02:09 <@pajh> Yes!
02:09 <@pajh> Score!
02:09 < Yoda> no
02:09 < meng> you've got to be careful, you might run out one day
02:09 < Yoda> what the hell are you on about Paul
02:10 < Yoda> i will never run out
02:10 <@pajh> Arguing about feminism as a means to get dates == most successful tactic EVER.
02:10 <@pajh> Ph34r me.
02:10 < meng> really, that's where I've been going wrong then
02:11 < Yoda> geek chick again ?
02:11 < Leynos> What's this about T-shirts btw?
02:11 <@pajh> who else?
02:11 < meng> Oh, this idea about having Compsoc t-shirts
02:12 < meng> we can get some printed and it'll have a witty comment plus our names on the back
02:12 < meng> it will be for true geeks
02:12 < meng> would you be interested?
02:12 < Leynos> nah
02:13 < Yoda> so is something going to happen or not Paul
02:13 < meng> no?
02:13 < Leynos> I'd probably get beaten up for wearing that
02:13 < Yoda> lol
02:13 < meng> in Kinross?
02:13 < Yoda> told you
02:13 < Leynos> all those neds sitting in the pub that never shuts.  Scarey lot that
02:14 < meng> but we're compsoc, right?
02:14 < meng> that's what we do
02:14 < Yoda> leave compsoc out of this
02:14 < Leynos> eh?
02:14 < Leynos> u lost me
02:14 < meng> why Yoda, it is our nature, don't fight against it
02:15 <@beaneater> bad thing: prorgrams which read in all their input before processing it
02:15 <@beaneater> in particular
02:15 <@beaneater> if they're fed a file which can be analysed line by line, 
02:15 <@beaneater> they should be analysed line by line
02:15 < Leynos> sounds bad
02:16 < Leynos> sounds bad for pipelining too
02:16 <@beaneater> now
02:16 <@beaneater> on a machine with 32MB RAM, 
02:16 <@beaneater> such a program doesn't work so well analysing my 28MB file
02:17 <@beaneater> second moral of the story
02:17 <@beaneater> Don't feed huge log files to log file analysers
02:17 <@beaneater> (it was another irc channel, fed to that analyser by mistake)
02:17  * beaneater goes to the shop for a bar of chocolate
02:17 < Leynos> k
02:18 < Leynos> beaneater analyses chocolate bars one segment at a time
02:18 < meng> a bar of chocolate, at this time of night? I hope he cleans his teeth
02:19 < meng> So Yoda, what have you been upto?
02:20 <@pajh> I just finished chicken kiev and potata fritters, at this time of night.
02:20 < meng> Finished your assignment yet?
02:21 < Yoda> not yet, spending all my time chatting
02:21 < meng> chatting? I thought you had that assignment due for Monday?
02:22 < Yoda> next Monday
02:22 < meng> oh
02:22 < meng> Well, I have this assignment due in too, it's not very interesting
02:23 < Yoda> every time I see you you're wasting time
02:23 < meng> of course, you don't think I do anything interesting do you, Yoda
02:23 <@pajh> Listen, you fools. You're in your final year. It's 2.30am. Get some sleep and do some work.
02:23 < Yoda> when are you going to get on with some work for a change
02:23 < Yoda> shut up Paul
02:23 <@pajh> You won't get another chance.
02:23 < Yoda> what about you
02:23 < Yoda> have you been revising
02:23 <@pajh> I'm a wage-slave, it's my prerogative.
02:24 < meng> come on, he still has 4 chances to go
02:24 < meng> out of 6
02:24 < Yoda> you can't fail it again
02:24 < Leynos> "You won't get another chance."  Leynos is aiming for a 3rd
02:24 < meng> Come on Paul, tell me you have revised
02:24 < meng> seriously
02:25 <@pajh> Did I mention the working-all-hours-God-sends thing?
02:25 < meng> I could give you a hand, if you need help, but you won't get anywhere unless you help yourself
02:25 < meng> but you'll just dig deeper and deeper
02:25 < meng> listen to me
02:25 < meng> if you don't try this year, when are you going to try?
02:26 <@pajh> I'm not the one who's sitting on IRC with finals looming.
02:26 <@pajh> Cast not the first stone.
02:26 < meng> I revise from 9am to 9pm every weekday
02:26 < Leynos> "I'm not the one who's sitting on IRC with finals looming."  Finals shminals
02:27 < meng> i would spend longer, but i have to look after other people at the weekend
02:27 < meng> unfortunately, that's how life goes
02:27 < Leynos> @_@
02:28 < meng> do it for yourself, but if you just want to cheat yourself out of another year, do it
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02:28 < Leynos> woah
02:28 < Yoda> oops
02:29 -!- You're now known as meng
02:29 < Leynos> !
02:29 < meng> haha
02:29 < meng> this was all a set up
02:29 < meng> did you guess
02:29  * Leynos faints
02:30 < meng> do you know how hard it is to be Kate for 38 minutes
02:32 < meng> enough time wasted for now, going to bed
02:32 < meng> bye
02:32 -!- You're now known as meng|away
02:33 < Leynos> vsddvfvsdvfvffssdsvfjt
02:33 < meng|away> ?
02:34 < meng|away> night
02:35 < Leynos> yeah
02:36 < Leynos> WHAT THE FUCK?!?
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03:31 <@beaneater> I am going to fail graphics
03:39 <@pajh> No you're not.
03:39 <@pajh> Positive mental attitude.
03:39 <@pajh> What are you? You're a tiger!
03:39 <@pajh> ...and, um, tigers do well at graphics.
03:40 <@beaneater> heh
03:41 <@pajh> maybe if you try and think about graphics in terms of bouncing....
03:50 <@beaneater> *glare*
03:55 <@pajh> raaAAAh.
04:00 <@beaneater> I may have to perform a revision cheat
04:01 <@beaneater> er plan
04:01 <@beaneater> strategy
04:01 <@beaneater> that is I can't see myself being able to cover the course in enough detail => only cover part, in hopefully sufficient detail, questions are 2/3
04:01 <@beaneater> just seems Wrong.
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19:37 <@pajh> I have often walked down this street before.
19:37 <@pajh> But the pavement always stayed beneath my feet before.
19:37 <@pajh> All at once am IIiiiii several storeys high
19:37 < Leynos> What the hell was going on last night?
19:38 <@pajh> Knowing there's a girl in Liverpool who's not entirely averse to the idea of having sex with me.
19:38 <@pajh> ...still working on the scansion in the last line.
19:38 < Leynos> You're beginning to sound like Andrew Coll
19:38 <@pajh> Leynos: in what sense? People were born, people died, all the trees got a little bit taller.
19:38 <@pajh> Who Andrew Coll?
19:39 < Leynos> On this IRC channel.  Why was meng prettending to be Kate?
19:39 <@pajh> And Kate was pretending to be meng.
19:39 < Leynos> Andrew Coll former AI student from Caithness
19:39 <@pajh> There was this whole nick-swappage incident.
19:39 < Leynos> Why?
19:39 <@pajh> Why not?
19:39 < Electron> what was Andrew's nickname?
19:40 < Electron> I recognise the name, but was he in gpo?
19:40 < Leynos> AColl.  Used to be Caliban
19:40 < Electron> ah, nope
19:40 < Leynos> He was in GPO at one point
19:41 < Leynos> Last year, he was frequently seen eating breakfat at 1 pm in the JCMB common room
19:41 < Electron> pajh: this the geek girl from irc?
19:41 < Leynos> breakfast
19:41 <@pajh> None other.
19:41 <@pajh> And she's hot, too.
19:41 < Leynos> anyway, pajh is seriously beginning to sound like Andrew Coll
19:42 <@pajh> In what way?
19:42 -!- You're now known as meng
19:42 < meng> Evening gents
19:42 <@beaneater> evening
19:42 < meng> it really is me, this time
19:42 <@pajh> Eve....niiiiiiiing.
19:42 < Electron> evenin'
19:43 <@pajh> Why do I sound like him, curse you?
19:43 < meng> sorry about last night Dave I think we were playing around with your mind
19:44 <@pajh> Dave's mind is going.
19:44 < Electron> w00t! my laptop has left Coventry at last!
19:44 <@pajh> BWAAAH HAH HAH
19:44 < Leynos> pajh: always talking about unsuccessful relationships
19:44 < Electron> heh
19:45 <@pajh> Is there any other kind?
19:45 <@pajh> And is there anything more worthy of being talked about?
19:45 < Leynos> nope
19:45 < Leynos> But still
19:45 < meng> in moderation
19:46 <@pajh> Fine, vilify me for having my priorities right.
19:46 < Leynos> I think it's the sort of thing that if you keep talking about, you dig yourself into a pit
19:46 < Leynos> That's what happened to Andrew Coll
19:47 < meng> what happened to him?
19:47 < Leynos> He repeated 2nd year, then dropped out
19:47 < Leynos> And now he's almost never on ICQ
19:48 < meng> That's ok then
19:48 < meng> paul is always on icq
19:48 < Leynos> heh
19:48 < Leynos> That's why I say "starting"
19:50 < meng> Bruce what kind of laptop are you getting
19:52 -!- There is no such nick #compsoc
19:57 < meng> right
19:57 < meng> Dave are you there
19:58 < Leynos> yeah
19:58 < meng> i thought i killed the chat
19:58 <@pajh> owwwwwwwwwwwww.
19:58 < meng> ibook or powerbook
20:00 < meng> i sent mail to those people who wanted a ticket for the thingy on sunday
20:00 < meng> who is Gissela Campos
20:00 < meng> i worry about all these people who sit on the mailing list
20:00 < Leynos> I thought it was a Dell that Electron is getting
20:00 < meng> and read our random chat
20:00 < meng> "the silent majority"
20:01 <@pajh> they lurk in the depths of CompSoc
20:01 < meng> either that, or they use procmail to redirect the chat in /dev/null
20:02  * Leynos rederects meng to /dev/null
20:02 < meng> probably where a lot of it should reside
20:02 < meng> cat /dev/random > /dev/null
20:03 < Leynos> cat /dev/zero > /dev/meng
20:03 < Electron> meng: Dell Inspiron 9500
20:04 < Electron> *8500
20:04 <@pajh> cat /dev/meng > /dev/null
20:05 < Electron> so many people seem to repeat CS2
20:05 < meng> you will never silence me
20:05 < Electron> 2 of my flatmates were repeating it, last year
20:05 < Leynos> That's cos ML is evil tho
20:05 < Electron> not ML
20:05 < Leynos> I heard AI2 is evil too
20:06 < Electron> they were in the class of 99
20:06 < meng> i would concur
20:06 < Electron> me too
20:06 < Leynos> ah
20:06 < Electron> especially if you've not done ai1bh
20:06 < Leynos> CS2 Java was a cakewalk
20:07 < meng> there were many casualties that came out of the wumpus world
20:08 < Electron> ah yes, wump
20:09 < Electron> You're in a cave with 20 rooms and 3 tunnels leading from each room.
20:09 < Electron> There are 3 bats and 3 pits scattered throughout the cave, and your
20:09 < Electron> quiver holds 5 custom super anti-evil Wumpus arrows.  Good luck.
20:10 < Leynos> Is the Wumpus really evil, or is that just a common misconception?
20:10 < meng> It's the prolog that is evil
20:10 < Leynos> yeah
20:10 < Leynos> er
20:11 < Leynos> I never used Prolog ^^;
20:11 < meng> but you did ML
20:11 < Leynos> yeah
20:12 < meng> so as far as being victims of evil Edinburgh programming languages
20:12 < meng> it's about even
20:13 < Electron> oh yeah, we had to automate the finding of the wumpus - I'd forgotton that 
20:14 < Electron> just seeing wump.c has 859 lines of code :)
20:19 < meng> is it just me, or has 'less' broken on scar
20:20 < meng> if I type 'less foo', it just says 'bashrc'
20:20 < meng> but 'cat foo | less' works
20:23 < Leynos> works on scar for me
20:24 < Leynos> Has your configuration altered to support the DICE setup, and in turn broken on the DCS machines?
20:24 < meng> probably
20:25 < meng> it's an evil combination of assorted dcs, dai, and inf hacks, which breaks in different ways in different places
20:26 < meng> thx
20:27 < meng> going to try and do some work now, so catch you all later
20:27 -!- You're now known as meng|away
20:51 < Leynos> Did AI / DCS people get their accounts merged with DICE?
20:52 <@beaneater> they were eaten by the CAKE MONSTER
21:21 < Leynos> Any other Gamecube games I need to get?  So far: Animal Crossing, Beach Spikers, Luigi's Mansion, Metroid Prime, Pikmin, Super Mario Sunshine, and Super Monkey Ball
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00:48 -!- Yoda changed the topic of #compsoc to: Is there anyone there?
03:36 < Electron> ping?
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08:10 <@pajh> pong
08:18 < Electron> http://www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com/ <-- lol
08:19 <@pajh> yeah, 404s are hilarious
08:20 < Electron> works for me
08:21 <@pajh> odd.
08:36 <@pajh> ack. must work
08:52 <@beaneater> ooh
08:52 <@beaneater> somebody talking in #compsoc when it's not the middle of the night
08:53 <@beaneater> it must be a record
08:53 <@beaneater> (you should see the graph)
08:53 <@beaneater> work--
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17:38 -!- There is no such nick #compsoc
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17:48 < pajh> oh bugger. No ops but tef.
17:48 < pajh> WE'RE DOOMED
18:09 < beaneater> oh, was that everybody?
18:09 < beaneater> or did just I bounce
18:18 < pajh> that's what tigers do best.
18:18 < beaneater> raaar!
18:20 -!- You're now known as meng
18:20 < meng> I thought tef was in amsterdam
18:20 < pajh> actually, tiggers don't raaar. They worraworraworraworra.
18:20 < pajh> He is.
18:20 < pajh> Hence, tef-amsterdam.
18:21 < meng> still, he is typing on warspite right now
18:21 < meng> geeks
18:22 < pajh> write his terminal and tell him to come in here and op me.
18:22 < meng> he has mesg n
18:22 < meng> in pine, mail him
18:23 < meng> too late
18:23 <@tef-amsterdam> lo
18:23 < meng> oh no
18:23 < pajh> woo!
18:23 <@tef-amsterdam> amsterdam rocks.
18:24 < pajh> stoned yet?
18:24 -!- tef-amsterdam changed the topic of #compsoc to: amsterdam rocks. your socks.
18:24 <@tef-amsterdam> yes
18:24 <@tef-amsterdam> on a unicyle too
18:24 <@tef-amsterdam> found  the bestest coffeshop - grey area.
18:24 < beaneater> the best?
18:24 < beaneater> surely not
18:25 < beaneater> there are meeeelions
18:28 < beaneater> tef-amsterdam: any chance of oppage? then we can register #compsoc with ChanServ
18:28 < beaneater> (fed up of bloody figlet.)
18:31 <@tef-amsterdam> oh ok
18:31 -!- mode/#compsoc [+o beaneater] by tef-amsterdam
18:33 < pajh> figlet?
18:38 <@beaneater> cheers :)
18:38 -!- mode/#compsoc [+o pajh] by beaneater
18:38 -!- mode/#compsoc [+o meng] by beaneater
18:38 -!- mode/#compsoc [+o Electron] by beaneater
18:38 <@beaneater> dammit I'm stupid
18:39 <@beaneater> figlet is a program for generating annoying things like this:
18:39 <@beaneater> 15:55 <@pinkj>  _____ ___ ____ _____ ___ _   _  ____
18:39 <@beaneater> 15:55 <@pinkj> |  ___|_ _/ ___|_   _|_ _| \ | |/ ___|
18:39 <@beaneater> 15:55 <@pinkj> | |_   | |\___ \ | |  | ||  \| | |  _
18:39 <@beaneater> 15:55 <@pinkj> |  _|  | | ___) || |  | || |\  | |_| |
18:39 <@beaneater> 15:55 <@pinkj> |_|   |___|____/ |_| |___|_| \_|\____|
18:39 <@beaneater> 15:55 <@pinkj>
18:39 -!- mode/#compsoc [+b *!justin@void.printf.net] by tef-amsterdam
18:39 <@meng> 'banner' is more annoying
18:39 -!- beaneater was kicked from #compsoc by pajh [flood! heheheheh.]
18:40 <@pajh> THE POWER!
18:40 <@tef-amsterdam> hahah
18:40 -!- mode/#compsoc [-o+h pajh pajh] by tef-amsterdam
18:40 -!- mode/#compsoc [-o+h meng meng] by tef-amsterdam
18:40 -!- mode/#compsoc [-o+h Electron Electron] by tef-amsterdam
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18:40 < beaneater> that was lame
18:40 <%pajh> sorry, friend.
18:41 -!- mode/#compsoc [+h beaneater] by tef-amsterdam
18:41 <%pajh> But DAMN that felt good.
18:41 <@tef-amsterdam> muahah
18:41 <%beaneater> wtf is +h?
18:41 <@tef-amsterdam> you can topic and kick.
18:41 <%pajh> What's a half-op?
18:41 <%beaneater> ah
18:41 <@tef-amsterdam> heheh
18:41 -!- tef-amsterdam is now known as tef
18:41 <%pajh> Dammit, I'm Communications Officer. I need the power.
18:42 <%meng> To distance yourself from the proletariat?
18:42 <@tef> have registered
18:42 <@tef> and you can +v -v 
18:42 <@tef> see. evil me.
18:43 <%pajh> My hot geek chix0r just pointed out the debt the postfix increment owes to Newspeak
18:43 -!- mode/#compsoc [-h beaneater] by beaneater
18:43 <%pajh> and now I can never code again.
18:43 <%pajh> Just thought I'd share.
18:43 < beaneater> um. heh.
18:44 <@tef> anyway
18:44 <@tef> bye!
18:45 -!- mode/#compsoc [-o+h tef tef] by tef
18:45 <%meng> don't do anything illegal
18:45 <%tef> i wont.
18:45 <%pajh> if ( thoughtcrime() ) { ++ungood } ;
18:45 < beaneater> what's the point of ChanServ if you can't (half)op without fussing?
18:46 <%pajh> Damn. I need milk and I can't leave the flat.
18:46 <%pajh> Somebody bring me a pint of silver top.
18:46 <%pajh> I'll pay you back.
18:47 < beaneater> you're glued to your chair?
18:47 <%pajh> I'll invalidate the warranty on my new shoes.
18:49 <%meng> don't you have any othersd
18:49 <%pajh> Yes, silly.
18:49 <%meng> then!
18:49 <%pajh> But I'm breaking this pair in.
19:01 <%pajh> s'ok. I made Gary go for me.
19:08 <%meng> when's Alex back, this weekend?
19:09 <%pajh> The 14th, I think.
19:09 <%pajh> Montag
19:09 <%meng> hope you got your masks ready
19:10 <%pajh> I emailed him a week ago. Haven't heard from him.
19:29 <%meng> back later
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00:03 <%meng|away> ey up
00:03 < Yoda> yo everyone
00:03 -!- You're now known as meng
00:04 < Yoda> what's da chat?
00:04 <%meng> no chat on this page since half seven
00:04 <%meng> i think there's a chat famine
00:04 <%pajh> I have just watched the episode of Avengers where Emma Peel leaves.
00:04 <%pajh> Agh!
00:04 <%pajh> Words fail me.
00:05 <%pajh> Way to strike a blow for women's emancipation everywhere.
00:05 < Yoda> My little sister says HI!
00:05 <%meng> Err. Hi
00:05 <%pajh> You have a sister?
00:05 <%pajh> Oh, wait, yes you do.
00:05 <%pajh> Hi.
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00:09 < Klxh> damn dialup connection
00:09 < Klxh> so, what is da chat?
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00:09 <%pajh> I have just watched the episode of Avengers where Emma Peel leaves.
00:10 <%pajh> That's da chat.
00:10 < Klxh> the Avengers? cool
00:10 <%pajh> Although I seem to be talking to myself.
00:10 -!- Klxh is now known as Yoda
00:10 <%meng> is that the same one stuck in the DVD player
00:10 <%pajh> It's no longer stuck. And that was the film.
00:10 <%pajh> I'm annoyed now.
00:11 < beaneater> shame
00:11 < beaneater> shame shame shame
00:11 < Yoda> how weird is this, some girl wants to come and train with me over the summer ...
00:11 <%pajh> shame?
00:11 < Yoda> randomness - compounded
00:11 <%pajh> Is she cute?
00:11 < beaneater> Yoda: you're in there
00:11 < beaneater> eh what
00:11  * Yoda just checking email
00:12 < Yoda> no idea
00:12 < Yoda> she's just emailed me, and i emailed back
00:12 <%meng> wow
00:12 < Yoda> and now she wants to give me her number when she gets here
00:12 <%meng> you must have reached celeb status
00:12 < Yoda> oh yeah ... defo
00:12 < beaneater> kate, you've pulled
00:13 <%meng> soon you'll be fighting off the groupies
00:13 < beaneater> I'll stop now
00:13 < Yoda> I really have no answer to that
00:13 < Yoda> apart from ...
00:13  * Yoda slaps beaneater around a bit with a large trout
00:13 <%pajh> Does no one care about my pain?
00:13 < beaneater> pajh: yes, I care about it
00:13  * beaneater whips pajh
00:13  * beaneater whips pajh
00:14 < Yoda> lol
00:14 <%pajh> Emma Peel. Not only did she leave, but she did so in the MOST FUCKING PATHETIC WAY.
00:14 < Yoda> what kind of whipping is this?
00:15 -!- Yoda changed the topic of #compsoc to: What would the world be like without the Diffie-Hellman protocol?
00:16 < Yoda> 40 emails and only 4 aren't junk
00:16 -!- mode/#compsoc [+h beaneater] by meng
00:16 -!- mode/#compsoc [+h Yoda] by meng
00:17 <%meng> percent signs should be equal for all
00:17 <%Yoda> does it hurt?
00:17 <%meng> only a little
00:17 <%meng> as for the whipping, i have no idea
00:17 <%Yoda> ok, then
00:17 <%Yoda> i hesitate to think ...
00:18 <%Yoda> i'm supposed to be working ...
00:18 <%Yoda> but i'm here instead, is that bad?
00:18 <%pajh> hmm. two emails, one spam, one admin request I can't be bothered to deal with.
00:18 <%pajh> does the word(s) FINALS WEEK mean anything to you?
00:18 <%beaneater> fuck
00:18 <%beaneater> it's that time already?
00:18 <%beaneater> ;)
00:18 <%Yoda> most of my revision is done
00:18 <%Yoda> just need to make notes of my notes
00:19 <%beaneater> I didn't do much revision today
00:19 <%Yoda> and transfer them onto index cards
00:19 <%beaneater> tbe *what*?
00:19 <%beaneater> the what ?
00:19 <%Yoda> i went through 10 lecture notes of modSim yesterday - out of 17
00:19 <%Yoda> you know, little cards
00:19 <%Yoda> so it's easiler to read than off an A4 page
00:20 <%Yoda> I've been doing it since High school
00:20 <%Yoda> all I have to do is remember the info now
00:21 <%beaneater> I couldn't do that
00:21 <%beaneater> not how I work
00:21 <%Yoda> oh, and I installed vim last night too
00:21 <%Yoda> i'm sure there's something wrong with vim on WinXP
00:21 <%pajh> you also have to condense the info down into byte-size little four-inch cards
00:21 <%pajh> whichis often impossible
00:21 <%pajh> and it's a lossy compression format
00:21 <%Yoda> you break the info up
00:22 <%Yoda> plus, its like one bit per card, i just find it easier that's all
00:22 <%beaneater> businessy people ;)
00:22 <%Yoda> lol
00:22 <%pajh> Card 1. This is a computar.
00:22 <%beaneater> no, I do have my methods, but they are few
00:22 <%pajh> Card 2. Coding is good.
00:23 <%pajh> card 3. Software engineering SUCKS.
00:23 <%beaneater> for these exams, I have had two (2) coloured pens, in addition to my standard black pen
00:23 <%Yoda> that's why i didn't do SEOC2
00:23 <%pajh> Card 4. The Rational Unified Process is a steaming pile of meaningless, productivity-destroying, management-buzzword-infested (pto)
00:23 <%Yoda> i mean, it was a difficult choice, Dave Robertson being so irrestible an all
00:23 <%beaneater> the particular pen-choice algorithm actually matters less than the fact that they go well together to draw the eye
00:24 <%beaneater> although consistency is nice
00:24 <%Yoda> sounds good
00:24 <%Yoda> but this is all made easier by the fact that i only have 4 exams now
00:24 <%Yoda> and 2 more after the disseration
00:24 <%Yoda> so it's all spread out
00:25 <%Yoda> btw, i know we talked about this before, but is anyone really up for trout eating night
00:25 <%Yoda> ?
00:26 <%Yoda> i found another one in the freezer at home today, turns out when my mum said she cooked it, it was actually a lie to make me feel better
00:26 <%Yoda> in fact, it was just sitting in the bottom of a freezer
00:26 <%Yoda> it's a 3lb-er, nice big fish
00:26 <%pajh> I have a question first:
00:27 <%pajh> why would your mum /not/ cook it?
00:27 <%Yoda> so now I have 3 trouts to get rid off
00:27 <%Yoda> turns out she thought it was a salmon fish
00:27 <%Yoda> and she doesn't like salmon
00:27 <%Yoda> then i explained to her it was a rainbow trout
00:27 <%Yoda> but she disagreed
00:28 <%Yoda> and she just didn't want to
00:28 <%Yoda> i thought about keeping it frozen for ever, after all, it was the first ever fish i had ever caught
00:28 <%Yoda> but i have no freezer space
00:29 <%Yoda> there's nothing wrong with it, in case anyone thinks that
00:29 <%meng> it is in one fish, or steaks
00:29 <%meng> is it, i mean, damn question inversion
00:29 <%Yoda> is it whole you mean?
00:29 <%meng> yeah
00:29 <%pajh> what's the difference between trout, salmon, and salmon trout?
00:30 <%pajh> inquiring minds need to know.
00:30 <%pajh> okay, want to know.
00:30 <%pajh> I can live without knowing.
00:30 <%pajh> But if you know, and you know I want to know, I'd appreciate it if you'd let me know.
00:30 <%Yoda> one question at a time ...
00:30 <%meng> lol
00:30 <%pajh> ...I think.
00:31 <%Yoda> michael, the first fish is, the 3ib-er and the rest is in steaks
00:31 <%Yoda> you saw it that night - remember
00:31 <%Yoda> that was the smaller fish in bits
00:31 <%Yoda> Paul, in regards to your question
00:31  * pajh waits with bated breath
00:31 <%Yoda> there's brown trout, rainbow trout and salmon in scotland
00:32 <%pajh> bated? baited! Bwaaaah hah hah.
00:32 <%meng> badum-ch
00:32 <%Yoda> brown trout and salmon is natural
00:32 <%pajh> natural?
00:32 <%Yoda> rainbow is only used for sport fishing
00:32 <%pajh> like not GENETICALLY ENGINEERED MOSTROSITIES?
00:32 <%Yoda> as in, orginates here
00:32 <%pajh> oh.
00:32 <%Yoda> nothing like that
00:33 <%pajh> Damn. I was hoping for evil cyberfish of doooooom.
00:33 <%Yoda> so rainbow season is all year long
00:33 <%Yoda> the taste between them? i don't know to be honest
00:33 <%Yoda> apart from salmon
00:33 <%Yoda> and that's great
00:33 <%Yoda> the prices are different tho
00:34 <%Yoda> one day's rainbow fishing is around 15 quid, brown - 20-30quid, and salmon is 50-100 quid
00:34 <%Yoda> but salmon fishing can cost up for 250 quid a day
00:35 <%beaneater> that's because the salmon are all rich
00:35 <%beaneater> taking their cut
00:35 <%Yoda> and there's no promise that you'll catch one
00:35 <%beaneater> for the performance
00:35 <%Yoda> that's the problem
00:35 <%beaneater> Yoda: but you do get to be snooty to the trout fishermen
00:35 <%meng> why don't they cost on how much you catch
00:35 <%Yoda> beaneater: lol, you're right
00:36 <%Yoda> because it's easier to make money depending on what you don't
00:36 <%Yoda> there's 2 types, catch and release, or 2/3/4 fish and then catch and release
00:36 <%Yoda> that's self explaintory, right?
00:37 <%pajh> Try WD-40.
00:37 <%meng> yes, even i understood your fish lingo
00:37 <%meng> spray the fish with WD-40?
00:37 <%pajh> "Fish Lingo" wbaxnfarb.,
00:37 <%Yoda> on our first fishing trip, 8 of us went, we only caught 6 fish between us
00:37 <%meng> stops them from freezing up in cold weather, I suppose
00:37 <%Yoda> and we all paid 15 quid up front
00:37 <%pajh> Spray the /bait/ with WD-40. The fish go mad for it.
00:37 <%Yoda> really?
00:38 <%pajh> They'll be leaping into the net. Like that Russ Abbott advert.
00:38 <%Yoda> does it really work?
00:38 <%pajh> Trust me.
00:38 <%meng> Would you trust him?
00:38 <%Yoda> cool, i heard that ...
00:38 <%Yoda> no, i shouldn't say
00:38 <%pajh> I have heard tell from various different sources of the fish-luring miracle of WD-40.
00:38 <%Yoda> too confusing to explain online
00:38 <%Yoda> i'll try that
00:38 <%Yoda> apart from the fact that we all fly fish
00:39 <%beaneater> fly fishing is fun
00:39 <%Yoda> and i've never used bait before, but when i do, i will
00:39 <%pajh> Note that you'll be poisoning the fish and polluting the environment and fuck knows what else at the same time.
00:39 <%beaneater> though I never did catch diddly squat compared to other fishing
00:39 <%pajh> How do you fish without bait?
00:39 <%Yoda> you trick the fish into thinking the hook is a fly/insect
00:39 <%beaneater> use things which look scrummy to stupid fish
00:40 <%Yoda> different colours, different patterns
00:40 <%Yoda> you only have to get the right fly and you'll be catching for hours
00:41 <%Yoda> have the wrong one and stand there for hours
00:41 <%beaneater> but it gives you something to talk about
00:41 <%beaneater> your flies
00:41 <%Yoda> it is
00:41 <%beaneater> and the flies you've been tying, and blah balh blah blah blah
00:41 <%pajh> So that's fly fishing, then.
00:42 <%pajh> I would consider a fly to fall into the category of `bait'
00:42 <%pajh> But then I'm not a fisherman.
00:42 <%Yoda> but bait is short for live-bait
00:42 <%pajh> Read: I'm not a LOSER FISHERMAN FREAK WITH NO LIFE
00:42 <%meng> miaow
00:43 <%beaneater> not fished for so long
00:43  * Yoda puts saucer of milk in the corner
00:43 <%beaneater> I should go stand in a river some time
00:43 <%Yoda> when did u start?
00:43 <%pajh> All I know about fly fishing is from, yes, that one episode of the Avengers with the fly fishing in it.
00:43 <%beaneater> moi?
00:44 <%pajh> toi.
00:44 <%beaneater> I used to do it with my dad when I was younger
00:44 <%beaneater> fishing
00:44 <%pajh> *stifled snigger*
00:44 <%beaneater> hah, pre-empted you there 
00:44 <%beaneater> see how you like that
00:44 <%beaneater> sucker
00:44 <%pajh> I was too busy stifling the actual snigger to type.
00:44 <%Yoda> that's pretty cool, my dad never did anything like that with me
00:44 <%pajh> *stifled snigger*
00:45 <%Yoda> he was an addicted gambler, so i know about different jockeys, and famous racehorses
00:45 <%beaneater> oh lovely
00:45 <%Yoda> but i think fishing is more fun
00:45 <%pajh> Shergar. Desert Orchid. Lester Piggott.
00:45 <%beaneater> no we did some fun stuff like that
00:45 <%beaneater> barely speaking just now
00:45 <%pajh> Feel your childhood flooding back.
00:45 <%Yoda> why not?
00:45 <%Yoda> not because of bad stuff is it?
00:46 <%beaneater> not really
00:46 <%Yoda> that's ok then
00:46 <%beaneater> just the general thinking I could do better with my life etc.
00:46 <%beaneater> you know, the usual
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00:47 <%Yoda> parent's have such high expectations
00:47 <%Yoda> hey Dave
00:47 <%Yoda> it's actually me
00:47 <%pajh> Who's thinking that?
00:47 <%Yoda> and not Michael in disguise
00:47 <%pajh> You or him?
00:47 <%Yoda> ?
00:48 <%meng> ditto
00:48 <%Yoda> the pokemon?
00:48 <%pajh> Who thinks that beaneater could do better with his life?
00:48 <%pajh> Jeez.
00:48 <%Yoda> i think he's doing fine, to be honest
00:48 <%pajh> Answer the question.
00:49 < Leynos> Hi
00:49 <%Yoda> no, i personally don't think so
00:49 <%meng> it's a loaded question
00:49 <%Yoda> but i don't know him well enough
00:49 < Leynos> pajh: not me
00:49 <%Yoda> someone's trying to avoid the question - Michael
00:49 <%meng> what was it
00:49 <%pajh> <beaneater> just the general thinking I could do better with my life etc.
00:50 <%Yoda> someone give Leynos a % too
00:50 <%meng> i think nicks doing pretty well, right
00:50 -!- mode/#compsoc [+v Leynos] by meng
00:51 <%Yoda> was that with or without sacrasm?
00:51 <%pajh> Who is doing this general thinking?
00:51 <%meng> without.  better than a lot of us
00:51 <%beaneater> no, not uni. like I should have a direction after uni. oh and my love life
00:52 <%pajh> But who's thinking?
00:52 <%Yoda> i have nothing to add to that conversation
00:52 <+Leynos> Hah.  no ops again?
00:52 -!- mode/#compsoc [-v+h Leynos Leynos] by meng
00:52 <%beaneater> pajh: I am your father
00:52 <%beaneater> er
00:52 <%beaneater> no
00:52 <%beaneater> IYSWIm
00:52 <%pajh> I thought not.
00:52 <%beaneater> my father
00:52 <%beaneater> I am my father
00:52 <%Leynos> +h?
00:52 <%pajh> You are your won father?
00:52 <%Yoda> i'm confused
00:52 <%pajh> half-op
00:52 <%beaneater> tef was scroungy and gave us all halfops
00:53 <%Yoda> what? like lister in red dwarf?
00:53 <%beaneater> pajh: you'v enever watched red dwarf?
00:53 <%beaneater> damn you Yoda
00:53 <%Yoda> i've read all the books
00:53 <%beaneater> Yoda: I have to admit it, you have watched red dwarf
00:53 <%Yoda> and seen all the eps
00:53 <%pajh> "and Kris is my ex-girlfriend and my mum". That would be cool.
00:53 <%Yoda> and have the script books
00:53 <%Yoda> it is rather sad
00:53 <%beaneater> script books? geek.
00:53  * Leynos 's shitty IRC client doesn't know what a half-op is :(
00:53 <%Yoda> i know
00:53 <%beaneater> must buy S2 DVDs though
00:54  * beaneater laughs at Leynos 
00:54 <%Yoda> download them ;)
00:54 <%beaneater> "haha"
00:54 <%beaneater> Yoda: no, it's worth actual DVDs
00:54 <%beaneater> I mean I have VHS
00:54 <%Yoda> Dave, Nick, do you have that advert from the Systems Design project?
00:54 <%Yoda> the one made by Colin and Max
00:54 <%Yoda> for the end presentation
00:55 <%pajh> with the kid saying, "Cooool!"
00:55 <%Yoda> yeah, that one, i want Paul to see it
00:55 <%meng> i wanna see too
00:56 <%Yoda> it is soooo good
00:56 <%beaneater> nah
00:56 <%beaneater> I don't
00:56 <%Yoda> might have to speak to Colin then
00:56 <%pajh> I must see!
00:56 <%beaneater> get him to email you it ;)
00:56 <%pajh> beaneater: who is doing thinking about how your lifemight be better?
00:56 <%beaneater> but seriously, I'm sure he'd burn it onto a CD for you
00:57 <%beaneater> pajh: my father 
00:57 <%beaneater> but not really
00:57 <%Yoda> yeah, i'll have to talk to him
00:57 <%pajh> It's not up to your father to make your life choices for you.
00:57 <%beaneater> I just haven't really been speaking to him much this year
00:57 <%pajh> And you seem to be doing pretty well to me.
00:57 <%beaneater> like maybe twice
00:57 <%pajh> And to everyone else here.
00:57 <%meng> yeah
00:58 <%beaneater> yeah well, more the love life crap (it is too complicated)
00:58 <%Yoda> parent's say the funniest things
00:58 <%Yoda> my mum was convinced for the whole of first year that because i was in a rugby team, i was gay
00:58 <%Yoda> for the entire year
00:58 <%pajh> And you are still young---younger than me, AIUI---and those things that might be missing will doubtless display themselves in due course.
00:58 <%pajh> Tell your father to shut the fuck up, from me.
00:58 <%beaneater> Yoda: http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif
00:59 <%beaneater> missing?
00:59 <%beaneater> what's missing?
00:59 <%pajh> I don't know. You tell me.
00:59 <%beaneater> I'm happy
00:59 <%pajh> Or get your father to tell you, since he seems to know.
00:59 <%Yoda> beaneater: thanks, very informative
01:00 <%beaneater> Yoda: sorry
01:00 <%beaneater> But please, it's painful :(
01:00 <%beaneater> (I do know I'm anal, don't worry.)
01:00 <%Yoda> oh, i get it now
01:01 <%Yoda> yeah, sorry
01:01 <%pajh> (the association for the abolition of the aberrant apostrophe)++
01:01 <%meng> they call it "grocer's apostrophe" in the lit, how patronising can you be
01:02 <%beaneater> to grocer's?
01:02 <%pajh> fuck grocers.
01:02 <%meng> although the baker down the road had a sign FRANCI'S IRVINE
01:03 <%beaneater> pajh: if they're cute
01:03 <%Yoda> hey Michael, i've had a change of heart on those tv shirts
01:03 <%Yoda> i think if we do it tastfully enough, it might be ok
01:03 <%meng> i think you are fast turning into a geek Kate, first vi, now t-shirts
01:04 <%meng> Excellent.
01:04 <%Yoda> i was up until 4.30am last night making a information flow diagram for my project
01:04 <%Yoda> does that qualify as well?
01:04 <%Yoda> there's loads of postit notes as well
01:05 <%pajh> postit notes are Management. Not geek.
01:05 <%Leynos> Kate uses vi?
01:05 <%pajh> Ungeek
01:05 <%Leynos> cool
01:05 <%Yoda> all inspired by Dave and Kevin
01:05 <%pajh> _I_ don't use vi, but that's because I'm SANE
01:06 <%meng> you used to
01:06 <%Leynos> Postit notes are meant to be used as page markers
01:06 <%meng> post it notes are for decorating computer monitors
01:06 <%Yoda> with notes like "password"
01:06 <%Yoda> eh, Michael?
01:06 <%Leynos> heh
01:06 <%meng> that was for my sister
01:07 <%meng> so unfair
01:07 <%Yoda> that's what they *all* say
01:07 <%Yoda> i have 3 brothers and sisters, and we don't have notes like that
01:07 <%Yoda> on any of the 3 computers we share
01:07 <%meng> why not
01:07 <%Leynos> Later. Off to play Taiko No Tatsujin Doki
01:07 <%meng> wozzat
01:07 <%Yoda> later Dave
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01:08 <%Yoda> because ... we just dont need them
01:08 <%pajh> Taiko No... something something.
01:08 <%meng> because you run windows, just hit escape to log in
01:09 <%Yoda> we're not clever enough to do that either
01:09 <%meng> so what do you do then
01:09 <%Yoda> just remember it
01:10 <%Yoda> how else
01:10 <%Yoda> so ... these t-shirts
01:10 <%meng> that's what post it notes are for, so you don't have to remember everything
01:10 <%Yoda> what's the chat?
01:11 <%meng> first, what colour
01:11 <%Yoda> let's drop the subject, not interesting enough
01:11 <%Yoda> black
01:11 <%Yoda> with white text
01:11 <%meng> green text
01:11 <%meng> green on black !
01:11 <%Yoda> well, alright
01:11 <%Yoda> what do you want on it?
01:11 <%Yoda> EU Compsoc
01:12 <%Yoda> with the EU logo?
01:12 <%meng> boring
01:12 <%meng> we need some visual in-joke
01:12 <%meng> what in-jokes do we have in compsoc 
01:12 <%beaneater> why T-Shirts?
01:12 <%Yoda> i dont think we have any
01:12 <%Yoda> in-jokes that is
01:13 <%Yoda> not t-shirts
01:13 <%beaneater> T-Shirts for an event?
01:13 <%Yoda> i think we should go on tour
01:13 <%meng> lol
01:13 <%Yoda> but i don't know where
01:13 <%Yoda> or why
01:13 <%meng> COMPSOC: ON THE ROAD
01:13 <%beaneater> are we going to have a whole bunch of people in identical t-shirts in next freshers week? (excepting kate, unless you visit)
01:14 <%beaneater> (go on, you know you want to0
01:14 <%Yoda> hopefully, I'll be drinking in another fresher's week
01:14 <%beaneater> yay
01:14 <%beaneater> initiate the initiates
01:14 <%Yoda> at another uni
01:14 <%Yoda> but, not really sure whether that would happen
01:14 <%beaneater> ah
01:14 <%Yoda> COMPSOC: ON THE ROAD
01:14 <%meng> the idea of the t-shirts was more to commemorate the 'compsoc old gang'
01:15 <%Yoda> we can bring a camera along
01:15 <%Yoda> a camcorder along even
01:15 <%meng> COMPSOC: THE ROAD MOVIE
01:15 <%beaneater> go on, you know you want to come and celebrate old times next year; unless they coincide?
01:15 <%beaneater> meng: ah, I see
01:15 <%beaneater> old gang stuff
01:15 <%Yoda> we have to personalise each one
01:15 <%beaneater> how many was the initial membership at the first meeting btw?
01:15 <%beaneater> or rather who?
01:16 <%Yoda> loads, but no one came back
01:16 <%meng> depends whether you count the ones we made up ..
01:16 <%beaneater> heh
01:16 <%Yoda> i think we ended with about 7/8
01:16 <%beaneater> it was way later by the time I even knew there was a compsoc, somehow I missed it
01:17 <%Yoda> the compsoc old gang just represents the committee that year, that's all
01:17 <%Yoda> i think?
01:17 <%Yoda> did you do anything that year Michael?
01:17 <%Yoda> i can't remember
01:17 <%meng> i was sec
01:17 <%beaneater> meng: hey
01:17 <%Yoda> that was it
01:17 <%Yoda> yeah
01:17 <%beaneater> why don't we have a permanent secretary post?
01:18 <%Yoda> and we're just missing Simon
01:18 <%meng> we do, it's alex
01:18 <%Yoda> lol
01:18 <%meng> is he part of the old gang
01:18 <%meng> almost
01:18 <%Yoda> no, not really
01:18 <%beaneater> meng: exactly, I'd be surprised if he wasn't next year 
01:18 <%Yoda> because if he is, i think nick and Dave would qualify first
01:18 <%beaneater> oh ignore me anyway
01:18 <%beaneater> I'm just waiting for chipsteaks
01:19 <%Yoda> can I be an honourary (sp?) member when i leave?
01:20 <%meng> life member?
01:20 <%beaneater> of course the new Movers and Shakers had better get good new blood this year
01:20 <%Yoda> yeah, Compsoc member - for life
01:20 <%beaneater> exactly what does membership provide that non-membership doesn't?
01:20 <%Yoda> er ...
01:20 <%meng> a -£2 credit
01:20 <%Yoda> something to put on my CS
01:20 <%Yoda> CV
01:21 <%beaneater> Will EUSA let you do that? I mean they mandate minimum wossnames after all
01:21 <%meng> eusa blah blah
01:21 <%Yoda> apart from that, another t-shirt?
01:21 <%beaneater> but maybe if it's somehow distinct from actual membership it's allowed
01:22 <%beaneater> meng: yeah, I know we never pay attention to them anyway
01:22 <%beaneater> and they don't give a shit either
01:22 <%meng> that would be bad, since i've never been a member then
01:22 <%meng> of compsoc, that is
01:22 <%beaneater> Heh, committee member but not member?
01:22 <%Yoda> man of contradictions
01:23 <%pajh> um. Someone want to summarise the last five minutes for me? Was flirting.
01:23 <%Yoda> nothing of use
01:23 <%meng> love it the way you have to drop that in paul
01:23 <%meng> anyway, about these t-shirts
01:24 <%Yoda> yes, t-shirts
01:24 <%Yoda> well?
01:24 <%pajh> Flirting, unsuccessfully. Next cheap dig?
01:24 <%meng> it's got to have something different on it, just 'COMPSOC' is boring
01:24 <%pajh> I like `geek chic'
01:24 <%Yoda> Paul, at least you're trying
01:25 <%pajh> Sometimes very trying, I know.
01:25 <%Yoda> that's better than nothing
01:26 <%Yoda> Michael - t-shirts?
01:26 <%meng> i'm thinking ....
01:27 <%Yoda> resisting attempt to make joke
01:27 <%meng> i knew you were
01:28 <%meng> 01:26 Yoda [Yoda@195.149.1.136] requested CTCP PING from meng: 1050107207
01:28 <%meng> eh?
01:29 <%Electron> yay, let's copy gamesoc and have t-shirts
01:29 <%Electron> :)
01:29 <%meng> gamesoc have t-shirts?
01:29 <%Electron> yep
01:29 <%Electron> EUGS
01:29 <%meng> what do they say
01:29 <%meng> just EUGS?
01:29 <%Electron> they've got E U G S on them, and maybe the old gamesoc logo with the pacman character
01:30 <%Electron> they're thinking of redesigning them tho9ugh
01:31 <%meng> can we say "old gang", or is that too sad?
01:31 <%beaneater> that's sad
01:31 <%beaneater> so appropriate
01:31 <%beaneater> ;)
01:31 <%Yoda> but that's the thing
01:31 <%beaneater> how about "sad bastards"
01:31 <%Yoda> is it just for us 4, or for all of compsoc?
01:32 <%meng> i think it should be for all compsoc
01:32 <%Yoda> if its just for me, you, Mark and Paul
01:32 <%Yoda> then we can personalise them
01:32 <%beaneater> maybe do two designs?
01:32 <%beaneater> or a standard design wtih some personalised extras 
01:32 <%beaneater> for the Founders
01:32 <%Yoda> if its all of compsoc, then we can't have just "old gang" on them
01:32 <%Yoda> cos on everyone is in the old gang
01:32 <%Yoda> cos not everyone is in the old gang
01:32 <%meng> i wasn't going to have JUST "old gang"
01:32 <%pajh> `old gang' tshirts would be stupid.
01:33 <%beaneater> so waht I said
01:33 <%pajh> Stupid, do you hear me? STUPID.
01:33 <%meng> yeah yeah
01:33 <%beaneater> do a basic design, and then add something that says old gang somehow
01:33 <%pajh> Exactly. What beaneater said.
01:33 <%beaneater> and then we can move and shake .inf ;)
01:34 <%beaneater> gah I'm becoming an emoticon whore, like I've gone off the scale and come back on at the other end
01:34 <%meng> the fashion icons we'll be
01:34 <%beaneater> I should leave #shitchat
01:34 <%Yoda> i dread to think
01:35 <%meng> what did we have on those posters we put up before
01:35 <%Yoda> i don't remember
01:35 <%Yoda> i deleted them
01:35 <%meng> kate you wrote them, maybe I have them somewhere, hang on
01:35 <%meng> i keep everything, remember
01:36 <%meng> bah, word document!
01:36 <%Yoda> i was young
01:37 <%meng> GEEKS ANONYMOUS
01:37 <%Yoda> before i discovered LaTeX
01:37 <%meng> Windows playing 
01:37 <%meng> up again?
01:37 <%meng> Linux not accepting 
01:37 <%meng> your input?
01:37 <%meng> Fallen out with your flatmates because you prefer SUN OS?
01:37 <%meng> We can help.
01:37 <%meng> http://www.ed.ac.uk/~compsoc/
01:37 <%Yoda> I thought of one:
01:37 <%Yoda> GAMESOC SUCKS
01:37 <%Yoda> JOIN US
01:37 <%Yoda> RESISTANCE IS FUTILE
01:37 <%Yoda> http://www.ed.ac.uk/~compsoc/
01:38 <%beaneater> GEEKS ANONYMOUS is better
01:38 <%beaneater> for tee
01:38 <%meng> NEED TO SATISFY YOUR THIRST?
01:38 <%meng> GOT TO BOOST YOUR
01:38 <%meng> GEEK POINTS?
01:38 <%meng> WANT TO DO BOTH AT 
01:38 <%meng> THE SAME TIME?
01:38 <%meng> T WORRY. 
01:38 <%meng> PEARTREE HOUSE
01:38 <%meng> 3.00PM, EVERY WEDNESDAY
01:38 <%meng> http://www.ed.ac.uk/~compsoc/
01:38 <%beaneater> geek points
01:38 <%beaneater> heh
01:38 <%Yoda> i liked that one
01:39 <%Yoda> why i didn't go into marketing, i'll never know
01:39  * Yoda sniggers
01:40 <%beaneater> I know, I look funny
01:40 <%beaneater> don't rub it in
01:41 <%Yoda> well Michael?
01:41 <%beaneater> oh, as to who said we officially never stop meeting, "During term time the Society meets: [...]"
01:42 <%meng> geeks anonymous could work
01:43 <%beaneater> it should actually say our proper name too though
01:43 <%beaneater> not leave the suspense
01:43 <%meng> compsoc:/old_gang/yoda
01:43 <%meng> compsoc:/old_gang/$NAME
01:43 <%Yoda> no injoke?
01:43 <%meng> what injokes do we have
01:43 <%beaneater> mention that we're a subsidiary of GeekSoc
01:45 <%Yoda> Stevie, Stevie, I demand we mention Stevie
01:45 <%Yoda> and the Appleton Tower monkeys
01:46 <%Yoda> i have a question
01:46 <%Yoda> do you put comments before or after a statment?
01:46 <%Yoda> as in comments before that line of code
01:47 <%Yoda> or underneath that line of code
01:47 <%meng> i usually before
01:47 <%beaneater> before or on the same line
01:47 <%beaneater> because if you were writing a comment before a block of code, it would go before
01:47 <%beaneater> like two lines would have a comment before, so one line with a comment after would be confusing, and you'd have to move it if you added another line there
01:47 <%Electron> Yoda: enough of the 'old gang' already!
01:48 <%Electron> amd meng too
01:48 <%Electron> geeks anonymous could be goof
01:48 <%Electron> *ood
01:48 <%Electron> *good
01:49 <%meng> geeks anonymous on front, compsoc logo on back ?
01:49 <%Yoda> beaneater: thanks
01:49 <%Yoda> what logo?
01:49 <%meng> the one mark calls "industrial"
01:50 <%meng> we never really used it though, and it's not much of a logo
01:50 <%meng> cf web page
01:51 <%beaneater> well then we don't have a logo
01:51 <%beaneater> go find a graphic designer
01:51 <%beaneater> oh and I wish the CompSoc website was better
01:51 <%beaneater> (and didn't mention earwig)
01:52 <%meng> it was written in a night, or thereabouts
01:52 <%beaneater> yeah
01:53 <%beaneater> if it didn't make me feel guilty for not doing revision, I'd offer to do something
01:53 <%meng> those old committee minutes need to be excised !
01:53 <%beaneater> why?
01:53 <%pajh> why?
01:53 <%beaneater> hmm, last minutes 15 may 2002
01:54 <%meng> The Committee now break for THE WEAKEST LINK: CHAMPIONS EDITION!!
01:54 <%beaneater> when I left
01:54 <%pajh> meng++
01:54 <%pajh> just what I had in mind.
01:54 <%pajh> I have to prod Alex to post all the other minutes.
01:54 <%pajh> If he still has them.
01:54 <%beaneater> has there been a GM yet?
01:55 <%beaneater> I really haven't been around come to think of it
01:55 <%meng> there was a new eusa regulation this year saying AGMs have to be held end term 2, but everyone ignored it
01:55 <%meng> or so i'm told
01:55 <%beaneater> oops.
01:55 <%beaneater> well 2 weeks at least anyway
01:56 <%meng> hmm, who's for committee
01:56 <%beaneater> it's been the 15/16 may before, we're obviously nasty late poeple
01:56 <%beaneater> appropriate rally
01:57 <%beaneater> really
01:57  * beaneater nominates pajh for the additional post of "Mover and/or Shaker"
01:58 <%meng> How can you shake without moving
01:58 <%Yoda> shaken not stirred
01:58 <%beaneater> my god, compsoc still uses that old password
01:58 <%beaneater> *ahem*
01:59 <%meng> howdya think i got the picture for the time capsule ..
02:00 <%beaneater> why on earth does SpamAssasin on sms not run for internal mail
02:00 <%beaneater> a real bugger for the spam I get through dcs
02:00 <%beaneater> which is now 90% of what I see
02:00 <%meng> they have big trouble with load
02:01 <%beaneater> ah
02:02 <%beaneater> well if official things would stop being sent to my dcs account, I could just junk that
02:02 <%beaneater> as it is the easiest thing would be to forward to an external machine which forwards to sms
02:02 <%beaneater> or maybe I junk on not \.(inf|dcs) I guess
02:03 <%beaneater> and anybody else can go to hell
02:03 <%meng> apparently they will 'soon' run inf and dcs MX via the relay
02:04 <%beaneater> what is soon? next year?
02:05 <%meng> hopefully, after they get round to not mounting my home directory in south bridge
02:05 <%meng> bah
02:05 <%beaneater> heh
02:05 <%beaneater> er I mean "oh no, that's terrible"
02:06 <%beaneater> okay, I won't junk that address, it's the only reason why somebody that I haven't heard a word from/about since school just emailed me
02:07 <%beaneater> (Nothing that wonderful that /she/ did, but now I can contact other people she dumped in the To:)
02:09 <%beaneater> am I spamming the channel now?
02:09 <%pajh> no.
02:10 <%pajh> unless you want me to /kick you again.
02:10 <%pajh> Because last time, it felt gooooooood.
02:11 <%beaneater> teh eusa interweb site sucketh
02:12 <%beaneater> on mozilla the scrolling events renders over the page titles 
02:16 <%beaneater> oh, compsoc is over quota
02:16 <%pajh> again?
02:16 <%pajh> I'll deal with it tomorrow.
02:16 <%meng> could put in for more ..
02:17 <%beaneater> shitty quotas
02:17 <%Yoda> so restrictive
02:17 <%beaneater> I was going to say we should update the website, but there's no point
02:17 <%beaneater> if you get like 40 bytes of space
02:20 <%pajh> Need bigger quota.
02:20 <%meng> how much
02:20 <%pajh> BIGGER
02:21 <%beaneater> this much |<--                     -->|
02:21 <%meng> can't get more if you don't say HOW MUCH
02:21 <%pajh> does spamassassin run on the .ed domain, or just on sms.ed?
02:21 <%beaneater> it runs for .ed
02:21 <%pajh> I have to find out how to use that.
02:21 <%meng> procmail
02:21 <%beaneater> all my stuff goes via n.wolverson@ed
02:21 <%pajh> I think we have a 5K quota atm. I think 10K is fair.
02:21 <%beaneater> yeah, it puts an X-Spam-Level: *************
02:22 <%beaneater> heh
02:22 <%meng> what does quota -v say
02:22 <%pajh> fuck me, I don't know.
02:22 <%meng> i'd rather not
02:22 <%pajh> login and try it.
02:22 <%pajh> no, we haven't changed the password. Ever.
02:23 <%beaneater> nope
02:24 <%meng> 4000k
02:24 <%pajh> I thought it was 5.
02:24 <%pajh> 000.
02:24 <%beaneater> 10M should be more than enough
02:24 <%pajh> eugh... big Ks, little ks.
02:25 <%pajh> If we can do better filtering stuff on the BASTARD email address, then 10M will be enough for a killer website and future expansion.
02:25 <%meng> who's the Responsible Adult for the compsoc account?
02:25 <%beaneater> good point
02:26 <%beaneater> all I know is it's never once been me
02:26 <%pajh> Good question.
02:26 <%pajh> I think it's technically still you, meng.
02:26 <%meng> you're communications officer paul, I'll put you
02:26 <%pajh> But it probably should be me.
02:26 <%beaneater> we might have given you moral right pajh
02:26 <%pajh> But it would be better if it was you, since you know what you're doing.
02:26 <%beaneater> I think that was the case
02:26 <%pajh> So I need you to teach me everything you know.
02:26 <%beaneater> at one point everybody decided that pajh had the moral right but alexp was more likely to write stuff so he could
02:27 <%pajh> I remember that.
02:27 <%pajh> alexp did a load of cool stuff for the site, which is still there.
02:27 <%pajh> He wasn't even committee at the time.
02:27 <%beaneater> yeah
02:27 <%beaneater> has the game been killed yet?
02:27 <%pajh> Needs updating anyway, now the inf homepage links to us.
02:28 <%meng> we have an inf homepage?
02:28 <%pajh> No.
02:28 <%pajh> We don't.
02:28 <%pajh> Inf does.
02:28 <%beaneater> actually the compsoc page points to my website, from which I've moved the out of date stuff on earwig-before-earwig
02:28 <%pajh> True.
02:28 <%pajh> Dead link?
02:28 <%pajh> I'll keep that in mind.
02:28 <%meng> quota up request in queue
02:29 <%pajh> We probably need a decision on whether earwig is officially dead. If so, we can remove all the stuff.
02:29 <%beaneater> Well I think earwig should be put to rest, but that's an Official Decision
02:29 <%beaneater> yeah
02:29 <%pajh> (I still have backups here, though.)
02:29 <%beaneater> but at least put it in context more
02:29 <%beaneater> in fact, may I be permitted to at least edit that page to make clear the obsolescence of the stuff that's not on my website?
02:30 <%pajh> Yeah, go ahead.
02:30 <%pajh> Enough. Bedtime. Flirting's not happening, so there is no reason for me to be conscious.
02:30 <%beaneater> and it must be pointed out that compsoc's not popular, it's only on the second google page for beaneater
02:31  * beaneater winks at pajh
02:31 <%pajh> *thwap*
02:31 <%Yoda> sorry, was that beaneater flirting with pajh?
02:32 <%Yoda> or am i missing something?
02:32 <%pajh> Somehow I doubt it.
02:32 <%Yoda> justn checking
02:32 <%pajh> I hope not. Because there's this hot chick that... never mind.
02:32  * beaneater raises an eyebrow at pajh
02:32 <%beaneater> o.O
02:32  * pajh cuts the eyebrow off and runs away with it
02:32 <%beaneater> no wait, that's not raising an eyebrow at all
02:33 <%meng> ō.ō
02:34 <%beaneater> hmm, I may end up running a meet for a bunch of geek-people in Edinburgh some time this summer (festival time or something). sounds like effort.
02:35 <%Yoda> right kids, i'm off to bed
02:35 <%beaneater> wtf is ss?
02:35 <%beaneater> night yoda
02:35 <%Yoda> bye now
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02:37 <%Electron> something I think compsoc *should* do is provide information about such hacker meets, like 2600, hal 2001 etc
02:37 <%meng> ones in edin?
02:38 <%Electron> anywhere
02:38 <%meng> requires effort to maintain
02:38 <%meng> effort is not something we have in abundance, i suspect
02:38 <%Electron> 2600 is in glasgow, but a couple of months ago a few members of compsoc went along
02:38 <%Electron> yeah
02:38 <%meng> they used to have 2600 in aberdeen
02:39 <%meng> back in the day
02:39 <%Electron> can't imagine aberdonian hackers somehow
02:39 <%beaneater> right
02:40 <%beaneater> doesn't require much effort
02:40 <%beaneater> to maintain, but I'm biased
02:40 <%meng> hackers don't go to 2600 surely
02:40 <%beaneater> given that my home page has 7 screenfuls from the last 4 days
02:41 <%beaneater> some may be hackers, most are probably lame around here
02:41 <%beaneater> I mean doesn't justin go?
02:41 <%Electron> meng - it would appear script kiddies go to 2600
02:41 <%beaneater> 'xactly
02:41 <%Electron> justin, martin, connor, me, and 2 glaswegians turned up a couple of monets
02:42 <%Electron> months ago
02:42 <%Electron> gotta get used to this new keyboard :/
02:42 <%meng> not quite 75%, maybe we should lower the assimilation bar
02:43 <%beaneater> personally I'd have the Compsoc webpage maintinging Home|About|Comittee wherever that is|Studying|Feedback
02:43 <%beaneater> merge Information into Links
02:43 <%beaneater> and have a News thing, which is actually updated
02:43 <%beaneater> by virtue of being easy to update, weblog stylee
02:44 <%Electron> we *really* don't want new members, do we
02:44 <%beaneater> why?
02:44 <%Electron> \Studying\ on the front page
02:44 <%Electron> boooring
02:44 <%Electron> :)
02:44 <%meng> geeks need to know whats geeky
02:44 <%beaneater> but that's the only actual content
02:44 <%beaneater> so it has to stay
02:44 <%Electron> heh, true
02:45 <%Electron> that's quite sad really - the only information we have on the web page is about studying
02:46 <%Electron> not what societies should be about, and other people have told me they see compsoc as being a bit dull
02:46 <%meng> well, and crap about compsoc
02:46 <%meng> thats the impression i got too
02:46 <%beaneater> it does seem dull
02:47 <%meng> but then, i was talking to gamesoc folk
02:47 <%beaneater> yeah
02:47 <%Electron> me too
02:48 <%meng> the point is we are distinct from gamesoc
02:48 <%beaneater> yeah. if we become linked with the division and stuff, we become something different
02:48 <%meng> evil and powerful, i think that's paul's plan
02:48 <%beaneater> yeah
02:49 <%meng> but how else are we going to take over the world
02:49 <%beaneater> anyway the webpages need both a *boom* rehaul and frequent update
02:49 <%beaneater> we may not do much, but it makes it seem *EVEN LESS*
02:50 <%meng> i remember thinking how clever it was to have underlines on hover links
02:50 <%meng> that was cool then, it only worked on mozilla and ie for mac
02:50 <%meng> bleeding edge css
02:50 <%beaneater> oh, it is bad accessability-wise
02:50 <%beaneater> colour blindness, there should be a font styling too on the links in the body
02:51 <%meng> i'm colour blind...
02:51 <%beaneater> really?
02:51 <%meng> red/green like most (colour blind) folk
02:51 <%beaneater> when I say that, in our case it only matters if you see in monochrome, but hey.
02:52 <%beaneater> just been reading accesibility stuff today
02:52 <%beaneater> learned some things. didn't actually know about Alt+Num shortcuts before
03:08 <%beaneater> gah, a brief status is turning into a fscking history lesson
03:14 <%beaneater> Hmm, I seem to have lost a year from my memory
03:14 <%beaneater> odd
03:18 <%meng> bibtex rocks.  i laugh at people who hand format references in inferior word processors.  just thought i would share that with you.
03:19 <%beaneater> yeah
03:19 <%beaneater> aol
03:21 <%beaneater> I'm afraid I'm writing CompSoc: The Game: The History
03:22 <%beaneater> I hope I'm not being biased
03:22 <%meng> Sounds like a saga
03:22 <%beaneater> yeah
03:22 <%beaneater> told after the hero returns home on the back of his sheild
04:07 <%beaneater> right, I just posted to compsoc@holyrood.ed.ac.uk, and revised the game portion of the website. good night
11:37 <%beaneater> pajh: This is for you http://www.privatehand.com/flashanimation/elements.html
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19:12 <%pajh> arrrrrggh. arrrrrrrgh.
19:12 <%pajh> arrrrrrrrrrrrrrggh.
19:12 <%beaneater> argh
19:12 <%beaneater> 11:37 <%beaneater> pajh: This is for you http://www.privatehand.com/flashanimation/elements.html
19:15 <%pajh> beaneater: that sucks.
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19:15 <%pajh> You can't claim originality in a flash animation just by making the words of a fifty-year old song flick up on the screen.
19:15 <%pajh> regardless of the quality of the original song.
19:16 <%beaneater> oh it's not original
19:16 <%beaneater> definately
19:17 <%beaneater> I take it you've seen http://www.btinternet.com/~david.st/b3ta
19:17 <%beaneater> that's slightly more original
19:21 <%pajh> Goddess, that was ages ago.
19:21 <%pajh> Good, though.
19:21 <%beaneater> I know it was
19:21 <%pajh> Bastard sodding flash players for linux.
19:22 <%beaneater> which was why I thought you'd have seen it
19:23 <%pajh> I had, but I'd forgotten about it
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21:07 <%meng> "One day I'll find that peer, and reset his connection!"
21:08 < Electron> heh
21:09 < Electron> the troubles associated with running irc over a tunnel created by two ssh sessions :)
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21:14 < Electron> hmmm, did I ping-out or was my connection reset?
21:14 <%meng> both of you got connection reset
21:15 < beaneater> I fucked my network
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00:33 < pajh> yo, Bruce
00:38 < Electron> hey Paul
00:42 < pajh> Having a flame war with my mother.
00:42 < pajh> Started out fun.
00:43 < Electron> ooh, high-tech
00:46 < Electron> when my parents visited me on wednesday we argued a bit about uni, work etc, but my mum apparently *really* likes my hair :)
00:47 < pajh> That's stage one. Next, go for the eyebrow piercing.
00:48 < Electron> heh
00:48 < Electron> nah, I think she'll start getting a little worried if it gets to the bottom of my ears
00:49 < pajh> if your eyebrow piercing got to the bottom of your ears, /I'd/ be worried.
00:49 < Electron> :)
00:50 < Electron> tatoos are the way to go
00:54 < Electron> maybe one that says fsck :)
00:55 < Electron> she *really* disapproves of seeing fcuk in town, but only recently realised it's french connection UK :)
00:55 < pajh> heh.
01:20 < pajh> Flame number two sent.
01:21 < Electron> heh
01:21 < pajh> Yanno, there must already be t-shirts that say "fsck fashion". Someone must have got there first.
01:21 < pajh> If not, woo!... the moolah! the grisbee!...
01:21 < pajh> AAAAApril in Pareeeeee.....
01:22 < Electron> there's a thinkgeek t-shirt 'fsck it!'
01:22 < pajh> Not good enough.
01:23 < pajh> I think we might have founbd our CompSoc t-shirt slogans
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01:35 < pajh> wb.
01:36 < Electron> ta
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04:22 <%meng|away> pajh: http://www.ntk.net/index.cgi?b=02001-08-24&l=D347#l
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16:31 <%meng> w
16:36 <%beaneater> a
16:36 <%meng> l
16:36 <%beaneater> l
16:36 <%meng> y
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18:38 < uberjoe> nice to see nothings changed :)
18:58 < uberjoe> ah pants, my supply of Evangelion has disappeared over the holidays
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11:48 < kev> this server is about to go offline
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--- Log opened Mon Apr 14 14:41:57 2003
14:42 -!- You're now known as meng
14:50 < Electron> hmm, maybe getting a laptop was a bad idea, now I can play games wherever I am :/
14:51 < meng> not very good timing was it Bruce
14:51 < meng> you got a new geek toy with novelty value and finals
14:51 < Electron> not really, it's just another computer
14:51 < Electron> I used a laptop which was probably better than this one for 12 weeks over the summer
14:52 < Electron> it just means I don't have to fight the linux computers in the jcmb labs any more
14:52 < Electron> and I can just use WinXP everywhere I go
14:52 < meng> !
14:53 < Electron> :)
14:54 < Electron> WinXP and Internet Explorer are actually very nice, much better than any *nix on laptops
14:55 < meng> OS X
14:55 < Electron> maybe
14:56 < meng> i'm going to get an ibook
14:56 < meng> kick yo' xp ass any day   :-)
14:56 < Electron> too expensive
14:56 < Electron> heh
14:56 < Electron> what, with your puny 800MHz PPC vs my 2GHz P4-M?
14:57 < meng> you bet
14:57 < Electron> ok - 1v1 C&C Generals?
14:58 < meng> ! i'm not sure it would be the *laptop* being tested in that case
14:59 < meng> i have always sucked at C&C
14:59 < Electron> see, Macs can't play games!
14:59 < Electron> hehe
14:59 < Electron> about the only fairly modern game they can play is Quake III Arena
14:59 < Electron> I'd have got a TiBook is I hadn't wanted to play games
15:00 < Electron> *if
15:00 < Electron> they are indeed better computers, but I wanted a LANning laptop
15:00 < meng> in my case, this is probably a good thing, otherwise I'd be able to play games, anytime, anywhere ... 
15:01 < Electron> just don't take the game CDs with you, and when you try and play it refuses to load
15:01 < meng> how embarassing
15:03 < meng> anyway, better get on, and you should be working bruce
15:03 < meng> ttyl
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15:04 < Electron> I am
15:37 < beaneater> yeah right
15:37 < beaneater> <-- exam tomorrow
15:41 < Yoda> which one is it?
15:41 < beaneater> computational complexity
15:41 < Yoda> ouch
15:41 < Yoda> feeling confident?
15:41 < beaneater> there's 9 of us...
15:41 < beaneater> it's okay
15:42 < Yoda> all 9 of you?
15:42 < beaneater> nine taking the exam tomorrow
15:42 < Yoda> wow, i thought there'll be more ppl taking it
15:43 < beaneater> I have exams with 9, 10, 11, 13 people I think
15:43 < beaneater> oh, and two with ~100
15:43 < beaneater> right, killing PuTTY *boom*
16:10 < Electron> <-- exam tomorrow
16:11 < Electron> about 20 of us
16:11 < Electron> ffs, why does nobody ever believe me when I say I'm working?!
16:12 < Electron> Yoda: and wtf was that 'Bruce is always right' thing on the way to the pub?  I've had this before, but I can never figure out where it comes from?!
16:27 < Yoda> nothing mate, nothing to worry about anyway
16:27 < Yoda> right, I'm off to purchase and consume large quanitites of chocolate ice creams in order to increase my revision rate
16:27 < Electron> hmmmmmmmm, ok
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18:43 < Yoda> omg, its quater to seven already?
18:45 < pajh> No, it's ten to seven.
18:45 < pajh> ph33r the NTP
18:47 < pajh> I don't know why I always lose an hour as soon as I get back from work.
18:48 < pajh> When does term start?
18:51 < uberjoe> tommorow
18:56 < Yoda> arrgghhhhhhhhh, just spent the last 2 hrs watching Gattaca
18:56 < Yoda> fantastic movie
18:57 < Yoda> even though I should be learning about the principles of Models and Simulation
19:00 < pajh> mmm, Uma Thurman
19:01 < Yoda> ?
19:01 < Yoda> oh yeah
19:20 < pajh> mrowr.
19:20 < Yoda> calm down boy
20:14 < pajh> Alex hasn't turned up back yet.
20:15 < pajh> I'm almost worried.
20:24  * Yoda running a bath with a quater packet of muscle relaxant (sp?) in it
20:24 < Yoda> the pain, the pain
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23:21 < pajh> Alex back.
23:25 < Electron> phew, just in time :)
23:28 < pajh> for?
23:29 < Electron> start of term - you were getting worried he might not make it in time
23:29 < pajh> no, silly. I was getting worried he was dead.
23:32 -!- Electron is now known as Electron|zzz
23:33 < Yoda> btw good luck for tomorrow Bruce and Nick
23:34 < Electron|zzz> thanks, Kate
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00:23 < Leynos> Now you really messed it up.  +t and no ops
00:23 < pajh> Tell me about it.
00:24 < Leynos> what monkey set +t?
00:24 < pajh> Not I.
00:26 < Leynos> How's things?
00:26 < pajh> Good.
00:27 < pajh> I have pizza, I have b33r, I have DVDs, and miniskirts are back in.
00:27 < pajh> It doesn't get any better than this.
00:27 < Leynos> heh
00:40 < pajh> and hot geek chix0r in the other chat window.
00:41 < pajh> Oh, and Mark, occasionally buitting in.
00:44 < Leynos> weird
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16:08  * beaneater finishes exam
16:08 < beaneater> #1
16:09 < beaneater> Electron: what did you have?
16:13 < Electron> beaneater: Parallel Architectures
16:14 < Electron> bah, evil exam
16:47 < beaneater> mine was middling
16:47 < beaneater> it wasn't clear which questions I should do; in retrospect, I think I chose the harder option
16:58 < Electron> actually, that exam was a bit like ADS last year - I went in, thought 'aaargh, I can't do any of these' but after a while I realised I could, and I did write some decent answers
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19:11 < uberjoe> http://kode-fu.com/shame/2003_04_06_archive.shtml#200107360
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23:10 < uberjoe> yawn
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23:53 < pajh> It's oh so quiet, hsssh, hsssh, it
23:53 < pajh> 's oh so still.
23:54 < pajh> It's oh so quiet, hsssh, hsssh, and so peaceful until....
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23:58 < pajh> heheheh
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23:58 < pajh> arse!
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00:00 < Yoda> what was that all about?
00:02 < pajh> xchat dies any time I C&P.
00:02 < pajh> Gary fcked up my kernel.
00:03 < Yoda> don't lie
00:13 < Yoda> where is everyone?
00:23 < Electron> that'll be the locale settings or something, then - the xchat in dcs used to do that as well, except every time you typed £ they would die as well
00:24 < Yoda> how was the exam?
00:24 < Electron> horrible
00:24 < Yoda> that bad? :( 
00:25 < Electron> yeah, I didn't know the answers in enough detail
00:25 < Electron> I knew lots of other stuff, but the questions that came up were just not good
00:25 < Yoda> just a bad paper i guess. that happens, think of CA last year ...
00:26 < Electron> CA? you mean FPS surely? :)
00:26 < Yoda> I didn't do FPS, but i heard it was bad
00:26 < Yoda> but I did do CA, and that was a nightmare
00:27 < Electron> did you pass?
00:27 < Yoda> I did really well, I think they must have marked it up
00:27 < Yoda> because i got 62% or something
00:27 < Yoda> but no way i actually got that mark
00:27 < Electron> hah, well I totally failed FPS - 33%
00:27 < Yoda> i couldn't answer half of the paper
00:28 < Yoda> it'll be ok
00:28 < Electron> I couldn't answer any of the paper
00:28 < Yoda> you always think you'll do worst than you did
00:28 < Yoda> there's always 5 more papers to go
00:28 < Electron> no, I *did* get 33%
00:28 < Electron> I think I did alright today
00:28 < Yoda> you should
00:29 < Yoda> just think about the next exam
00:29 < Electron> yes, that exam's over, 4 more to go
00:29 < Yoda> only 4?
00:29 < Electron> I did SLIP
00:29 < Yoda> o
00:42 < pajh> Testing...
00:42 < pajh> £
00:46 < beaneater> £££ Fast!
00:48 < Yoda> am checking this canal barge thing out, there's one that cost £89 for 3 days (25th-28th July)
00:49 < Electron> lol @ http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=1232531+0+current/freebsd-questions
00:51 < pajh> per day? per person?
00:51 < Yoda> for 3 days per person
00:51 < Yoda> but i don't know when we want to go
00:52 < Yoda> like what is the best time for ppl
00:52 < Yoda> and whether we want to go to England
00:52 < Yoda> or stay in Scotland
00:52 < Electron> where in England?
00:52 < Yoda> Northern
00:52 < Yoda> most probably Manchester, Liverpool
00:52 < Electron> aha
00:52 < Yoda> Birmingham is the furtherest I'd go
00:53 < Yoda> esp since we're all based up here
00:53 < pajh> Liverpool! mmm, Liverpool.
00:53 < pajh> and hot geek chix0rs.
00:54 < pajh> Also a bunch of scousers.
00:54 < Yoda> and how many of us want to go
00:54 < Yoda> like Nick and Bruce, are you interested in going on a boat trip
00:55 < Yoda> well, a canal narrowboat trip
00:56 < Yoda> the cheapest time is either end of may
00:56 < Yoda> bad time
00:56 < Yoda> or start of september
00:56 < Yoda> but that might be too late
00:56 < Electron> yeah, could be fun
00:57 < Electron> as long as it's not in Scotland
00:57 < Electron> because Scotland's canals suck
00:58 < pajh> Or we could go sailing round the Mull of Kintyre
00:58 < pajh> but that would be a) more expensive, b) more nautically complex, and c) you'd all have to be my sailing bitches.
00:58 < Yoda> sailing bitches?
00:58 < Yoda> anyway ...
00:58 < pajh> Cause I kow how to sail.
00:59 < Yoda> for 8 ppl, from 16th-20th April (mid-week) £83 per person
00:59 < Yoda> for 4 days, that's not bad
00:59 < Electron> no - sailing bad
00:59 < pajh> Pretty good, but off-season
00:59 < pajh> and kinda short notice
00:59 < Yoda> i know
00:59 < pajh> Sailing good.
00:59 < Electron> last time I went sailing was in Tobago, and I was very sick
00:59 < Yoda> but it jumps to £140 during July
00:59 < Electron> apparently I really *was* green
01:00 < Electron> though I know how to sail a GP14 on a reservoir
01:00 < pajh> pah. reserviors.
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01:01 < Yoda> Dave, are you interested?
01:01 < Leynos> hi
01:01 < Yoda> going on a canal boat trip
01:02 < Yoda> i think our best bet is 11th-20th June - that time period
01:02 < Yoda> and for 8 ppl
01:03 < Electron> Yoda: erm, that's the end of term
01:03 < Electron> that'll be impossible
01:03 < Yoda> but we don't have anything then?
01:03 < Yoda> why?
01:03 < Electron> I'm supposed to move out of this flat on the 20th
01:03 < Leynos> sounds scarey ^^;
01:03 < Yoda> but we're only going for 4 days
01:03 < Electron> ah, ok
01:04 < Yoda> surely can't you pack up before then?
01:04 < Electron> yep
01:07 < Yoda> Leynos : too scary for u?
01:07 < Leynos> possibly
01:08 < Yoda> chicken
01:08  * Leynos is scared of people
01:08  * Yoda slaps Leynos around a bit with a large trout
01:08  * Leynos is listening to Various Artists - THANK YOU - Dido - Deep Dish Remix from Promo Only Mainstream Radio May 2001 9:29@128kbps from playlist Library
01:09 < Leynos> Deep Dish remixed Dido songs rule
01:11  * pajh is listening to Saint-Saens - Danse Macabre from big wop-off hard disk full of mp3s
01:11 < Leynos> cool
01:12 < Leynos> Everyone needs to play Taiko No Tatsujin
01:12 < pajh> You keep talking about this, but you won't tell anyone what it is
01:13 < Leynos> It's a taiko drum game by Namco for the PS2.  You have to play the drum part for various songs as instructed by the onscreen sybols
01:14 < Leynos> Lots of different types of music - J-Pop, video game music, Japanese festival music, anime themes, J-Metal, jazz, disc, and classical
01:15 < Leynos> And it comes with a custom controller shaped like a miniature taiko drum
01:15 < pajh> drum drum revolution?
01:16 < Leynos> more or less :)
01:16 < pajh> Oh, Alex brought back a PS2 mat for DDR.
01:16 < Leynos> Except DDR is made by Konami
01:16 < pajh> Now we just need the PS2.
01:16 < pajh> And the DDR.
01:16 < Leynos> I've got a PS2, but no DDR
01:17 < pajh> Apparently there's an adapter for USB, and a freely downloadable version in Python
01:17 < Leynos> yeah
01:18 < Leynos> Too much risk of collateral dammage if Leynos plays DDR
01:18 < Leynos> Not to mention I'd probably be rubbish at it
01:21 < Leynos> Is there a cure for web forum addiction?
01:21 < Yoda> yeah
01:21 < pajh> Yes.
01:21 < Yoda> a social life
01:21 < Yoda> and sex
01:21 < pajh> It's called `Paul comes round and takes a hammer to your modem'
01:21 < Leynos> sounds too much like hard work
01:21 < pajh> `and charges GBP50'
01:21 < Yoda> like a consultant
01:23 < Leynos> F.  I forgot sunset boulevard is on this week at the cinema
01:24 < Leynos> Hmmm...  It's on on Saturday.  I can probably justify going then, 'cos I never seem to get any work done on a Saturday anyway
01:35 < Yoda> Leynos: is this a no to the boater thing
01:35 < Yoda> am making a blog on it, so need some inital info
01:36 < Leynos> It's a pretty big decision to make on the spurr of the moment ^^;
01:37 < Leynos> Which canal anyway?
01:37 < Yoda> alright, i'll put u down as a maybe
01:37 < Yoda> but let me know soon alright?
01:37 < Yoda> somewhere near Manchester/Liverpool
01:37 < Leynos> that sounds interesting.  I've never been there before
01:43 < Leynos> http://www.playserver2.com/covers/112988m.jpg  <-- class film
01:43 < Yoda> http://canalboater.blogspot.com <-----blog for the boat trip
01:44 < Leynos> Everyone seems to use that site
01:44 < Yoda> www.blogger.com?
01:45 < Leynos> yeah
01:45 < Leynos> So it's the Compsoc boat trip?
01:45 < Yoda> yeah aka Compsoc Goes Boating
01:45 < Leynos> That sounds less scarey
02:15 < Yoda> man, this canal boat has a colour tv
02:16 < Yoda> and its only 670 quid ... 
02:17 < pajh> to buy?
02:17 < Yoda> 83 quid for the week
02:17 < Yoda> per person
02:18 < Leynos> How do you get 8 people on a boat?
02:18 < pajh> see? Gary didn't even need convincing.
02:18 < Yoda> we did 12ppl on a boat
02:18 < pajh> "CompSoc boat trip. Canal barge..." "That would be good."
02:18 < Yoda> see the web blog?
02:18 < pajh> I don't blog.
02:19 < Yoda> u can read the blog
02:19 < Yoda> u just don't have to blog
02:19 < pajh> That would be giving tacit support to the concept of the blog.
02:19 < Yoda> its not
02:19 < Yoda> what else do u want me to do instead
02:19 < Yoda> build a dedicated site?
02:20 < pajh> tell me?
02:20 < Yoda> easier to tell you AND everyone else through blogging
02:21 < Yoda> General Facilities: Radio Cassette, Colour TV, Radiator Heating, 250 gallon Water Tank, Cruiser Stern.
02:21 < Yoda> Kitchen Facilities: Fully equipped galley with 3 or 4 burner gas cooker complete with grill and oven, refrigerator, sink and drainer, work surfaces and storage space.
02:21 < Yoda> Bathroom Facilities: Two bathrooms; One with Hip Bath/Shower, Shaver Sockets 
02:21 < Yoda> Engine: 1800cc Diesel
02:21 < Yoda> Price: The price includes VAT, all fuels, bedlinen (and towels for overseas visitors).
02:21 < Yoda> A Cancellation Protection Fee of 3% of the hire ch
02:21 < Yoda> Four Cabins: 1 fixed double, 2 dinette doubles (1 of which can be settee single with pipe cot over), 1 settee double or single (with pipe cot over) 
02:21 < pajh> what's with all this TV stuff?
02:21 < pajh> You're on a boat. You rough it.
02:21 < Yoda> General Facilities: Radio Cassette, Colour TV, Radiator Heating, 250 gallon Water Tank, Cruiser Stern.
02:21 < Yoda> i know
02:21 < pajh> And hammocks.
02:21 < pajh> HAMMOCKS!
02:22 < Yoda> we wont have it on
02:22 < Yoda> HAMMOCKS? its a narrow boat
02:22 < pajh> Radio would be good, or CD player.
02:22 < pajh> So you have all the hammocks in a line, then.
02:22 < Yoda> yes, music is gooed
02:23 < pajh> Oh fuck.
02:23 < pajh> We just brought up the concept of `war-sailng'.
02:23 < Yoda> uh-oh
02:24 < pajh> And now we've said it, we have to do it.
02:26 < Yoda> no we don't *have* to
02:26 < Leynos> Death to the infidel!
02:31 < Leynos> off I go.  Later
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02:34 < Yoda> right, all current info on the project is on http://canalboater.blogspot.com
02:34 < Yoda> any questions, email me
02:34 < Yoda> meanwhile, I have to go to bed, esp with my exam tomorrow
02:35 < Yoda> btw, compsoc meet tommorrow?
02:35 < Yoda> 4pm perchance?
02:35 < Yoda> at the Peartree
02:38 < pajh> at work from 3
02:38 < Electron> sounds good
02:38 < Electron> good luck with the exam, Kate
02:38 < Yoda> the meet or the holiday?
02:39 < Electron> meet
02:39 < Yoda> thanks mate
02:39 < Electron> 4pm
02:39 < Electron> need pubbage
02:39 < Yoda> c u guys then
02:39 < pajh> good luck, kate
02:39 < Yoda> remember, comments on the holiday
02:39 < pajh> thanks for today
02:39 < Yoda> np
02:39 < Yoda> i had a really good laugh
02:39 < Yoda> hope we do sunday lunch there sometime
02:40 < pajh> sounds good.
02:41 < Electron> Yoda: compsoc meet *today*
02:41 < Electron> holiday sounds good as well
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04:40 < Electron> http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=1237243+0+current/freebsd-questions
05:05 < pajh> can't C&P until Gary fixes my kernel.
05:06 < pajh> Something to d with FreeBSD, I'm guessing.
05:59 < Electron> yeah, some Christian wrote a message saying he can't use FreeBSD because it has a demon as its logo
06:00 < Electron> people wrote back with quite humourous messages explaining that it's daemon, and anyway the alternative, Windows, is even more morally wrong than FreeBSD because it's made by a company which steals and cheats
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10:16 < uberjoe> hmm I suppose everyone's gone to sleep now that its morning
10:16 < uberjoe> and Windows isn't the only alternative to FreeBSD surely ?
10:19 < beaneate1> nah
10:19 < beaneate1> gah
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10:19 < beaneater> who has severed my connectivity?
10:20 < beaneater> no, I'm on a nonnocturnal day just now
10:21 < uberjoe> hmm
10:21 < uberjoe> interesting post that
10:21 < uberjoe> 04:44 < Electron> http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=1237243+0+current/freebsd-questions
10:21 < uberjoe> 04:44 < Electron> http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=1237243+0+current/freebsd-questions
10:21 < uberjoe> doh
11:00 < Electron> well it's another alternative to FreeBSD
11:00 < Electron> and I think most FreeBSDers don't like GNU much either
11:35 < uberjoe> probably not
11:35 < uberjoe> :)
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13:00 < uberjoe> yo
13:01 < uberjoe> ...da...
13:01  * uberjoe thinks weird al
13:10 < Yoda> weird al?
13:17 < uberjoe> Yoda (to the tune of Lola by the Kinks)
13:31 < Electron> you've not heard of wierd al?
13:38 < Yoda> no ...
13:38 < Yoda> anyway, i'm off
13:38 < Yoda> exams to do ...
13:38 < Yoda> c u all in the pub (peartree) at 4pm
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13:44 < uberjoe> mmm, padawan learn has much to
13:44 < Electron> :)
14:26 < beaneater> Y O D A Yoda
15:18  * uberjoe heads off to the pub
15:18 < beaneater> pub?
15:18 < beaneater> wassat?
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19:36 < Yoda> heeeeeeeeeeeeeeelllllllllllooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
19:36 < Yoda> ?
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19:40 < Yoda> heeeeeeeeeeeeeeelllllllllllooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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20:12 <@Electron> ta
20:12 < kev> okay?
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20:17 < olly> ahar
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20:26 <@Yoda> Mr Milkman?
20:26 -!- Yoda changed the topic of #compsoc to: Compsoc rules
20:27 <@Electron> did you find anyone to play football with?
20:28 <@Yoda> no, they didn't turn up, either that, or they left by then. we were supposed to meet at 5.30pm
20:28 <@Yoda> but my mate turned up, so we had a chat
20:28 <@Electron> heh
20:29 <@Yoda> and i've just been calling old mates up to catch up with ...
20:32 <@Yoda> who is Mr Milkman?
20:32 <@Yoda> another gamesoc spy?
20:32 <@Yoda> along with olly?
20:32 <@Yoda> maybe we could do a Compsoc meets Gamesoc boat trip
20:33 < olly> yes, hello
20:33 <@Yoda> are you spying again?
20:33 <@Yoda> shouldnt you be pre-occupied with that Systems Design project?
20:34 < olly> shhhh
20:35 < olly> we've got to finish IP first :)
20:35 < olly> gogo soa and his extending deadlines
20:35 <+Mr_Milkman> Yoda: I am spying on olly
20:35 <@Yoda> lol
20:35 <@Yoda> spying on the spy
20:35 < olly> wha?
20:35 <+Mr_Milkman> i want to see what he i up to
20:35  * olly looks around nervously
20:36  * olly eyes his webcam suspicously
20:36 <@Yoda> what are you guys doing here spying, you know us, compsoc does nothing
20:36 <@Yoda> we chat and we drink
20:36 <@Yoda> that's all
20:36 <@Yoda> unless ...
20:36 < olly> sounds like gamesoc
20:36 < olly> withough the gaming...
20:36 <@Yoda> http://canalboater.blogspot.com
20:36 <@Yoda> the latest plan
20:36 < olly> ooo, a blog
20:36 <@Yoda> i'm so excited
20:36 <@Yoda> go read
20:37 <+Mr_Milkman> can you take pc's with you and have a lan on the boat?
20:37 <@Yoda> lol, no, that's the whole point
20:37 < olly> drunken boating \o/
20:37 <@Yoda> "Compsoc gets in touch with nature"
20:37 <@Yoda> i did it for my 21st
20:38 <@Yoda> the best holiday i've ever had
20:38 <+Mr_Milkman> oh#
20:38 <+Mr_Milkman> oh
20:38 <@Yoda> can you take pc's with you and have a lan on the boat? <- such a gamesoc thing to say
20:38 < olly> oooooo
20:38 <@Yoda> do I know you Mr Milkman - in real life?
20:38 <@Yoda> are you a 4th year?
20:38 < olly> LOLOlolololol
20:39 < olly> (sorry)
20:39 <+Mr_Milkman> i am cs3, i'm not old enough to go into the real world yet
20:39 < olly> (hes too lazy)
20:39 <@Yoda> lol
20:39 <+Mr_Milkman> bruce said you were gonna to a lan once
20:39 <@Yoda> so why are you guys here - no chat in gamesoc?
20:40 <@Yoda> ;)
20:40 < olly> another channel to waste time on :)
20:40 < olly> are we being annoying?
20:40 <@Yoda> no, i was just wondering why you were here, that's all
20:40 <@Yoda> you can join compsoc instead
20:41 <+Mr_Milkman> i am here on a mission
20:41 <@Yoda> of?
20:42 <+Mr_Milkman> i'm hoping somebody from compsoc comes to this lan on sunday and repots back to base
20:42 <@Yoda> i can come
20:42 <+Mr_Milkman> woo
20:42 <@Yoda> would that be alright?
20:42 <+Mr_Milkman> yes
20:43 <@Yoda> i could bring you down from the inside 
20:43  * Yoda evil laugh #17
20:44 <+Mr_Milkman> you know where to go?
20:44 <@Yoda> Teviot? right?
20:44 <@Yoda> what do you guys play
20:44 <@Yoda> cos I only have a little laptop
20:44 <@Yoda> 1.4Ghz
20:45 <@Yoda> and not that great a graphic 
20:45 <+Mr_Milkman> yeah, go to middle bar, then through in dining room
20:45 <@Yoda> brb
20:45 <+Mr_Milkman> np
20:46 <@Yoda> back
20:46 <@Yoda> sorry
20:46 <@Yoda> and not that great a graphic card
20:46  * Yoda just answered the phone
20:46 <@Yoda> so, what do you play
20:47 <+Mr_Milkman> we play most games
20:47 <+Mr_Milkman> whatever the people who are there want to play at the time
20:47 <+Mr_Milkman> of course if you dont havr that game we *cough* get it for you *cough*
20:49 <+Mr_Milkman> btw i dont think you have met me, i dont know any cs4 girlies
20:50 < olly> "girlies" lol
20:50 <@Yoda> lol
20:50 <@Yoda> girlies
20:50 <@Yoda> all 13 of us
20:50 < olly> heh, you counted
20:51 < olly> i suppose u would know after 4 years
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20:51 < CLeaner> Hi, um, you are all invited to the sheeps heid some time next month for hot skittles action
20:51 < CLeaner> adambracegirdle@yahoo.co.uk if interested
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20:51 <+Mr_Milkman> yay soon gamesoc member will out number compsoc on their own channel
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20:52 < CLeaner> 9th May £2 each
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20:59 < CLeaner> .
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21:03 <@Yoda> ?
21:03 <@Yoda> sheeps heid?
21:03 <@Yoda> what's that?
21:03 <+Mr_Milkman> it's a pub
21:03 <@Yoda> oh
21:04 <+Mr_Milkman> there is a beer and skittle night there, it in round the other side of arthurs seat
21:04 <@Yoda> i thought it was some random farmer's thing
21:04 <@Yoda> like lambing ... :)
21:04 <+Mr_Milkman> hehe
21:04 <@Yoda> I feel a lot safer
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21:04 <@Yoda> hot skittles action?
21:04 <@Yoda> what's that?
21:04 < olly> oh yes
21:05 <@Yoda> am quite scared
21:06 <+Mr_Milkman> you roll a ball fast at skittles and knock down as manyb as you can
21:06 <@Yoda> oh, like bowling?
21:06 < olly> depending on how much alcohol u have consumed
21:06 <@Yoda> i thought it was skittles - the sweets, lol
21:06 < olly> lol
21:06 <+Mr_Milkman> yes, but this is in a pub
21:07 <@Yoda> bowling pub?
21:07 <@Yoda> wow
21:07 <@Yoda> we could do pub golf
21:07 <@Yoda> compsoc and gamesoc together
21:07 <+Mr_Milkman> i dont think the pubs are that big
21:07 <+Mr_Milkman> they dont like you drilling holes in the floor
21:07 <@Yoda> you do know what pub golf is, don;t u?
21:08 <+Mr_Milkman> yeah i'm just kidding
21:08 <@Yoda> young boys, 
21:08 <@Yoda> ...
21:08 <@Yoda> k, i believe you
21:08 < CLeaner> I bet I'm older than you think
21:08 <@Yoda> like 20
21:08 <@Yoda> ?
21:08 < CLeaner> 22
21:08 <@Yoda> no .... you're older than me
21:08 <@Yoda> but not as mature ;)
21:08 < CLeaner> I'm in 3rd year too
21:09 <+Mr_Milkman> CLeaner had to repeat 2 years at primary school
21:09 <@Yoda> lol
21:09 <@Yoda> good dig
21:09 < CLeaner> I am aware of the process and implications of pub golf
21:09 < CLeaner> No, just I was seeing too much of your mum for the first couple of years at uni
21:09 <@Yoda> compsoc vs gamesoc - are you tough enough
21:09 <+Mr_Milkman> ooh
21:09 < olly> i think we'd be up for that...
21:10 < CLeaner> Do you think you can get 10 people along?
21:10  * Yoda puts saucer of milk in the corner
21:10 <@Yoda> from compsoc?lol
21:10 < olly> heh
21:10 <@Yoda> i don't think there's 10 regular members
21:10 < olly> are there that man ppl in compsoc
21:10 <+Mr_Milkman> compsoc v gamesoc team death match drinking
21:10 < olly> haahaaaa
21:10 < CLeaner> OK, I'm sure we can put some floating members on your side
21:10 <@Yoda> lol
21:11 < CLeaner> OK, winner of each round have to do a drinking forfeit?
21:11 <@Yoda> brb
21:11 <@Yoda> phone again
21:11  * CLeaner is reminded to put down the deposit
21:11 <+Mr_Milkman> girls...
21:11 < CLeaner> Ach, these dirty phone lines, they must take up so much time.
21:11 < CLeaner> Sorry, that was uncalled for.
21:12 <+Mr_Milkman> good pun
21:12 < CLeaner> Unintentional I assure you
21:13 < olly> yeah, fingers must have slipped in teh keys
21:13 < CLeaner> 0||!e=f00|
21:14 < CLeaner> So, oliver, are you in compsoc?
21:14  * CLeaner slaps Electron around a bit with a large trout
21:14 < CLeaner> gedinhere
21:14 < olly> no mr clean er I am not
21:15 < CLeaner> *sighs* sorry, I'm excitable tonight, must be the stress about the deadline for tomorrow.
21:15 < CLeaner> OK, I will now depart see you tomorrow evening post deadline
21:15 < CLeaner> and I hope we can get some compsoc folk along
21:15 < olly> go!
21:15 < olly> flee!
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21:30 <@Yoda> back
21:30 <@Yoda> once again
21:30 <@Yoda> so many ppl calling
21:30 <@Yoda> so little time
21:31 <@Yoda> right, about this drinking deathmatch
21:31 <@Yoda> what are your rules?
21:31 <@Yoda> ?
21:39 <+Mr_Milkman> we will discuss tomorrow
21:39 <+Mr_Milkman> <--- back to gaming
21:40 <@Yoda> cool
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21:52 <@Yoda> only you left Olly
21:52  * Yoda gets the trout
21:54  * Yoda cue scary music
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22:11 < beaneater> //
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00:16 -!- You're now known as meng
00:17 <@meng> guess who's back
00:29 <@uberjoe> santa ?
00:29 <@uberjoe> saddam ?
00:43 <@Yoda> hey hey hey
00:43 <@Yoda> how was it?
00:43 <@Yoda> do u think you've got the job?
00:45 -!- mode/#compsoc [-t] by Yoda
00:48 <@uberjoe> hmm, that a good idea ?
00:48 <@Yoda> yeah
00:48 <@Yoda> then anyone can set the topic
00:48 <@Yoda> freedom of speech and all
00:48 <@uberjoe> ah, non-ops
00:49 <@uberjoe> hmm, aren't we just opping everyone ?
00:49 <@Yoda> that's no fun though
00:49 <@Yoda> am tired
00:49 <@uberjoe> hmm
00:49 <@Yoda> back from another random roadtrip
00:49 <@Yoda> just joined a bingo club
00:51 <@Yoda> how random can you get
00:52 <@uberjoe> madness!
00:53 <@Yoda> how was your thing
00:53 <@Yoda> the thing you went to after compsoc
00:53 <@uberjoe> not too bad actually
00:54 <@uberjoe> met up with some friends to go to a talk to do with this Ressurection week thing the CU is running
00:55 <@meng> oops, hello Kate
00:55 <@Yoda> hey, how was it?
00:55 <@meng> and Mark/Joe
00:55 <@uberjoe> yo
00:55 <@meng> well, i messed up the one today
00:55 <@Yoda> i'm managed to infilrate Gamesoc
00:55 <@Yoda> how so?
00:56 <@uberjoe> ooh, society sabotage ?
00:56 <@meng> cos, they did the unthinkable, and asked me about finance; I wouldn't know the difference between a equity and a derivative if they hit me in the face
00:56 <@Yoda> lol
00:56 <@Yoda> what did you say?
00:57 <@meng> luckily they didn't ask me exactly that, i sidestepped the question and change the subject
00:57 <@meng> evidently not deftly enough
00:57 <@meng> got reject already !
00:57 <@meng> the other one, i'll phone and find out tomorrow
00:58 <@Yoda> ok
00:58 <@Yoda> well, probably better off that way
00:58 <@Yoda> you don't want to hang around these finance ppl
00:58 <@Yoda> boring as hell
00:58 <@meng> yeah man, suits everywhere
00:59 <@Yoda> defo
00:59 <@meng> maths students from cambridge and imperial
00:59 <@meng> and ousheng, do you know him
00:59 <@Yoda> no
00:59 <@meng> well, neither did I, but he was at the royal bank one
01:00 <@Yoda> how many did u go?
01:00 <@meng> 2
01:00 <@Yoda> k
01:00 <@meng> how was the exam
01:00 <@Yoda> nightmare
01:00 <@Yoda> Jane Hillston changed the format this year
01:00 <@Yoda> with no warning
01:00 <@meng> that bad
01:01 <@meng> whens the next
01:01 <@Yoda> previous years it was "What is blah", "what does blah do"
01:01 <@Yoda> this year was about "write all you can about this"
01:01 <@meng> ouch
01:01 <@Yoda> we had to explain how exactly to solve markov processes in a 14 mark question
01:01 <@meng> thats why you had to know everything
01:02 <@Yoda> that's not the problem, i know it, but it just took so long
01:02 <@Yoda> and i've spent the rest of tonight doing nothing
01:02 <@meng> asking for trouble putting essay questions in a CS exam !
01:03 <@Yoda> in the pub, then here - setting up pub golf with gamesoc, then random roadtrip again (with some rugby girls) and i'm here again
01:03 <@meng> so, what chat have i missed
01:03 <@Yoda> it wasn't an essay question tho ...
01:03 <@Yoda> me and Paul went to see Mark yesterday
01:03 <@Yoda> we went for a random roadtrip
01:03 <@Yoda> just couldn't revise the night before an exam
01:04 <@Yoda> so decided at 7pm to go to South Queensferry to see Mark
01:04 <@Yoda> it was a really good laugh
01:04 <@meng> what's he up to
01:04 <@Yoda> but you weren't there ...
01:04 <@Yoda> and he said that you said that you like him on someonelikesyou.com
01:04 <@Yoda> or something like that
01:04 <@meng> he started it!
01:05 <@Yoda> he's up to nothing much as usual
01:05 <@Yoda> so he thinks he's in with a chance
01:05 <@meng> lol
01:05 <@Yoda> i would watch out Michael
01:05 <@meng> that was at Valentines
01:05 <@meng> tell him my flame has been extinguished
01:06  * Yoda looks away
01:06  * Yoda steps away from the computer
01:06  * Yoda looks around
01:06 <@meng> right then
01:06 <@meng> (tm)
01:06 <@Yoda> exactly, indeed
01:06 <@Yoda> I spoke to Budgie today
01:06 <@Yoda> told her about the monopoly crawl
01:07 <@Yoda> and she said that I should write a business plan and present it to monopoly and see what they say.
01:07 <@Yoda> She said I could make a few bucks outta it
01:07 <@meng> !
01:07 <@meng> but it's not your idea, it's off red dwarf
01:07 <@Yoda> but apparently, some of my rugby mates have been spreading the word round that it was her idea
01:08 <@Yoda> that was in London, I'm mapping it to Edinburgh
01:08 <@Yoda> whatever happens, i wouldn't sell the idea
01:08 <@meng> you couldn't SELL a pub crawl !
01:08 <@Yoda> I would sell the merchanise and the tour - idiot - how much would I make?
01:09 <@meng> actually, we could set up a festival tour operation
01:09 <@meng> are you in ?
01:09 <@Yoda> in it
01:09 <@Yoda> where?
01:09 <@meng> i dunno, make something up
01:09 <@Yoda> yeah, she mentioned that
01:09 <@Yoda> the festival would be a good idea
01:10 <@Yoda> and I spoke to Granny tonight as well, and she's going to get the B'ham Edition for me
01:10 <@meng> all we need is some coloured bibs and leaflets
01:10 <@meng> i can see a 'take over the WORLD' plan hatching
01:10 <@Yoda> and we're going to go down there and do it
01:10 <@Yoda> and if I get into UMIST, that's the Manchester one in the bag
01:10 <@meng> "It's more than a pub crawl, it's the experience of a lifetime!"
01:11 <@Yoda> defo
01:11 <@Yoda> i hope that's no trademarked yet
01:11 <@meng> what's this about going boating
01:11 <@Yoda> but I think it'll be good. Its the best time to do it in, esp since I'm graduating
01:11 <@Yoda> http://canalboater.blogspot.com
01:12 <@Yoda> but I don't think I could bring myself to telling my parents that I'm running a business getting ppl pissed
01:12 <@Yoda> I haven't told them i drink
01:12 <@Yoda> although I'm sure they suspect something. Like when I disappeared for 2 days on my 18th birthday
01:13 <@meng> your timing's perfect Kate, my last exam is on the 10th
01:14 <@Yoda> my last is on the 11th
01:14 <@Yoda> Decision Making Under Uncertainty
01:14 <@Yoda> I am the best you know
01:14 <@Yoda> I organise parties like no one organises parties
01:15 <@Yoda> you know that from me and my random nights
01:15 <@Yoda> I've just been to a random 24 hr Tescos in Dalkeith
01:15 <@meng> how many "experiences of a lifetime" can we have in the next three months
01:15 <@Yoda> now that is random
01:15 <@meng> is that the tesco extra
01:15 <@Yoda> no
01:15 <@Yoda> the proper massive one in Dalkeith
01:16 <@meng> it seems a bit odd, if you're going to make a enormous tesco and have it open 24h, why put it in Dalkeith
01:16 <@Yoda> i know
01:16 <@Yoda> random
01:16 <@meng> there is the big Asda down that way too, i think it's open 24h as well?
01:16 <@Yoda> but I've joined a bingo club as well
01:16 <@meng> !!!!
01:17 <@Yoda> all in a nights work
01:17 <@Yoda> i told you, when i get stressed, its ice cream and randomness
01:17 <@meng> you bring random to a new high Kate
01:17 <@Yoda> compound randomness
01:17 <@Yoda> oh yeah, and I've organised a pub crawl between us and gamesoc
01:18 <@meng> is this your infiltration thing
01:18 <@Yoda> read postings above ^ (before you got back)
01:18 <@Yoda> well, more of a collbration
01:18 <@Yoda> can't spell
01:18 <@meng> who's CLeaner and Mr_Milkman
01:18 <@Yoda> some CS3 kids
01:19 <@Yoda> no idea why they join the channel in the first place
01:19 <@uberjoe> ?
01:19 <@Yoda> but they're coming to next weeks compsoc meeting to discuss drinking crawl
01:19 <@Yoda> pub golf
01:19 <@uberjoe> they probably just want to bask in our l33tn3S5
01:19 <@Yoda> the compsoc v gamesoc team death match drinking
01:19 <@uberjoe> who is ?
01:20 <@meng> i don't want to know how you frag
01:20 <@Yoda> make the other person drink to death
01:20 <@uberjoe> probably involves spraying your guts all over the battlefield...
01:21 <@Yoda> but i wasn't sure whether anyone can hack it
01:21 <@Yoda> as in there's no one that can really, *really* drink
01:22 <@meng> not even you ?
01:22 <@uberjoe> oh, that "hack"
01:22 <@Yoda> so one of my mates in second year said that she'll bring some of her classmates along
01:22 <@Yoda> we'll increase our membershi[
01:22 <@uberjoe> I thought you were suggesting some kind of manipulation of the rules
01:22 <@Yoda> i can hack it to some extent
01:22 <@Yoda> but not me vs whole of gamesoc
01:22 <@meng> lol
01:22 <@uberjoe> aye, I don't think much of us are exactly hardcore drinkers
01:23 <@meng> depends whether it's alcohol or caffeine
01:23 <@uberjoe> how aout they drink beer, we drink espresso ?
01:23 <@Yoda> we're not wimps
01:23 <@uberjoe> hehe, espresso shots v. vodka shots
01:23 <@uberjoe> hmm, espresso and vodka shots...
01:24 <@meng> ew
01:24 <@Yoda> so, what's the chat on the boat - Michael, you interested?
01:24 <@meng> provisionally yes
01:24 <@uberjoe> in the words of pete the ninja pirate:
01:24 <@uberjoe> "yarr, madame donkey be a fine wench"
01:25 <@Yoda> why provisionally?
01:25 <@Yoda> cant hack it?
01:25 <@uberjoe> hmm I think i'll get some sleep
01:25 <@meng> 'pends if i do get this job and when they want me to start
01:25 <@uberjoe> apt get sleep
01:25 <@uberjoe> oops, wrong window
01:26  * uberjoe is not funny
01:26  * Yoda slaps uberjoe around a bit with a large trout
01:26  * uberjoe also doesn't use debian
01:26 <@meng> badum
01:26 <@uberjoe> anyway
01:26 <@uberjoe> bed...
01:26 <@Yoda> they wouldn't want you to start the day after your exams
01:26 <@Yoda> or the week afterwards
01:26 <@meng> has happened before
01:26 <@Yoda> would they
01:26 <@meng> edinburgh terms are different from other places
01:27 <@Yoda> are they? by how much
01:27 <@meng> UCL start their easter break today
01:28 <@Yoda> that's UCL
01:28 <@Yoda> they'll dicks
01:28 <@meng> true, but that's not the point
01:28 <@Yoda> sorry, am tired and rude mood
01:29 <@Yoda> just whatever, its just that we need to book soon
01:29 <@Yoda> I think we should have a smaller group of us
01:29 <@Yoda> ppl always pull out on me
01:30 <@Yoda> as in they'll agree and then piss off
01:30 <@meng> well, i'll know about the job tomorrow (today), so will be able to give you a definite
01:30 <@meng> since i have no other plans
01:31 <@Yoda> what will you do if you don't get it?
01:31 <@Yoda> go home?
01:31 <@Yoda> or stay here?
01:31 <@meng> no idea
01:31 <@meng> my folks not coming over this year
01:31 <@meng> might go home for a while
01:31 <@Yoda> you could come and work for me - with my monopoly crawl
01:31 <@Yoda> don't think i can pay you much
01:32 <@meng> what, for Kate Ho Enterprises
01:32 <@Yoda> no no, this one :
01:32 <@Yoda> Ho & Co
01:32 <@Yoda> it rhymes
01:32 <@meng> !! lol
01:33 <@Yoda> they thought it up at the Young Enterprise Company
01:33 <@Yoda> there are competitions to start that type of stuff up
01:33 <@Yoda> it'll be such good experience, dont you think?
01:34 <@meng> of what ?
01:34 <@Yoda> to start a company
01:35 <@Yoda> you're boring, that's your problem. You want a dead steady job, with steady pay and all the rest bs
01:35 <@Yoda> inject some adventure in your life
01:36 <@Yoda> or risk being boring and boring and boring and looking for your dream date on someonelikeyou.com
01:36 <@meng> that's not fair
01:36 <@meng> mark started it
01:36 <@Yoda> yeah, that's what they all say
01:37 <@meng> and i really don't know about this job situation, i'm trying to support myself
01:37 <@Yoda> nm
01:37 <@Yoda> am in bad mood
01:37 <@Yoda> just ignore me
01:37 <@meng> ok
01:37 <@Yoda> told you, mood swings are really really bad
01:38 <@Yoda> all part of the fun 
01:38 <@Yoda> havent you got a handin tomorrow?
01:39 <@meng> was just about to say
01:39 <@meng> got most of it done, but it's on paper
01:39 <@meng> going to type it in just now
01:40 <@Yoda> in latex
01:40 <@meng> course
01:40 <@meng> we get extra points for latex in ics
01:40 <@meng> always makes comments
01:40 <@Yoda> is that really true
01:41 <@meng> serious, he wrote in the essay feedback for the group task
01:41 <@meng> i don't know if it really helped
01:41 <@meng> but there's got to be something subconscious going on there
01:41 <@meng> "The LaTeX effect"
01:42 <@Yoda> no comment
01:42 <@Yoda> the t-shirts
01:42 <@Yoda> can we blog all of this crap
01:42 <@Yoda> as in, every project we've discussed
01:42 <@meng> are you on a blog kick
01:42 <@Yoda> so i can keep track in my tiny little brain, along with the drinking deathmatch
01:42 <@Yoda> been a member for a while
01:43 <@meng> have you got your own
01:43 <@Yoda> not a diary type thing
01:43 <@meng> like nick's
01:43 <@Yoda> stopped doing the diary thing after 5th yr high school
01:43 <@Yoda> just read some of them the other week, I'm so shallow
01:44 <@Yoda> i really am
01:44 <@Yoda> so no
01:44 <@Yoda> I don't, I don't have a webcam either
01:44 <@meng> not sure that the kind of stuff you wrote when you're 15 you want to come back to haunt you
01:44 <@Yoda> I know, its not healthy
01:45 <@Yoda> but I find that kind of stuff private
01:45 <@meng> that's the whole idea innit
01:45 <@Yoda> my feelings, my words, I find that it would be exposing myself
01:45 <@meng> of a "dear diary" diary
01:45 <@Yoda> and there's no one I feel close enough - in this world - to do that
01:46 <@Yoda> just boring for other ppl as well
01:46 <@meng> but that's the nature of teenage angst, right
01:47 <@Yoda> was it for you?
01:47 <@meng> er can't say it was
01:47 <@meng> but the blog is just a modern day expression of teenage angst
01:47 <@meng> i think
01:47 <@meng> (i.e. most people grow out of it)
01:48 <@Yoda> yeah
01:48 <@Yoda> but this blogging isn't that though, just keeping track of stuff
01:48 <@Yoda> so much going on at the moment
01:48 <@Yoda> got this AGM thing tomorrow
01:49 <@Yoda> with the whole rugby thing, spent the whole night talking to rugby ppl about the future of the club since its our AGM tomorrow
01:49 <@Yoda> i find that I don't care anymore
01:50 <@meng> well you've devoted the past 4 years of your life to this ladies rfc
01:50 <@Yoda> i know, its sad isn't it
01:50 <@Yoda> what should we call our adventure with the t-shirts
01:50 <@Yoda> Compsoc does T-shirts?
01:50 <@meng> Compsoc makes T-shirts
01:51 <@Yoda> makes?
01:51 <@meng> plans
01:51 <@meng> that's a bit much for what it was
01:51 <@meng> thinks abouts
01:51 <@Yoda> lol, then we can proceed to phrase 2, Compsoc makes T-shirts
01:52 <@Yoda> decide boy
01:52 <@meng> on what ?
01:52 <@meng> we haven't finalised a plan yet
01:52 <@meng> so i think we are still on phase 1
01:53 <@Yoda> on the name
01:53 <@meng> oh
01:53 <@meng> compsoc makes t-shirts
01:53 <@Yoda> Compsoc Makes T-shirts or Compsoc Plans T-shirts?
01:53 <@Yoda> right
01:53 <@meng> it sounds like we are actually doing something, more optimistic
01:54 <@Yoda> can we ftp the blogs to the compsoc webpage
01:54 <@Yoda> would that be ok with everyone?
01:54 <@Yoda> rather than having them hosted on blogspot.com
01:55 <@meng> well, i just got the quota upped, so there's lots of space
01:55 <@Yoda> what's the ftp server?
01:55 <@meng> holyrood.ed.ac.uk
01:55 <@Yoda> and password? the same as before?
01:55 <@meng> yes
01:56 <@Yoda> got in
01:57 <@meng> ACCESS DENIED. <OVERRIDE>
01:59 <@Yoda> ha, I've already pressed the BIG RED BUTTON
01:59 <@meng> OH NO !
01:59 <@meng> EVERYONE ON THE FLOOR
01:59 <@Yoda> got you
02:00 <@Yoda> do we use the same colour scheme for all the blogs?
02:00 <@meng> guess so
02:00 <@Yoda> we could change it
02:00 <@meng> i don't think we have a compsoc corporate identity 
02:00 <@Yoda> right then (tm)
02:01 <@meng> don't say that, people might mistake you for me!
02:01 <@meng> and we know how convincing you can be
02:01 <@Yoda> dont mock me
02:01 <@meng> right then
02:02 <@Yoda> my, my, you are funny
02:02 <@meng> hey, it's two in the morning
02:02 <@meng> i used up all the good gags alreadu
02:03 <@Yoda> but two in the morning, you should have the good gags quota refreshed already
02:03 <@meng> it's not on a cronjob, requires sleep to replenish
02:04 <@meng> i'm not a machine you know
02:04 <@Yoda> i really should be something productive, not weblogging the summary of the t-shirts
02:05 <@meng> "We regret to inform you that we have decided not to progress your candidacy. Competition for places this year has been higher than ever before, so this decision should in no way be viewed as a reflection on your own undoubted abilities and skills.  Due to the very large number of candidates interviewed, we are unable to offer feedback after first round interview."
02:05 <@meng> there were three of us
02:06 <@meng> right then, i better get coffee and work on this ics
02:10 <@meng> tatta, duck
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04:47 <@Electron> ping?
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08:33 <@Yoda> sorry Michael, I just fell asleep halfway through talking on IRC ... but yeah, have fun with the assignment
08:43 -!- Yoda changed the topic of #compsoc to: http://canalboater.blogspot.com for Boat trip, http://compsoctshirts.blogspot.com for t-shirts and htpp://pubgolf.blogspot.com for the Compsoc and Gamesoc does pub golfing
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09:20 < beaneater> heyhey folks
10:13 < Electron> lo
10:35  * Yoda|Library runs in to get all the notes and index card she forgot before going to the library
10:35  * Yoda|Library runs out again
12:18 <@uberjoe> hmm, has anybody been on the canal that joins the west and east cost which starts at the bottom of loch ness ?
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14:20 < Yoda> ha! I've managed to log onto IRC from the library!
14:20 < Yoda> good stuff
14:20 < Yoda> I rule
14:23 < Electron> hehe
14:23 < Electron> I got on IRC from the meadows this morning
14:24 < Yoda> meadows? backnet or informatics?
14:24 < Electron> backnet
14:24 < Yoda> such a nice day as well
14:24 <@pajh> backnet++
14:24 < Electron> but informatics is there as well
14:24 < Yoda> just looking out on the meadows
14:24 < Yoda> paul, what are you doing here?
14:24 < Electron> just need to figure out dns/gateway/ip
14:24 <@pajh> informatics++
14:24 <@pajh> doing?
14:25 <@pajh> `doing', said Zebedee
14:25 < Yoda> aren't you supposed to be at work?
14:26 < Yoda> or aren't you working today
14:26 <@pajh> Nope.
14:26 < Yoda> Electron: that's really cool, sitting out in the meadows to do work
14:26 < Yoda> pajh: no work? or not working just now
14:26 < Electron> Yoda: problem is, I lose the signal when I sit
14:26 <@pajh> heheh
14:27 < Electron> I can get informatics when sitting, but they don't give me an ip because it's a staff network
14:27 < Yoda> lol, when you sit?
14:27 < Yoda> why?
14:27 < Electron> lose line of sight - bins and stuff in the way
14:28 < Yoda> so you can't sit on the grass? :(
14:28 < Yoda> what do you two think about "Compsoc and Gamesoc does Pub Golfing" then?
14:29 < Electron> sounds good
14:29 < Yoda> should be a really good laugh
14:29 < Yoda> just need to find 18 pubs in a row
14:29 < Electron> maybe
14:29 < Yoda> so probably the grassmakret then
14:29 <@pajh> Rose Street?
14:30 < Yoda> too dark
14:30 <@pajh> dark?
14:30 < Electron> dark?
14:30 < Yoda> and too far to walk home when druunk. Besides no chippys near it
14:30 <@pajh> loads of chippies on Rose Street.
14:30 < Yoda> is there?
14:30 <@pajh> well, at least one.
14:30 <@pajh> and a sushi bar.
14:30 < Yoda> one != loads
14:31 <@tef> lo
14:31 < Electron> eat before we go out then
14:31 < Yoda> hey tef
14:31 <@pajh> yo, tef.
14:31 < Yoda> u back?
14:31 < Electron> hi tef
14:31 < Yoda> was just discussing you not coming back after going to Amsterdam
14:32 < Yoda> who is that random bloke anyway
14:32 < Yoda> the old-ish one, with the beard
14:32 <@tef> well,i'in zandfoort
14:32 <@tef> and the spacekey is a bit fucked
14:33 < Yoda> well, i suppose i should go
14:33 <@pajh> Shouldn't you be here?
14:33 < Yoda> but i don't want to
14:33 <@tef> go where?
14:33 < Yoda> need to get more coffee
14:33 < Yoda> and more revision
14:34 < Yoda> damn finals!
14:34 < Yoda> we're like monkeys, jumping through hoops
14:34 < Yoda> but at least i get to get pissed tonight, so i'm not complaining too much
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14:37 < Yoda> right, am off, happy talking kiddies
14:38 <@pajh> I should head librarywards
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14:39 < Electron> erm, was Kate in ATL5?
14:40 < Electron> maybe not
14:41 <@pajh> She said she was in the library.
14:41 < Electron> yeah
14:41 < Electron> just the atl5-056 bit
14:41 <@pajh> Computers moved around when informatics moved into AT5, perhaps
14:41 < Electron> probably - all atl5 computers have .inf.ed.ac.uk hostnames
14:42 <@pajh> If she /was/ in atl5, the domain wouldn't be publab, surely.
14:42 < Electron> exactly
14:42 <@pajh> yeah, what you just said.
14:46 <@uberjoe> what exactly is pub golfing ?
14:46 < Electron> pub crawl with 18 pubs
14:46 <@pajh> do we get to wear plus-fours?
14:46 <@pajh> cos if so, I'm in.
14:47 <@uberjoe> hmm, I may need a caddy
14:49 <@pajh> isn't the point of golf to go round in the /least/ number of shots?
14:51 <@uberjoe> yup
14:51 <@pajh> So I could make a killing at pub golf by going round 18 holes and not drinking.
14:51 <@uberjoe> hmm, maybe each pub will have a par and you have to make par or better
14:52 <@tef-zandfort> heh
14:52 <@tef-zandfort> ithink imightjustgo to a coffeeshop now
14:52 <@uberjoe> for coffee ?
14:53  * uberjoe has discovered http://www.dieselsweeties.com/
14:59 <@tef-zandfort> heh
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16:06 < beaneater> hmm
16:06 < beaneater> why don't I know where zandfort is?
16:39 <@Yoda|Library> I'm back everyone
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16:39 <@Yoda> bloody hell, its 20 to 5 already
16:39 <@Yoda> pub golf - pub crawl with 18 pubs
16:41 < Electron> what I said
16:41 <@Yoda> yeah
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17:48 <@uberjoe> no particular rules about number of drinks consumed or is that just taking things too far ?
17:53 <@Electron> half-pints? :)
18:08 <@Electron> it would be *so* nice to be able to work in the meadows just now
18:08 <@Electron> Edinburgh is so beautiful in the sunshine
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20:52 <@beaneater> pajh.
20:52 < pajh> beaneater.
23:25 <@uberjoe> yargh
23:25 <@beaneater> /whois yargh
23:29 < pajh> uberjoe
23:30 <@beaneater> pajh
23:30 < pajh> beaneater!
23:30 <@beaneater> pajh!!1!
23:31 < pajh> uberjoe?
23:32 <@uberjoe> pajh.
23:32 <@uberjoe> sorry, was explaining why I am more p#34r50M3 than Cthulhu in #resnet
23:33 <@beaneater> Cthulhu is probably more fearsome in person (thingsome?) than on IRC
23:33 < pajh> Because you have a thousand and /one/ young?
23:34 <@uberjoe> pfft
23:34 <@uberjoe> I'll give him the whole "causing insanity on sight" thing
23:35 <@beaneater> what, he uses nasty ANSI codes?
23:35 <@uberjoe> not entirely sure - what I don't get is that if anyone who sees them goes mad, how do they really know what he looks like ?
23:36 <@uberjoe> I think it might just be a gimick
23:36 < pajh> He looks like this:
23:36 < pajh>   __
23:36 < pajh>  (o0)
23:36 < pajh>  /||\
23:36 < pajh> more or less.
23:36 <@uberjoe> hmm, thats not too bad
23:36 < pajh> Damn lack of c&p.
23:37 <@beaneater> pajh, do you have a plushy cthulu?
23:37 < pajh> no
23:37 < pajh> but I know where to get one
23:37 < pajh> which is almost as good
23:37 <@beaneater> I'm good
23:37 <@beaneater> I don't have a dust puppu, cthulu
23:37 < pajh> but when you're bad you're better.
23:38 <@beaneater> or whatever else I should have
23:38 <@beaneater> heh
23:38 <@beaneater> that too
23:38 < pajh> I have a dust puppy. Soon I shall have a moose of doom
23:38 < pajh> or possibly not a moose
23:38 <@beaneater> will there be mooses?
23:38 < pajh> but an ... of doom
23:38 <@beaneater> there should b mooses
23:38 <@uberjoe> ?
23:38 <@uberjoe> mooses ?
23:38 <@beaneater> if compsoc ever gets money, it should be invested in mooses
23:38 < pajh> Traditionally there's been no reason for it to be a moose.
23:39 < pajh> The original idea was to change every year.
23:39 <@beaneater> but the mooses dammit
23:39 <@uberjoe> hmm, would a yak or bison be acceptable ?
23:39 < pajh> I'm open to suggestions on which animal best represents `informatics'
23:39 <@beaneater> I liked the mooses
23:39 <@beaneater> they were cute
23:39 < pajh> I know where to get the mooses
23:39 <@beaneater> is it a secret?
23:40 <@beaneater> hmm
23:40 <@beaneater> I don't have any cuddly toys
23:40 <@beaneater> wonder what that says about me
23:42 <@uberjoe> what in general or our specific dept. ?
23:51 < pajh> Seriously, though. Wouldn't you prefer something other than a moose this time?
23:51 <@beaneater> I can't imagine it'd be as cute
23:51 < pajh> Something just as cute, but more Informaticsy?
23:51 < pajh> Informaticky
23:51 < pajh> Informatish?
23:51 <@beaneater> what could possibly be infy about a stuffed aminal?
23:51 < pajh> Informatesque.
23:51 <@beaneater> a stuffed gnu?
23:52 < pajh> Silly, Informatesque in the animal it represents.
23:52 < pajh> Penguins, gnus and bisons are taken.
23:52 < pajh> And wee demons, but I'm not sure you can get those anyway
23:52 <@beaneater> and yaks
23:52 <@uberjoe> daemons :)
23:53 <@beaneater> can't be OS-related
23:53 <@uberjoe> snakes are out
23:53 <@beaneater> why snakes?
23:53 <@uberjoe> python
23:53 <@beaneater> maybe cthulus
23:53 <@beaneater> oh
23:53 <@beaneater> (you know, we need to present the correct attitude)
23:55 < pajh> Snakes might be good.
23:56 <@beaneater> cthulus
23:56 < pajh> Guardians of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil, all that.
23:57 < pajh> and llamas and all associated ungulates.
23:59 <@uberjoe> llama probably not a great idea
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00:00 <@beaneater> isn't that mac-related?
00:00 <@beaneater> all I remember is SimCity was obsessed with llamas
00:00 <@uberjoe> its the whole llama/lamer thing
00:00 < pajh> no, it's llamas]
00:00 < pajh> that guy who codes llamas all the time
00:00 < pajh> head of llamasoft
00:00 <@uberjoe> which in itself is also pretty pathetic
00:00 < pajh> he has a whole llama thing going
00:01 <@beaneater> I heard that stuff started in the mac world
00:01 < pajh> llama. book. llama book.
00:01 <@beaneater> no, camels bad too
00:01 <@uberjoe> perl
00:01 <@beaneater> we need to go on a fluffy toy shopping trip
00:01 <@uberjoe> course thats due to o'reilly
00:02 <@uberjoe> hmm, lima ?
00:03 < pajh> How about an ibis?
00:03 < pajh> Or a mongoose?
00:03 <@beaneater> mongeese are fun
00:03 <@beaneater> polygeese
00:03 < pajh> polygoose.
00:03 <@beaneater> polygoose
00:04 < pajh> 'swhat I said.
00:04 <@uberjoe> hmm, we could see if gamesoc have a mascot and choose the natural predator of their mascot :)
00:04 <@beaneater> but this is not for compsoc, surely, but for cascade?
00:04 < pajh> but we're above all such petty one-upmanship.
00:04 < pajh> We shall choose an animal for it's relevance and natural beauty.
00:04 <@uberjoe> oh sorry, forgot all about that
00:05 <@uberjoe> and not the fact that it can crush and main most other beings ?
00:05 < pajh> It's for cascade and thence for the Division and thence Informatics across the WHOLE WORLD.
00:05 < pajh> and thence into space.
00:05 <@uberjoe> how about the manifold ?
00:05 <@beaneater> Cthulu I say
00:05 <@uberjoe> or you could go for the trademark friendly ktulu
00:06 <@beaneater> ouch
00:06 <@tef-zandfort> yo
00:06 <@uberjoe> worked for metallica
00:06 <@uberjoe> of course those were the days before they could do the sueing
00:07 <@beaneater> hey tef
00:07 <@uberjoe> such good days...
00:07 <@beaneater> how can you trademark an elder god?
00:07 <@uberjoe> well, they wrote a song called "the call of ktulu"
00:07 <@beaneater> I know
00:08 <@uberjoe> hmm, well I assume Lovecraft et al weren't too happy, or they were scared of upsetting them
00:09 <@uberjoe> hmm...
00:09 < pajh> I don't want to be religion-specific
00:10 <@tef-zandfort> im a rasta
00:10 <@beaneater> bolloks
00:10 <@beaneater> you just like the spliffage
00:12 <@uberjoe> http://www.encycmet.biz/songs/srktulu.shtml
00:12 <@uberjoe> full explanation down the bottom :)
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00:15 <@uberjoe> hmm
00:16 < pajh> |334|\|3473r
00:17 <@tef-zandfort> dont fear the reefer
00:17 < pajh> was just listening to that.
00:18 < pajh> you're in Holland, tef?
00:18 < pajh> Do they all speak Hollish?
00:18 < pajh> And why aren't you here and doing studying stuff?
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00:18 <@tef-zandfort> dutch sir
00:18 <@tef-zandfort> and english
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00:19 < pajh> and tobacco is called `shag'
00:19 < pajh> heheheheheheheheheheheheh
00:20 < pajh> ...had a lot of fun with that last time I was in Holland
00:20 <@tef-zandfort> and you can get a hlf shag, a fullshag nd an extra mind shag
00:20 <@tef-zandfort> heh
00:20 <@tef-zandfort> the tobbaco here is piss cheap
00:20 < pajh> `ere, mate. Gis a shag, I'll give you two tomorrow.
00:21 <@tef-zandfort> its likeit was 3,65 for 25 camel lights
00:21 <@tef-zandfort> 3 euros
00:21 < pajh> Bring us a couple of hundred?
00:21 <@tef-zandfort> i'l try sir
00:21 < pajh> Fabulous profits to be made. Save £££s.
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00:23 < pajh> 834|\|3473r!
00:23 < beaneater> grr
00:23 <@tef-zandfort> heh
00:24 <@tef-zandfort> they appologise for seeling to25g bags
00:24 <@tef-zandfort> sorry sir, we have not bigger
00:24 < pajh> so you've been off your face for how many consecutive days now?
00:26 <@tef-zandfort> lost cxoubt
00:27 <@tef-zandfort> came last thursday
00:28 <@tef-zandfort> anyway
00:28 <@tef-zandfort> time to roll ano ther spliff
00:28 <@tef-zandfort> and go home
00:29 < pajh> home home, or just home?
00:34 < beaneater> dammit I need to go for a trip and I won't be
00:34  * beaneater does an interpretive dance
00:49 <@uberjoe> hmm new rant on megatokyo
00:50 <@uberjoe> he almost sounds positive...
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00:53 < CLeaner> Hi
00:55 <@uberjoe> woah, this place is almost busy...
00:55 <@uberjoe> if it weren't so quiet that is...
00:55 < CLeaner> well, I am an invading gamesoc member
00:55 < CLeaner> so uberjoe, you up to the challenge?
00:56 <@uberjoe> doubt it but I'll probably tag along and laugh at the hard-core drinkers
00:57 < CLeaner> Erm, I don't know when this turned out to be pub golf, since it's blatently bowling
00:57 < CLeaner> but we can do both :)
00:58 <@uberjoe> what on earth is the difference ?
00:58 <@uberjoe> in the end its just drinking lots of beer in different pubs
01:00 < CLeaner> er, no, one involves lot's od different pubs, one involves one pub and 2 bowling alleys
01:00 <@uberjoe> oh
01:00 <@uberjoe> thats different, and possibly lethal
01:01 < CLeaner> it's olde style skittles with solid bowls and pins you have to pick up yourself
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01:10 <@uberjoe> hmm as opposed to the virtual kind...
02:23 < pajh> sodding bloody gamesoc
02:28 <@uberjoe> yeah!
02:29 <@uberjoe> them and their oxygen!
02:29 < pajh> I once beat a bunch of Royal Marine officers at skittles, but that was four years ago
02:29 <@uberjoe> nothing'll come of it I tell you...
02:29 <@uberjoe> hmm
02:29 < pajh> And the only pub with a skittle alley is the Sheep's Heid
02:29 <@uberjoe> hehehehe
02:29 <@uberjoe> nice name
02:30 < pajh> I prefer the idea of a drinkning contest. I'll paste the lot of them.
02:30 <@uberjoe> :)
02:30 < pajh> But I would much prefer the idea of not being in the same pub as them.
02:31 <@uberjoe> hmm... by any chance you don't have a fairly pathetic video card ?
02:31 < pajh> ?
02:31 < pajh> I forget which videa card I have
02:31 <@uberjoe> :)
02:31 < pajh> nvidia something
02:32 < pajh> why?
02:32 <@uberjoe> ah, just wondering if it was hardware envy :)
02:32 < pajh> no. It's having-a-brain elitism.
02:33 <@uberjoe> from what I hear of gamesoc the alpha geek is determined by fps rate
02:33 < pajh> I would prefer to spend several hours in a pub with people with whom I can converse.
02:33 <@uberjoe> you can converse with chimpansees you know
02:33 < pajh> "So, you seen the new Counterstrike mod?" "No." "..."
02:34 <@uberjoe> hmm, I tend to fit Gamesoc types in with the same kind of people who actually like football
02:35 <@uberjoe> in that its possible to get along, but there's something fundamentally wrong...
02:35 < pajh> Exactly.
02:36 <@uberjoe> I don't think they've beaten us at anything yet though
02:36 < pajh> that's because we've never competed. Or associated with them.
02:36 <@uberjoe> hmm
02:36 <@uberjoe> well if you count google battle :)
02:37 < pajh> there is that, of course
02:38 <@uberjoe> but I have this odd feeling that in a straight competition of physical ability we might be somewhat disadvantaged
02:38 <@uberjoe> and they are the competitive type as well...
02:38 < pajh> because they get exercise from lugging 17" monitors everywhere.
02:39 < pajh> And we're all Zen Buddhists who have transcended the material and determined that competition is vexatious to the spirit. Right.
02:39 <@uberjoe> is  that the official story ?
02:39 <@uberjoe> :)
02:40 < pajh> I think the official story may have to be an official communique that reads:
02:41 < pajh> "CompSoc would love to come and trounce you at drinking and/or skittles, but the truth is we can't be arsed."
02:41 <@uberjoe> kung compsoc ?
02:42 < pajh> Unfortunately, our president is a gamesco member
02:42 <@uberjoe> ah
02:42 <@uberjoe> I do believe we have a few charlatans in our midst
02:43 <@uberjoe> no not charlatans, traitors :)
02:43 <@uberjoe> charlatans just sounds better...
02:44 <@uberjoe> but not the band, they just wish they were the stone roses...
02:44 < pajh> this conversation is taking too much mental effort
02:44 < pajh> bed now, I think
02:44 <@uberjoe> probably a good idea
02:44 < pajh> later.
02:45 <@uberjoe> au revoir
04:38 <@Yoda|pub> hello
04:39 <@Yoda|pub> anyoje around
04:39 <@Yoda|pub> just got back form the pub
04:39 <@Yoda|pub> that's  a no thenms
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17:38 < beaneater> wtf.
17:49 < uberjoe>  dunno
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18:34 -!- pajh changed the topic of #compsoc to: ceci n'est pas un /topic
18:36 -!- uberjoe changed the topic of #compsoc to: ¬topic
18:37 -!- pajh changed the topic of #compsoc to: !topic
18:37 -!- uberjoe changed the topic of #compsoc to: Je ne suis pas une matičre, je suis un nombre
18:41 < pajh> qu'est que c'est en anglais matiere?
18:52 < uberjoe> topic
18:55 -!- pajh changed the topic of #compsoc to: Je ne suis pas une nombre, je suis un homme libre
18:56 < uberjoe> male book ?
18:56 < uberjoe> free man
18:56 < pajh> oui.
18:56 < uberjoe> bonne
18:57 < pajh> de rien.
18:57 < uberjoe> homme du libre ?
18:57 < uberjoe> d'accord
18:57 < pajh> non. un homme libre, pas un homme du libre.
18:59 < uberjoe> bah.
19:02 < uberjoe> je pense Cthulhu et une symbole phallic
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19:03 < uberjoe> yo
19:03 < uberjoe> cava ?
19:03 < pajh> Brut?
19:04 < Electron> lo
19:04 < uberjoe> Truth by Calvin Klein?
19:05 < Electron> pajh: who *is* that yohan person?
19:05 < pajh> johann. CSO. Your sysadmin.
19:05 < pajh> Pheer him.
19:05 < Electron> aha, so he's not a student - he works at the uni
19:06 < pajh> yarr.
19:06 < uberjoe> wench.
19:06 < pajh> PIE!
19:06 < uberjoe> mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
19:06 < uberjoe> pie.
19:07 < pajh> lo BOB
19:07 < Electron> hmm topic, I am not a number, I am a free man?
19:08 < pajh> Oui, bien sur.
19:08 < Electron> do I remember my french right
19:08 < Electron> ?
19:08 < Electron> :)
19:08 < uberjoe> branleur.
19:10 < uberjoe> tu es les tartes ?
19:10 < pajh> Nous voudraions des renseignements. Renseignements. Renseignements.
19:11 < uberjoe> je ne pas des renseignements
19:11 < uberjoe> mai, j'ai les tartes
19:12  * uberjoe hopes avoir does mean to own...
19:12  * uberjoe was rigt :)
19:14 < Electron> is tartes slow or late?
19:15 < Electron> too long since I used any French :)
19:16 < uberjoe> tartes is pie
19:16 < Electron> ah
19:19 < pajh> mmmm, les tartes!
19:21 < beaneater> bah
19:21 < beaneater> my desk light isn't lighting
19:22 < beaneater> wow, dodgy.
19:22 < uberjoe> hhehehe - how many Sound Engineers does it take to change a light bulb ?
19:22 < beaneater> I moved it because changing the bulb didn't work, and when I sat it down heavily it went on
19:23 < uberjoe> One, who repairs the old filament with tin foil and chewing gum, then reinstalls the light fixture 50' to left, where it was supposed to be in the first place
19:26 < uberjoe> How pygmy indians does it take to change a light bulb ?
19:27 < uberjoe> How *many* pygmy indians does it take to change a light bulb ?
19:27 < uberjoe> light bulb?
19:30 < uberjoe> why did the cat fall off the car roof ?
19:30 < uberjoe> cos it didn't have a high enough mu
20:26 < pajh> why did the cat fall out of the tree?
20:27 < pajh> because it was dead.
20:27 < pajh> why did the second cat fall out of the tree?
20:27 < pajh> because it was stapled to the first.
21:30 < uberjoe> whats big white and dangerous and sits in a tree ?
21:30 < uberjoe> A fridge
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23:31 < Yoda> ping pong?
23:31 < Leynos> eep
23:31 < Yoda> how goes?
23:31 < Leynos> Fine-ish
23:32 < Yoda> ish?
23:32 < Leynos> yeah
23:32 < Leynos> revision going...  not so well
23:32 < Yoda> btw, did u do ModSim?
23:33 < Leynos> nope
23:33 < Yoda> ok
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23:34 < Yoda> so, what's the chat?
23:35 < Leynos> Going to see Sunset Boulevard tomorrow with Scottie and Dhruba
23:35 < Electron> Yoda: coming to the LAN on Sunday, then?
23:35 < Yoda> cool
23:36 < Yoda> Electron: Depends, I found out that the team have a friendly on Sunday against some English team, and I was promised to get to play out of position
23:36 < Yoda> get to be a back for once!
23:37 < Electron> k
23:40 < Yoda> what's the chat then?
23:40 < Electron> NOTHING!
23:40 < Yoda> is Michael still not around?
23:40  * Yoda slaps meng|away around a bit with a large trout
23:43 < Yoda> Electron: Nothing? at all?
23:50 < Yoda> anyoen else up for a chat?
23:50 < Yoda> or is everyone doing work?
23:51 < uberjoe> yo
23:51 < Yoda> hey Mark
23:51 < Yoda> or Joe
23:51 < uberjoe> hows stuff ?
23:51 < Yoda> stuff is ok. Need to revise
23:51 < Yoda> but just came back from work
23:51 < Yoda> so need ppl to chill out with
23:52 < uberjoe> ah
23:52 < Yoda> yes, I am rather sad and lonely :(
23:53 < Yoda> u?
23:53 < uberjoe> well I couldn't get anyone to go watch a film, or for that matter do anything with me tonight
23:54 < Yoda> what were you planning to watch?
23:54 < Leynos> uberjoe == mark ?!?
23:55 < Yoda> Joe is his nickname, Mark is his real name
23:55 < Leynos> Not nine9 tho?
23:55 < Yoda> no no no
23:56 < Yoda> Joe doesn't talk anything like Mark does
23:56 < Leynos> fair 'nuff
23:57 < Yoda> how's Kinross nowadays? as fun as ever? I know Cowdenbeath is real exciting
23:57 < uberjoe> :)
23:58  * uberjoe just watched the full matrix trailer :)
23:58 < Yoda> good?
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00:00  * Leynos doesn't know how Kinross is, 'cos he never steps outside exept to re-stock on Haribo jellies
00:00 < uberjoe> yup
00:02 < Yoda> when is Matrix 2 and Xmen 2 out?
00:02 < uberjoe> 15th May for Matrix
00:03 < uberjoe> Sometime sooner for XMen 2
00:03 -!- Yoda changed the topic of #compsoc to: Which are you more excited about: Xmen 2 or Matrix 2?
00:03 < uberjoe> dumbass question
00:03 < uberjoe> sorry :)
00:04 < Yoda> y?
00:04 < Yoda> so?
00:04 < Yoda> which one?
00:04 < uberjoe> xmen is just an imitation of a pretty good comic book
00:04 < uberjoe> matrix is a distillation of geek pop-culture for the past decade or so
00:05 < uberjoe> plus, there are more guns
00:05 < Leynos> sounds about right
00:05 < Yoda> mmm
00:05 < Yoda> true
00:06 < uberjoe> I'd probably be more exciting about Xmen 2 if Matrix:Reloaded wasn't out just now
00:17 < Leynos> Matrix 2 should have a fight: Trinity vs The Woman In The Red Dress
00:20 < uberjoe> mud wrestling of course
00:20 < uberjoe> with LOTS of bullettime sequences
00:22 < uberjoe> hmm, Reloaded is rated R in America
00:22 < uberjoe> thats like an 18
00:27 < Leynos> R?
00:27 < Leynos> But kiddies get in if accompanied by an adult
00:28 < Leynos> better if there's no kiddies
00:31 < uberjoe> true
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01:16 < uberjoe> hmm, do canal boats have 12V sockets like cars or 13A plugs ?
01:17 < pajh> yes.
01:17 < pajh> or no.
01:17 < pajh> depends.
01:18 < Yoda> I really need to book this soon
01:18 < Yoda> i need to get a list of ppl definitely coming
01:18 < Yoda> definite enough to put a deposit down on the idea
01:18 < pajh> June 13--14 is slap bang in the middle of a major tour at work
01:19 < Yoda> June 16-20?
01:19 < pajh> won't be a problem
01:19 < pajh> That might be better, I'll check
01:19 < Yoda> that's when we'll do it
01:21 < uberjoe> hmm I should check when my exams are
01:21 < Yoda> it won't be later than 18th
01:21 < Yoda> that's week 10
01:27 < Yoda> seriously, whose coming
01:27 < Yoda> Paul, you're definitely in right?
01:27 < Yoda> is Alex and Gary going to come?
01:31 < uberjoe> looks like my last exam will be on 7th June
01:31 < pajh> Who knows? not I.
01:31 < pajh> They're big boys, they can speak for themselves.
01:32 < Yoda> since they're your flatmates, can you ask them?
01:32 < Yoda> pls?
01:36 < pajh> pie?
01:36 < Yoda> ?
01:37 < pajh> PIE!
01:37 < Yoda> what? 
01:37 < uberjoe> he only asks for 3.14 pie I belive
01:37 < pajh> pie pie pie pie pie pie pie.
01:37 < pajh> mmmmmmm, pie
01:38 < pajh> or cash equivalent.
01:38 < pajh> now with added WOOD!
01:38 < Yoda> A long long time ago, I can still remember
01:38 < Yoda> how that music used to make me smile
01:38 < uberjoe> hmm
01:39 < uberjoe> loud noises in corridor
01:39 < uberjoe> girls voices...
01:39 < Yoda> And I knew if I had my chance
01:39 < uberjoe> two of them
01:40 < Yoda> That I could make those people dance
01:40 < Yoda> And maybe they'd be happy for a while
01:40 < Yoda> But February made me shiver
01:40 < Yoda> With every paper I'd deliver
01:40 < Yoda> Bad news on the doorstep
01:40 < Yoda> I couldn't take one more step
01:40 < Yoda> I can't remember if I cried
01:40 < Yoda> When I read about his widowed bride
01:40 < Yoda> But something touched me deep inside
01:40 < Yoda> The day the music died
01:40 < Yoda> Bye-bye, Miss American Pie
01:40 < Yoda> Drove my chevy to the levee
01:40 < Yoda> But the levee was dry
01:40 < Yoda> And them good old boys were drinkin' whiskey and rye
01:40 < Yoda> Singin' this'll be the day that I die
01:40 < Yoda> This'll be the day that I die
01:40 < pajh> oi. c&p is cheating.
01:40 < Yoda> well, you did say pie
01:40 < pajh> Did you write the book of love
01:40 < pajh> And do you have faith in God above
01:40 < Yoda> i know, but i couldn't be bothered after line 3
01:40 < pajh> If the Bible tells you so?
01:41 < pajh> Reminds me, I need to rip that.
01:42 < Yoda> the Bible? or American Pie?
01:42 < Leynos> My my, this here Anakin guy
01:42 < pajh> This canal boat trip is missing something
01:42 < pajh> and that thing is this:
01:42 < Leynos> Maybe Vader someday later, but just now he's small fry
01:42 < pajh> proportionate females.
01:43 < pajh> No Wierd Al in the main channel, please.
01:43 < Leynos> okay
01:43 < Leynos> In Soviet Russia, when pie come back, it bring YOU
01:43 < Yoda> well Paul, if you want to invite female friends, do so
01:43 < pajh> Leynos++
01:44 < pajh> You have any idea of the origin of that memeform?
01:44 < Leynos> Some comedy sketch in America
01:44 < pajh> Fate conspires against me. As the CompSoc female, the responsibility falls to YOU.
01:44 < Yoda> but I can't do that to any of my current friends because for some reason, everyone thinks I hang around with geeks who don't get any, not very often either
01:44 < uberjoe> ?
01:45 < Leynos> Originally "In LA, you can always find a party.  In Soviet Russia, the party can always find YOU."
01:45 < Leynos> E2 explains all
01:46 < pajh> K8: are you suggesting that you wouldn't /subject/ your friends to us?
01:46 < Leynos> heh
01:46 < Yoda> yeah!
01:47 < Yoda> come on Paul, you have no chance with any of them
01:48 < Yoda> even our coach left because he couldn't shag any of the team
01:48 < Yoda> besides, they would never talk to me again, if i had to subject them to that
01:48 < Yoda> but you just invite ppl if you want
01:48 < pajh> oi.
01:48 < Yoda> that's no problem
01:49 < Yoda> as long as you get me a final list sometime
01:49 < pajh> When did I give even the slightest intimation that sex had in any way entered my thoughts?
01:49 < pajh> If I wanted to spend four days in a confined space with guys, I could stay at home.
01:50 < Leynos> It's kind of assumed
01:50 < uberjoe> hehe
01:50 < pajh> I find your lack of faith... disturbing.
01:50 < Leynos> heh
01:50 -!- Leynos changed the topic of #compsoc to: <pajh> If I wanted to spend four days in a confined space with guys, I could stay at home.
01:51 < Yoda> what do you want me to do?
01:51 < Yoda> invite a bunch of rugby girls?
01:51 < Leynos> ^^;
01:51 < Yoda> like that would be enjoyable for you
01:52 < Yoda> you're one of those guys that ... well, you're like Chandler in Friends
01:52 < uberjoe> hehehehehe
01:52 < Yoda> and hopefully you'll get my point
01:52 < pajh> I was thinking along the lines of cute rugby girls, i.e. avoiding the giant bulky lesbian rugby-player thype girls.
01:52 -!- Leynos changed the topic of #compsoc to: Compsoc goes boating.  Down a canal.  And stuff
01:52 < pajh> Whaddayamean, I'm like Chandler in Friends?
01:52 < pajh> Specify.
01:52 < pajh> Like, NOW
01:53 < Leynos> Actually, I liked that other topic better
01:54  * Leynos consults E2
01:54 < pajh> Will you all please note the BiCapitalisation?
01:54 < pajh> Kate!
01:54 -!- Leynos changed the topic of #compsoc to: CompSoc goes boating.  Down a canal.  And stuff
01:54 < pajh> I am NOT like Chandler in Friends. That is so NOT true.
01:54 < Yoda> sorry, was chatting to someone NOT self obessed as you
01:54 < Yoda> you are
01:54 < pajh> ooh, handbags.
01:54 < pajh> How so?
01:55 < Yoda> you take a while to get used to, but when ppl get to know you, you are very sweet and intelligent
01:55 < Yoda> until then, you seem really arrogant and self-obessed
01:55 < Yoda> (sp?)
01:55 < pajh> If you don't mind, I think I'll take that, on balance, as a compliment.
01:56 < Yoda> good, cos I don't know whether that's good or bad
01:56 < Yoda> either rugby girls or management scientist who haven't even heard of Quake before
01:56 < Yoda> QUAKE! for f*** sake
01:57 < Yoda> that's like not knowing what a mouse is!
01:57 < pajh> You're learning, K8
01:57  * Leynos would hate to be stuck in a boat with a bunch of people obsessed with stuff he doesn't know about or understand
01:57 < pajh> management == {clueless,evil}
01:58 < Yoda> that is so not true
01:58 < pajh> Leynos: everyone is obsessed with something you don't understand. Dealing with it is called `Life'.
01:58 < uberjoe> {clueless,evil,dumb}
01:58 < pajh> dumb \subset clueless
01:59 < uberjoe> stricly dumb \subset disablity
01:59 < Leynos> Some things can be worked around tho, others can't
02:00 < pajh> In that case, dumb \not gobshite, management == {clueless,evil,gobshite}
02:00 < Yoda> hey hey hey, we do have management scientist in the house at the moment
02:00 < pajh> Sports and computer games are among the most difficult.
02:00 < pajh> But you'
02:01 < pajh> re a clueful management scientist.
02:01 < pajh> We're not talking about you.
02:01 < pajh> We're talking about the typical ones.
02:01  * Yoda feels a bit relieved
02:01 < Leynos> Fucking hell.  How is it 2 AM already?
02:01 < pajh> But do us all a favour: promise never to take an MBA.
02:01 < Leynos> Yeah.  Never do an MBA
02:02 < Yoda> not unless i get accepted into Southampton uni
02:02 < Leynos> That's a one way ticket to a messed up mind
02:02 < Yoda> what Southampton Uni?
02:02 < Leynos> MBA
02:02 < Yoda> Dave, you've told me this story about 10 times already
02:02 < Leynos> I know
02:02 < Leynos> But it's true
02:03 < pajh> Note: Mba is one of the main reasons I don't talk to my ex-brother.
02:03 < Yoda> that and the fact that he is sucessful, peut-etre?
02:04 < pajh> Don't even try, Kate. You have no conception of the myriad reasons behind my avoidance of my thoroughly dysfunctional family unit.
02:05 < pajh> Nor, and you'll have to trust me on this one, do you even want to know.
02:05 < pajh> So don't ask.
02:05 < pajh> Save yourself the unknowable PAIN.
02:06 < Yoda> i will
02:06 < Yoda> lets move on
02:06 < pajh> yes, let's.
02:06 < Yoda> this boat trip
02:07 < pajh> aaaagh. Fucking SpamAssassin.
02:07 < Yoda> i want to sort something out now, otherwise apathy will get the better of us
02:07 < Yoda> and nothing gets done
02:07 < Yoda> as usual
02:07 < Leynos> What should be the punishment for spammers?
02:08 -!- Yoda changed the topic of #compsoc to: The MATCHED project : the Most Ambitious Thing Compsoc Has Ever tried Doing
02:08 < pajh> matched?
02:08 < Yoda> no real email, only spam for life
02:08 < Yoda> i know, Michael came up with it, blame him
02:09 < Leynos> Meeting in a pub : the Most Ambitious Thing Compsoc Has Ever tried Doing
02:09  * Yoda slaps Leynos around a bit with a large trout
02:09 < Yoda> that's for mocking us
02:09 < Leynos> j/k
02:09 < pajh> I think they should first be part-strangled with their own feet. Then, while conscious, fed slowly into a mincing machine, feet first.
02:09 < Leynos> While being forced to listen to UK garage
02:10 < Yoda> no, no, being forced to listen to cheese
02:10 < Yoda> bad cheese
02:10 < pajh> what is a matched project?
02:10 < Leynos> cheese is good tho
02:10 < Yoda> while sober
02:10 < Yoda> if(person.equals(sober)) cheese != good 
02:11 < Yoda> MATCHED : Compsoc Goes Boating
02:11 < Yoda> we could have ...
02:11 < Yoda> MATCHED <number>: <next project>
02:11 < pajh> if(person.isSober()) surely?
02:12 < pajh> is MATCHED acronymic?
02:12 < Yoda> well ... maybe, but then you would have to specify a sober variable
02:12 < Leynos> ah
02:12 < Yoda> but with equals(...) you can have a large amount of states
02:12 < Yoda> each representing a different state of mind, yet with only one variable
02:13 < uberjoe> if(person.drunk == false) cheese != good
02:13 < pajh> That's the same as mine
02:13 < Yoda> exactly
02:13 < uberjoe> hmm suppose so but its the opposite
02:14 < pajh> it's semantically equivalent
02:14 -!- Yoda changed the topic of #compsoc to: TARFC 1 : Compsoc Goes Boating
02:14 < uberjoe> yup
02:14 < pajh> TARFC?
02:14 < Yoda> The Alternate RFC
02:14 < uberjoe> uhg...
02:14 < Yoda> or maybe Compsoc RFCs - CompRFC?
02:14 -!- Yoda changed the topic of #compsoc to: CompRFC 1 : Compsoc Goes Boating
02:15 < Yoda> not good?
02:15 < pajh> not extensible
02:15 < Yoda> do expand
02:15 < Leynos> I'm going to be killed by Dhruba.  I still haven't watched any of the DVDs he lent me in December
02:16 < pajh> suggest local RFC, restricted-relevance RFC, or similar
02:16 < Yoda> ?
02:16 < Yoda> sorry, do get what you're saying ...
02:16  * Yoda feeling thick
02:16 < pajh> actually, I suggest we change the title to something funny./
02:17 < pajh> Moriarty, time for your owwwwwww.
02:17 < Yoda> how's that funny?
02:18 < pajh> There's no metric for funny.
02:18 < pajh> I put it to you: how is "This week I'll be mostly eating beef" funny?
02:18 < Yoda> that's what you think
02:18 < Yoda> it depends
02:19 -!- Yoda changed the topic of #compsoc to: Helpful Greeting Tip #476: It is not clever to greet your friend by asking "How's your wife and my kids?"
02:19 < Yoda> how's that?
02:19 < pajh> That's pretty good
02:20 -!- Yoda changed the topic of #compsoc to: The cucumber in the pants trick will not lead to the "shock and awe" reaction your were expecting. Luckily, grandma has been taking her heart medication.
02:20 < pajh> That's just silly.
02:21 < Yoda> sorry
02:21 < Yoda> will change it back
02:21 -!- uberjoe changed the topic of #compsoc to: pie
02:21 < pajh> mmmmmm, pie!
02:21 < Yoda> boring
02:21 < pajh> heretic!
02:21 < pajh> there is no interest... without pie.
02:21 < pajh> Shakespeare.
02:22 < uberjoe> hehe
02:22 < Yoda> is there a CogSoc?
02:23 -!- Leynos changed the topic of #compsoc to: ¼
02:23 < Yoda> I'm just thinking, if there is, we can form CompSoc, AISoc and CogSoc into the Axis of Evil Informatic Societies
02:23 < pajh> There is no CogSoc, but we'll be it, soon
02:24 < Yoda> shall we form one, then merge it with Compsoc afterwards
02:24 < pajh> No need
02:24 < Yoda> how?
02:24 < Yoda> or why>
02:24 < Yoda> ?
02:24 < pajh> As the de facto Informatics soc, we automatically inherit the mantle of CogSci along with all other sub-branches of the discipline
02:25  * Yoda runs to the kitchen for a glass of water
02:27 < Yoda> but we need 3 things to form an axis
02:27 < Yoda> don't we?
02:28 < pajh> Marty! You're not thinking n-dimensionally!
02:28 < uberjoe> if you want to be pure evil you could involve Gamesoc :)
02:28 < Yoda> the word "Gamesoc" is now forever banned from Compsoc conversations
02:29 < Yoda> starting from now
02:29 < uberjoe> hehehehe :)
02:29 < uberjoe> ok, that society which all the gamers go to...
02:29 < uberjoe> the G word
02:29 < Yoda> yes
02:29 -!- uberjoe changed the topic of #compsoc to: Don't say the G word, its not nice
02:30 -!- pajh changed the topic of #compsoc to: Don't say the G word, its not nice <-- That's the word that ends in `-soc', not `-spot'.
02:30 < Yoda> do men have G spots?
02:31 < Yoda> or am i clueless in this?
02:31 < uberjoe> hmm, the last time I ever read about this, apparently not all women have them
02:32 < pajh> new research from the University of Sheffield shows that not even women have G-spots.
02:32 < pajh> Apparently the whole area is a `G-zone', but there's no specific spot.
02:33 < uberjoe> thats not particularly enlightening
02:33 < pajh> One wonders a) how they got the funding to do this research and b) why they didn't just ask me and spend the funding on beer.
02:33 < uberjoe> even if it was a spot, focus on a significantly small enough area and it becomes a zone
02:35 < Yoda> soo true
02:35 < Yoda> hard to define between zone and spot
02:35 < pajh> That's a computer scientist talking
02:36 < pajh> `The' G-spot was a specific area towards the front of the pelvic wall iirc, reputed by Grafenberg to have special pysiological properties.
02:36 < pajh> The spot, this new research suggests, is mythical, but those properties are applicable to the entire vaginal region.
02:36 < pajh> Hence, it's not a spot.
02:37 < uberjoe> hmm
02:37 < uberjoe> so they basically sat and tried to stimulate women ?
02:37 < Yoda> i can't disagree
02:37 < Yoda> Joe, I think they have more sophisticated techniques than that
02:38 < uberjoe> such as ?
02:38 < Yoda> they have blood flow counter/sensors
02:38 < Yoda> stick it on a region
02:38 < pajh> blood flow != orgasm
02:38 < Yoda> and measure blood flow
02:38 < Yoda> the higher the blood flow, the more stimulated it was
02:38 < pajh> There are more reliable tests
02:39 < uberjoe> ok, but surely the point is to see how the blood flow rate changes when you change some other factor ?
02:39 < Yoda> didn't you ever see "Everything about Lesbians but were afraid to ask"
02:39 < uberjoe> namely how stimulated the women is ?
02:39 < uberjoe> for about 5 minutes
02:40 < Yoda> yeah
02:40 < uberjoe> after 5 minutes the novelty wears off
02:40 < Yoda> you try and arouse them for a while
02:40 < pajh> 5 minutes?
02:40 < Yoda> and measure blood flow]
02:41 < Yoda> i watched the whole thing, only because so many of my mates are gay, I felt like it was an educational thing
02:41 < uberjoe> I dunno, after that its only the fact you have no men getting in the way that counts
02:41 < uberjoe> ah, so you do try to stimulate them
02:41 < Yoda> make them watch porn videos
02:42 < uberjoe> ahhh
02:42 < pajh> I try, but what's the use?
02:42 < Yoda> nm
02:43 < pajh> Diary entry 9th of May '62: we had some ugly babies, but none were quite like you.
02:44 < uberjoe> ??
02:44 < pajh> Diary entry '62 end of May: it looks as if the nose and chin are definitely here to stay
02:44 < pajh> They're here to stay.
02:45 < Yoda> right, off to bed
02:45 < Yoda> nn guys
02:46 < pajh> night.
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02:53 < pajh> bed also for me, I fear
02:55 < uberjoe> dropping like flies...
03:38 < Leynos> Sleeeeeep
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18:06 < pajh> Least popular. IRC channel. Ever.
18:06 < beaneater> is. not.
18:07 < pajh> You can be sure I was on the internet within minutes expressing my disgust.
18:07 < beaneater> heh
18:07 < beaneater> http://beaneater.demon.co.uk/ircstats/compsoc.html
18:07 < pajh> ack. Also least populated. ICQ contacts list. Ever.
18:08 < beaneater> the empty contacts list?
18:08 < pajh> oui.
18:09 < beaneater> Well I'm busy approximating real roots of polynomials. Yourself?
18:10 < pajh> drinking beer.
18:10 < beaneater> bastard.
18:12 < pajh> I've had a long hard day at work. It's Easter and Room 11 is Castle Anthrax.
18:12 < beaneater> is what now?
18:12 < pajh> I need b33r.
18:13 < pajh> It's not a very nice name, is it?
18:13 < pajh> Oh, but we are fun.
18:13 < pajh> Naughty, wicked, evil Zoot.
18:13 < beaneater> I'll take your word.
18:13 < pajh> Let me go back and face the peril. You can't, it's too perilous.
18:13 < pajh> That Castle Anthrax,.
18:14 < beaneater> hmm. if I mention http://beaneater.demon.co.uk/ircstats/compsoc.html again
18:15 < beaneater> then http://beaneater.demon.co.uk/ircstats/compsoc.html will get listed on http://beaneater.demon.co.uk/ircstats/compsoc.html
18:15 < pajh> then it'll be the top-listed url?
18:15 < beaneater> depending how many times http://beaneater.demon.co.uk/ircstats/compsoc.html is mentioned, possibly.
18:15 < beaneater> That should do it.
18:16 < beaneater> recursion, n: see recursion
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18:20 < pajh> A spanking! A spanking!
18:21 < beaneater> was that a request?
18:21 < pajh> No, just a wild stab in the dark... which incidentally is what you'll be getting if you're not a little more helpful.
18:21 < beaneater> Since when am I not helpful?
18:21  * pajh appears to have lapsed into OQD again.
18:22 < beaneater> OQD?
18:22 < pajh> Obsessive Quote Disorder.
18:23 < pajh> I pity the fool who doesn't know what OQD is.
18:34 < uberjoe> so apparently I'm dumb
18:36 < beaneater> of course dear
18:37  * uberjoe sniffles
19:40 < pajh> who driving? Oh my god, bear driving! How can that be?
19:40 < beaneater> ?
19:41 < pajh> If she were a President she'd be Baberaham Lincoln.
19:48 < pajh> The white whale! The whiiiiiiite wh... no, no, my mistake! A black whale! A regular blaaaaaack whale!
20:02 < uberjoe> tent-pole
20:03 < pajh> I don't want to know who you use, as long as they're not complete muppets.
20:04 < beaneater> well that brings the total number of quotes I completely recognise to one.
20:04 < beaneater> <-!buff
20:06 < pajh> It's the power that excites me, Mr Steed. I want to be ill-mannered. And rude and uncouth. And order people about. Especially women. I look forward to being excessively rude to a great number of handsome women!
20:25 < pajh> <throat>Oh, blimey.</throat>
21:18 < pajh> Ying tong iddle-i-po.
21:20 < beaneater> heh.
21:24 < uberjoe> .fnord, the invisible file type
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00:23 -!- There is no such nick #compsoc
00:55 -!- Yoda [Yoda@ppp47-37.dial.nildram.co.uk] has joined #compsoc
00:58 < Yoda> ping
00:58 < Yoda> ?
00:58 < Yoda> anyone around for some idle pointless banter?
01:00 < beaneater> no
01:00 < beaneater> ;)
01:00 < Yoda> no available or not around?
01:00 < beaneater> yes
01:01 < Yoda> to both questions?
01:01 < beaneater> going to bed soon actually
01:02 < Yoda> this early? its only one o'clock
01:06 < beaneater> well
01:06 < beaneater> I'm going to read some notes for a while
01:07 < beaneater> and I need to try hard to keep non-nocturnal
01:07 < beaneater> damned exams keeping me non-nocturnal :(
01:07 < Yoda> might be better off that way though ...
01:08 < beaneater> no, I'm more productive nocturnal
01:09 < Yoda> why is that?
01:09 < beaneater> when exams are over I can not worry so much about times and just worry about doing things, which suits me better
01:09 < Yoda> just a habit?
01:09 < beaneater> I just find it easier to work in the dead of night
01:09 < beaneater> no
01:09 < beaneater> when I have unstructured work especially
01:10 < beaneater> like revision or project, rather than the normal run of things.
01:10 < Yoda> such as revision?
01:10 < beaneater> yes
01:11 < Yoda> the project, another source of woe
01:12 < beaneater> anyway, as I say I'm going to read notes.
01:12 < beaneater> good night
01:13 < Yoda> night
01:23 < Electron> nn
01:25 < uberjoe> hello :)
01:26 < Yoda> yo Joe
01:28 < uberjoe> sup ?
01:28 < Yoda> tired and need alcohol and good chat
01:29 < uberjoe> hmm, you're not going to get any of that here :)
01:30 < Yoda> i know, that depresses me even more
01:30 < Electron> heh
01:31 < Yoda> right, am off to bed
01:31 < uberjoe> probably a good idea
01:31 < Yoda> too tiring
01:32 < Electron> well I seem to have kind-of sorted my sleeping pattern at last
01:33 < Electron> didn't fall asleep at 7pm tonight \o/
01:37 < uberjoe> hehe
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14:33 < uberjoe> yey
14:33 < uberjoe> 12 hours of complete silence
14:33  * uberjoe -> shower
14:35  * beaneater -> insanity
14:40 -!- You're now known as meng
14:40 <@meng> foo
14:51 < beaneater> bar
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14:57 -!- Topic for #compsoc: Don't say the G word, its not nice <-- That's the word that ends in `-soc', not `-spot'.
14:57 -!- Topic set by pajh!~pajh@nasal.demon.co.uk [Sat Apr 19 02:30:31 2003]
14:57 [Users #compsoc]
14:57 [ beaneater] [ Electron] [ meng] [ pajh] [ tef] [ uberjoe] 
14:57 -!- Irssi: #compsoc: Total of 6 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 6 normal]
14:57 -!- Channel #compsoc created Mon Apr 14 09:20:30 2003
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20:29 < beaneater> nasal demons!
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23:02 < Yoda> ping ping ping pong
23:02 < Yoda> anyone there?
23:18 < beaneater> nonono
23:18 < Yoda> ?
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23:34 < beaneater> 'ning pajh
23:34 < Yoda> Paul, are you on #everything ? irc.slashnet.org?
23:35 < beaneater> damned everythingians  ;)
23:35  * Yoda retreats to the corner
23:36 < beaneater> damned gcd
23:36 < pajh> not yet
23:36 < pajh> in a minute
23:36 < Yoda> k, just wondering
23:36 < pajh> why?
23:37 < Yoda> nothing, first time in there, Mark isn't on, and you weren't there either
23:37  * Yoda feels a bit lonely
23:37  * beaneater has the depressing dishonour of having been on the slashdot irc chan
23:37 < pajh> da-daaaah.
23:38 < Yoda> i see you
23:38 < Yoda> ha
23:38 < Yoda> depressing dishonour - why?
23:39 < beaneater> *slashdot*
23:39 < beaneater> plus *IRC*
23:39 < beaneater> Do i need to spell it out?
23:41 < pajh> slashnet != slashdot
23:41 < beaneater> slashdot == slashdot
23:41 < pajh> what time is it?
23:41 < Yoda> 23.42
23:41 < beaneater> 23:41-23:42
23:42 < beaneater> 23:42-23:42
23:42 < pajh> So it's still Sunday.
23:42 < Yoda> yeah
23:43 < Yoda> why? don't you know?
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23:53 < beaneater> pumpkins
23:54 < Yoda> pumpkins?
23:54 < beaneater> pumpkins.
23:55  * Yoda wonders whats going on
23:55 < beaneater> carriages, pumpkins, the whole fairy tale.
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23:56 < Yoda> its not 12 yet
23:56 < beaneater> approaching.
23:57 < pajh> testing
23:57 < beaneater> replying
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23:57 < Yoda> lol
23:58 -!- pajh [~pajh@nasal.demon.co.uk] has joined #compsoc
23:59 < pajh> locale problems, methinks.
23:59 < pajh> Will make Gary deal with it tomorrow.
23:59 < Yoda> to do what?
23:59 < pajh> fix0r it.
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00:07 < pajh> oi, Kate. What have you been saying about me on slashnet?
00:07 < Yoda> nothing
00:07 < Yoda> i wouldn't dare
00:07  * Yoda grins
00:07  * Yoda grins widely ...
00:08 < pajh> stop it.
00:08 < beaneater> yeah, my ls suddenly doesn't like colours
00:18 < uberjoe> 23:46 < Yoda> 23.42
00:18 < uberjoe> 23:46 < beaneater> 23:41-23:42
00:18 < uberjoe> 23:46 < beaneater> 23:42-23:42
00:18 < uberjoe> hmm, something is screwed up
00:18 < uberjoe> I'd assume its my computer clock
00:19 < Yoda> i would assume so too
00:19 < Yoda> what's the time now?
00:19 < uberjoe> or it could be someone has trapped me in a time vortex 4 minutes ahead of everyone else
00:19 < beaneater> 00:19
00:19 < beaneater> just sync'd with ntp
00:19 < uberjoe> did I just unconciously type in l33t ?
00:19 < Yoda> that would be a more interesting explaination
00:22 < uberjoe> whoever it was hould really own up
00:23 < Yoda> wasn't me, i'm a bit preoccupied just now ..
00:27 < uberjoe> ok, thats a decent alibi I suppose
00:27  * uberjoe goes searching for evil warlocks of suspicious natures
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00:38 < Yoda> just the 5 of us
00:38 < beaneater> and I'm asleep
00:39 < Yoda> wow, sleep-typing
00:41 < beaneater> I'm an impressive guy
00:42 < Yoda> cool
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00:45 < Yoda> am back!
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01:02 < Yoda> joe
01:03 < Yoda> why are you back?
01:04 < uberjoe> cos dell266 is back up :)
01:04 < uberjoe> hmm, no ops
01:04 < Yoda> no ops at all
01:04 < Yoda> can we op ourselves
01:04 < Yoda> ^sounds painful
01:04 < uberjoe> ask kev
01:05 < Yoda> i'm scared
01:05 < Yoda> don't want to
01:05 < uberjoe> hehe, we don't need no ops atm
01:05 < uberjoe> so, gordon brown eh ?
01:05 < Yoda> yeah
01:05 < Yoda> isn't that cool?
01:05 < uberjoe> I may have walked past the italian rugby squad, or jsut some really dedicated italian rugby fans
01:05 < Yoda> he parked in my parking space, outside my house
01:06 < Yoda> in Scotland?
01:06 < uberjoe> yes
01:06 < Yoda> today?
01:06 < uberjoe> I was assuming they played scotland at some point this weekend
01:06 < uberjoe> tis possible I'm very very wrong
01:06 < Yoda> ...
01:07 < Yoda> well, there 6 Nation game was about 4/5 weeks ago
01:07 < Yoda> unless they came back for a re-match ...
01:07 < uberjoe> dunno
01:07 < uberjoe> just a lot of big italians with rugby training jackets on
01:09 < pajh> kATE, shut up.
01:09 < pajh> um
01:09 < pajh> kate, SHUT UP
01:09 < pajh> that was meant to say
01:09 < uberjoe> CAPS LOCK IS EVIL!!!!
01:10 < pajh> you too.
01:10 < Yoda> what? why?
01:10 < uberjoe> when? where? how?
01:10 < Yoda> what have i done?
01:10 < pajh> testosterone soaked fuck bunny?
01:10 < uberjoe> with a cucumber ?
01:10 < Yoda> lol
01:11 < Yoda> i like the cucumber touch, well done Joe
01:11 < uberjoe> I kinda have a thing for cucumbers
01:11 < uberjoe> I'd prefer not to get into it
01:11  * Yoda looks around
01:12 < Yoda> do u really want ppl to know that?
01:12 < pajh> no more talking about me when I'm not there.
01:12 < pajh> or when I am there.
01:12 < pajh> I prefer to create my own impressions without unsolicited assistance.
01:12 < uberjoe> (pajh smells...)
01:12  * uberjoe whistles
01:12 < pajh> even if, and we've been over this ground, I come across as really arrogant and self-obsessed.
01:12 < pajh> and like Chandler from Friends.
01:12 < Yoda> lol
01:13 < pajh> which is so NOT true.
01:13 < Yoda> can i c&p this?
01:13 < pajh> Do you want to to come over there and gag you with a JCB?
01:13 < uberjoe> hmm, if you were chandler it would be "which is SO not true"
01:13 < pajh> uberjoe: I think you'll find you're wrong.
01:14 < uberjoe> yup, coudln't think of a way to rephrase with the word "be" though
01:14 < uberjoe> or "BE" as it would become
01:14 < Yoda> good one Joe
01:15 < Yoda> hit him when he's down
01:17 < uberjoe> I'd stay to have more fun, but I should probably get up for my lectures in the morning
01:18 < Yoda> lectures are for wimps
01:18 < Yoda> you don't need to know any
01:18 < uberjoe> tis maths though
01:19 < uberjoe> maths sucks
01:19 < Yoda> ok, if its maths, i'll let you off
01:19 < uberjoe> and electronics, but thats kinda easy
01:20 < uberjoe> more so than CS which is surprising
01:20 < Yoda> v surprising
01:20 < Yoda> what do you learn there? is it just electronic diagrams and crap
01:20 < uberjoe> ways of analysing circuits
01:20 < uberjoe> what certain components do
01:21 < Yoda> what degree are you doing then?
01:21 < Yoda> CS & Electronics?
01:21 < uberjoe> MEng Elec & CS
01:21 < Yoda> oh
01:21 < Yoda> is Elec Eng your main degree then?
01:21 < uberjoe> officially
01:21 < Yoda> as in you'll get your degree awarded from the Engineering Dept?
01:22 < uberjoe> yup
01:22 < uberjoe> but I can become a member of the IEEE and the BCI if I really want :)
01:22 < Yoda> cool
01:22 < Yoda> I can be a member of .... BCS
01:23 < Yoda> not as cool
01:23 < uberjoe> ooh its a society
01:23 < uberjoe> hmmm, IEEE is a bit cooler :)
01:23 < uberjoe> they set standards
01:23 < uberjoe> fun
01:23 < Yoda> IEEE is wayyyyyy cool
01:27 < uberjoe> cool :)
01:28 < uberjoe> right I'm off to bed
01:28 < Yoda> k, night mate
01:28 < Yoda> sweet dreams
01:28 < uberjoe> to dream of standardising stuff when I'm older
01:28 < uberjoe> man that'll be cool
01:28 < uberjoe> cya :)
01:29 < Yoda> lol
01:59 < pajh> Kate, what was Gordon Brown doing outside your house?
02:02 < pajh> Where is everyone?
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03:01 < pajh> ack, you people suck.
03:01 < pajh> Entertain me!
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08:04 < Electron> beaneater: you synchronised with a UTC source using Christian's algorithm and the Pull method?
09:34 < beaneater> eh?
11:53 < Electron> you were talking about synchronsing your clock with ntp
11:53 < beaneater> yup
11:53 < Electron> and I'm studying DS and synchronising with time server etc
11:53 < beaneater> okay
11:53 < beaneater> I don't know shit
11:54 < Electron> you don't do DS?
11:54 < beaneater> I used ntpdate
11:54 < beaneater> no
11:54 < Electron> ah, ok
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14:30 < Yoda> ping? pong!
14:31 < beaneater> Hmm,
14:31 < beaneater> I guess I will need to register for graduation
14:32 < Yoda> are the forms up here yet?
14:32 < beaneater> up where?
14:32 < Yoda> at the registry
14:32 < beaneater> dunno
14:32 < Yoda> cos they were all down at KB last week
14:32 < beaneater> oh
14:32 < beaneater> supposedly 15 April - 2 May at the registry
14:32 < beaneater> or 15 - 17 april at Weir Building
14:33 < Yoda> i think they should be up here then ...
14:33 < beaneater> I hadn't thought about it at all
14:34 < Yoda> I think i might go in a sec actually
14:34 < Yoda> better to get it all done and dusted
14:34 < Yoda> hows the exams going Nick?
14:34 < beaneater> 2nd tomorrow
14:34 < beaneater> 3rd wed, 4th thurs
14:35 < Yoda> ouch
14:35 < Yoda> revising hard?
14:35 < beaneater> COC, CA, FPLS
14:35 < beaneater> obviously ;)
14:35 < beaneater> not at all on IRC]
14:35 < beaneater> -]
14:36 < Yoda> ;)
14:36 < Yoda> me either
14:36 < Yoda> just got my references back, so off to send my applications forms off
14:36 < Yoda> at last!
14:37 < beaneater> to where?
14:37 < Yoda> to the Uni!
14:37 < beaneater> my DoS has taken so long over references
14:37 < Yoda> not Edinburgh of course
14:37 < Yoda> really?
14:38 < Yoda> how long did he take?
14:38 < beaneater> I've had the person from the Graduate School on my back for ages
14:38 < beaneater> Well I don't know that they've recieved them yet
14:38 < Yoda> ouch, tell him off
14:38 < Yoda> mine done it in 3 days
14:38 < Yoda> then told me off today because i haven't picked them up yet
14:39 < beaneater> well on 7th march he said he'd do them and send them straight to the graduate school, and on the 17th April I managed to reach him by phone after ages trying 
14:39 < Yoda> WHAT! an entire month!
14:40 < beaneater> month and a half...
14:40 < Yoda> thats really bad
14:41 < beaneater> he was away twic this month
14:42 < beaneater> but I would have liked an ack on my first few emails even if he didn't have time to do it
14:42 < beaneater> anyway, hopefully that will happen and my forms can get sent to the main uni people
14:42 < Yoda> :(
14:42 < beaneater> hopefully I'll get funded too...
14:42 < Yoda> don't worry, you'll get it
14:42 < Yoda> what's your choice of topic?
14:43 < beaneater> the what now?
14:43 < Yoda> are you going to research?
14:43 < beaneater> yeah, I don't know any more
14:43 < Yoda> ?
14:43 < beaneater> I don't actually have a topic as such
14:44 < Yoda> area then?
14:44 < beaneater> we've talked about the areas of reasearch I find interesting, but that's it.
14:44 < beaneater> and that got vaguer and wider in the interview...
14:44 < beaneater> semantics/type theory/blah...
14:44 < Yoda> ah, theory stuff
14:44 < beaneater> yeah
14:44 < beaneater> of course
14:44 < beaneater> it's me
14:44 < Yoda> yeah, totally, i can see it
14:45 < Yoda> you've always been good at that stuff
14:45 < beaneater> the total number of people sitting my first four exams is less than half of the number of people sitting either of my last two exams
14:45 < Yoda> and I've been a bit crap of stuff as usual
14:45 < Yoda> at that kind of stuff
14:45 < Yoda> you really need the brain for it
14:46 < Yoda> anyway, I'm going off to register ...
14:46 < beaneater> enjoy
14:46 < Yoda> so I'll speak to you guys later
14:46 < Yoda> bye now
14:46 < beaneater> let us know the  crack
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18:12 < meng> ping
18:17 < tef> poo
18:17 < meng> none of that crap in here
18:23 < tef> what is your degree in meng?
18:23 < meng> linguistics + ai
18:24 < tef> so you'll be meng ba ?
18:24 < meng> ma
18:24 < tef> aha.
18:24 < tef> do a meng.
18:24 < tef> it'll be betteron business cards
18:24 < meng> you bet
18:24 < tef> comedy genious
18:24 < tef> how many people have said this to you?
18:24 < meng> too many
18:25 < tef> i couldn't resist
18:25 < tef> thing is
18:25 < tef> you can confuse people in to thinking you have a meng.
18:26 < meng> and appear doubly qualified
18:26 < meng> maybe i'll do a msc
18:26 < meng> meng ma msc
18:26 < meng> sounds good
18:35 < beaneater> tef: his name would be B Sc.?
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19:24 < meng> hey k
19:25 < Yoda> yo
19:25 < Yoda> i haven't spoken to you since ... Saturday
19:25 < meng> bet you missed me
19:25 < Yoda> man, that was a long time ago
19:25 < Yoda> oh yeah ..
19:26 < Yoda> so, what's the chat
19:26 < meng> what's the compsoc consensus on:
19:26 < meng> vanilla coke vs. coke
19:26 < Yoda> the colon!
19:26 < meng> bah !
19:26 < Yoda> mmm
19:27 < Yoda> vanilla coke tastes a bit like coffee
19:27 < Yoda> the after taste that is
19:27 < meng> tastes like ice cream to me
19:27 < Yoda> but i prefer traditional coke
19:27 < Yoda> incidentally, i learnt about a rather exciting case of coke vs Pepsi in marketing last year
19:28 < Yoda> but i won't bore you with it
19:29 < meng> ok
19:29 < Yoda> what's the chat then
19:29 < Yoda> apart from the coke thing
19:29 < meng> it was a diversion
19:30 < Yoda> o
19:30 < Yoda> i registered for graduation today
19:30 < meng> really, i'm trying to do stats
19:30 < Yoda> isn't that exciting
19:30 < Yoda> stats?
19:30 < meng> should have started this earlier
19:30 < meng> it's due tomorrow
19:30 < Yoda> oh, clever then
19:30 < meng> mm
19:31 < Yoda> what do you do with your time? if not to do work?
19:31 < Yoda> you seem to start everything last minute?
19:31 < meng> although, i did start this ages ago, but i thought the stats would be trivial
19:31 < Yoda> ok
19:31 < Yoda> fair enough
19:31 < meng> parkinsons law
19:32 < meng> i can justify everything with parkinsons law now
19:32 < Yoda> you are going to quote that so often now
19:32 < meng> bet you regret telling me about that
19:32 < Yoda> damn right
19:32 < Yoda> what about Murphy's law
19:32 < Yoda> bet you'll quote that one too
19:35 < meng> i wonder whether i can get away with dubious stats tests, the scale is discrete, but i could pretend it's not
19:35 < Yoda> whatever you think will get you a good mark
19:35 < Yoda> why the hell not?
19:36 < meng> he's an applied linguist who thinks he's a political scientist
19:36 < meng> what do they know about stats?
19:36 < Yoda> er ... no comment
19:43 < Yoda> still there?
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19:45 < Yoda> Paul?
19:45 < Yoda> Paul?
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20:00 < CLeaner> anyone want to buy a computer?
20:03 < meng> don't all rush at once
20:03 < CLeaner> http://void.printf.net/~cle/tg1.jpg
20:28 < Electron> :)
20:31 < Electron> erm - graduation - deadline for tickets is this thursday?
20:31 < Electron> !
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20:40 < Electron> hey Kate
20:40 < Yoda> Hey Bruce
20:40 < Yoda> hows things?
20:40 < Electron> fed up
20:40 < Electron> :(
20:40 < Yoda> :(
20:41 < Yoda> y?
20:41 < Electron> so it's not too late to register for grad?
20:41 < Yoda> no no no
20:41 < Yoda> just that you can apply for extra tickets
20:41 < Electron> just been in the library all day, just fed up with studying, want to go out pubbing
20:41 < Yoda> i.e. u get 2 for your parents, then you have to apply for more if you want more to come
20:41 < Electron> aha
20:41 < Yoda> and the deadline for it is this thurs
20:42 < Electron> I'll have to see if my sisters want to come along
20:42 < Yoda> i didn't know it was so soon, that's why i thought i should let ppl knpw
20:42 < Electron> how goes it fo ryou?
20:42 < Yoda> er ... busy day
20:43 < Yoda> handed in my MP assignemnt today
20:43 < Yoda> then went to pick up my references and posted 3 application forms off
20:43 < Yoda> then in the lib to do some work
20:43 < Electron> cool, very productive day, then :)
20:43 < Yoda> just back for grub then lib again, but its raining outside
20:43 < Electron> you going to teviot lib?
20:44 < Yoda> think so, cos its open till late
20:44 < Yoda> but ... don't like rain
20:44 < Electron> see you there
20:44 < Yoda> you going all the way up to Teviot?
20:44 < Electron> I'm in AT
20:44 < Electron> been in Teviot all day
20:44 < Electron> it's a brillaitn library, that
20:44 < Yoda> o
20:44 < Yoda> yeah, really quiet
20:45 < Yoda> did you get much done?
20:45 < Electron> no not that, the main library is quiet, but just waaay too quiet
20:45 < Electron> quite a bit - studying with laptop == win!
20:45 < Yoda> lol
20:45 < Electron> since all my notes are on computers, and being in library is much better than being stuck in my flat
20:46 < Yoda> change of scenery is good
20:46 < Yoda> how was the gamesoc LAN?
20:46 < Electron> shite
20:46 < Electron> 4 people, took 2.5 hours to even get a game played
20:47 < Electron> anyone here know Angus' phone numb er? he's after a switch, Communi-8 told me to tell him the price of one of them
20:49 < Yoda> Angus Hardie?
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20:49 < Electron> yeah
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20:55 < Yoda> bloody windows
20:55 < Yoda> can't go 2 hrs without crashing
20:55 < Electron> hehe
20:57 < Electron> hmm, is it windows or jus you rcomputer?
20:58 < Yoda> windows
20:58 < Yoda> i think
20:58 < Electron> *my* Windows doesn't crash :)
20:59 < Electron> well, explorer did crash today after I'd hibernated it a few times
21:00 < Yoda> windows is like a box of chocolate, you never know what you're going to get
21:00  * Yoda slaps meng around a bit with a large trout
21:00 < Yoda> is Michae; still here?
21:03  * Yoda having chocolate ice cream, ... mmmmm
21:05 < Electron> 20:49 < Yoda> Angus Hardie?
21:05 < Electron> 20:49 < Electron> yeah
21:05 < Yoda> i havent seen Angus for months
21:05 < Yoda> get him in here
21:05 < Electron> k
21:06 < Electron> he occasionally joins #compsoc
21:08 < Electron> hrm, laptop was suffocating in my bag here :/
21:08 < Yoda> ?
21:08 < Yoda> suffocating?
21:08 < Electron> yeah, opened bag to find fan running flat-out, boiling hot
21:09 < Electron> so it coulnd't breath b ecause the bag was closed :)
21:09 < Yoda> :(
21:09 < Yoda> did u turn it off before putting it in the bag?
21:10 < Electron> nope - I'm warwalking today
21:10 < meng> i am still here (sort of)
21:10 < Yoda> lol
21:10 < Yoda> warwalking - i wonder why that guy came up with it
21:11  * Yoda means the guy that came up with teh term
21:11 < Yoda> Michael, what the hell are you doing?
21:11 < meng> from wardialling
21:11 < Yoda> still working?
21:11 < meng> surprise! yes!
21:11 < Yoda> wardialling?
21:11 < meng> bruce will explain
21:12 < Electron> ah yes, phreaking
21:12 < Yoda> i need someone to play chess with me
21:12 < Yoda> am bored
21:12 < Electron> come to Teviot!
21:12 < Yoda> part of my "more randomness please" campaign
21:12 < Yoda> think Michael "I have too much work" Eng is STILL doing work
21:12  * Yoda rolls her eyes
21:12 < Electron> meng: it appears I do indeed have access to ForrestHill
21:13 < meng> i'm in FH, if you're still about later, meet for coffee in Favorit ?
21:13 < Yoda> oh, the happening place that is
21:13 < Electron> sure
21:13 < meng> being the only place that is open late
21:14 < Yoda> late night chess
21:14 < Yoda> oh boy
21:14 < Electron> Kate, you cioming to Teviot in a while?
21:14 < Yoda> yeah, actually i will
21:14 < Electron> meng: ok, when?
21:14 < Yoda> i'll bring the chessboard
21:15 < Electron> Yoda: pool, not chess! :)
21:15 < meng> what time you expect to get thrown out of teviot
21:15 < Yoda> so we can go to Favorit afterwards and kick Michael at chess
21:15 < Electron> 12:30
21:15 < meng> or leave of free will ..
21:15 < Electron> heh, more like it
21:15 < meng> ok i'll meet you there at 12:30
21:15 < Yoda> lol
21:15 < meng> at favorit that is
21:15 < Electron> dunno - might manage a couple more hours
21:16 < Electron> actually, i'VE NOT P[LAYED CHESS FOR AGES - COULD BE FUN
21:16 < meng> CAPS LOCK
21:16 < Electron> oops, caps lock OFF 
21:16 < Yoda> REALLY?
21:16 < meng> YES
21:16 < Yoda> HELLO? I'M IN TEVIOT
21:16 < Yoda> YEAH
21:17  * Yoda ANSWERS THE PHONE AGAIN
21:17 < meng> OH HI
21:17 < meng> I'M ON THE TRAIN
21:17 < Yoda> WHERE ARE YOU
21:17 < Yoda> OH
21:17 < Electron> lol
21:17 < Yoda> RIGHT, WELL I'M IN THE NEXT CARRIAGE
21:17 < Yoda> WALK UP
21:17 < meng> OH I'M GOING TO GET CUT OFF
21:17 < meng> THERE'S A TUNNEL COMING UP
21:17 < meng> TUNNEL
21:17 < Yoda> NOT UNTIL I MEET YOU YET
21:17 < meng> NO, TUNNEL
21:18 < Yoda> I CAN SEE YOU
21:18 < meng> WHERE ARE YOU
21:18 < Yoda> DON'T PUT THE PHONE DOWN YET THOUGH
21:18 < Yoda> I DON'T THINK I'VE ANNOYED ENOUGH PPL YET
21:18 < meng> HELLO?
21:18 < Yoda> THERE, CANT YOU SEE ME?
21:18 < Yoda> I'M WAVING
21:18 < meng> ARE YOU BEHIND ME
21:18 < Yoda> HERE, OVER HERE
21:19 < Yoda> NO, IN FRONT OF YOU
21:19 < Yoda> EVERYONE'S LOOKING AT ME
21:19 < meng> I CAN'T SEE YOU
21:19 < Yoda> I'M HERE!
21:19 < meng> CAN YOU SEE ME
21:19 < meng> I'M ON THE 6:15
21:19 < Yoda> ALMOST REACHED YOU
21:19 < Yoda> WHERE?
21:19 < Yoda> I'M ON THE GNER
21:20 < meng> OH
21:20 < meng> WRONG TRAIN
21:20 < Yoda> OH
21:20 < Yoda> DAMN IT
21:20 < Electron> LOOK AT THE REALLY EXPENSIVE PHONE I'VE GOT, THAT IS JUST ASKING TO BE NICKED
21:20 < Yoda> I AM SO EMBARASSED, THAT GUY I THOUGHT WAS YOU, WAS ACTUALLY SOMEONE ELSE
21:21 < meng> I HAVE A DOUBLE YOU KNOW
21:21 < Yoda> YOUR TWIN BROTHER?
21:21 < Yoda> oh, shall i bring cards instead, then we can all play
21:21 < Yoda> someting
21:21 < Yoda> blackjack
21:21 < Yoda> for MONEY!!!
21:22 < Yoda> HAHAHAHAHAH <evil laugh #36>
21:23 < meng> right then, have to work again, see you there at 12:30 (if you get fed up, I'm in the terminal room on B floor)
21:23 < Electron> my brain will probably be too addled by that time to be able to play chess
21:23 < Electron> later
21:23 < Yoda> I shall bring cards
21:23 < Yoda> cya 
21:23 < Yoda> at teviot
21:24 < Electron> ]yeah
21:24 < Electron> library
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22:08 < meng> windows user
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23:34 < pajh> testiiiiing
23:34 < pajh> pajh@penelope:~$ 
23:34 < pajh> woot!
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00:25  * beaneater exam tomorrow
00:29 < tef> good luck.
00:30 < beaneater> cheers
00:30 < tef> hrm
00:30 < beaneater> ?
00:30 < tef> i think i might go to bed soon
00:30 < beaneater> enjoy
00:30 < tef> bliss.
00:31 < beaneater> see you had a decent trip
00:37 < beaneater> oh.
00:46 < tef> yes
00:47 < tef> dissapreared for a bit
00:47 < tef> but gone really.
00:47 < tef> i do that.
00:47 < tef> and i'm off again.
00:47 < tef> enjoy getting pissed after exam.
00:51 < beaneater> hardly.
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03:11 < pajh> Alex says he's coming canal boating, subject to summer internships.
03:12 < pajh> Gary is also up for it, subject to having any money.
03:12 < Yoda> are you definitely sure?
03:12 < pajh> And given that he must owe me a grand by now, this is unlikely.
03:12 < Yoda> alright, after being slagged off by a certain Mr Eng, I will posted final dates and costings on this
03:13 < pajh> howso slaged off?
03:13 < pajh> s/g/gg/
03:13 < Yoda> so is Alex likely to come?
03:13 < Yoda> or not?
03:13 < Yoda> not asking in a nasty way
03:13 < Yoda> just put a percentage on it
03:13 < pajh> Summer internships won't start until after the projected period of cana-boating, surely?
03:13 < Yoda> yeah, because we go in week 10
03:13 < pajh> So, probably.
03:14 < Yoda> cool
03:14 < pajh> How many does that give us now?
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03:14 < Leynos> Hi
03:15 < Yoda> me, you, Michael, Bruce, Alex .... 5
03:15 < Yoda> i wonder if Nick is coming
03:15 < pajh> I'm talking about canal boating and compsoc things in here...
03:15 < Electron> lo
03:15 < Yoda> back home already? quick walker
03:15 < Electron> yep
03:16 < Yoda> so, if Nick comes, that's 6
03:16 < Yoda> who else can come?
03:16 < Leynos> Just wanting to check.  I'm about to send out an email with the details, but would there be any conflicts if Scottie holds the post-exam film night on 29th April?
03:17 < Yoda> no
03:17 < pajh> Not to my knowledge
03:17 < Yoda> i would be very hungover, but no
03:17 < Electron> yes
03:17 < Electron> 4th years going out drinking
03:17 < pajh> As you know, I only know my schedule a maximum of a week in advance
03:17 < Leynos> Would a better choice be the 30th?
03:17 < Electron> yeah
03:18 < Electron> Leynos: did you get my text?
03:18 < Leynos> oh
03:18 < Leynos> hold on
03:18 < Electron> that'll be a negative, then :)
03:19 < Leynos> I did now
03:19 < Yoda> there are schedules for 4th years to go out drinking?
03:19 < Leynos> I was asleep 5pm - 10pm
03:19 < Electron> Yoda: gamesoc peeps
03:19 < Yoda> how did your exam go?
03:20 < pajh> so, Yoda: what's this about my testosterone?
03:20 < Yoda> Electron: that's Gamesoc 4th year, not 4th year in general?
03:20 < Electron> Yoda: gamesoc 4th year + general 4th year people
03:20 < Yoda> Paul, can we finish with the boat thing first, then we'll talk about you
03:20 < pajh> fine.
03:20 < Yoda> Electron: where are they going?
03:21 < Yoda> who else is coming?
03:21 < Electron> Yoda: pub crawl probably
03:21 < pajh> but I did bring up the testosterone thing /before/ the boat thing.
03:21 < Yoda> ok, we'll talk about that next
03:21 < Yoda> but boat first
03:21 < Electron> just a whole load of people going out to celerebrate end of exams, and general celebrations
03:21 < pajh> single-tasker.,
03:21 < Yoda> sorry ...
03:21 < pajh> :p
03:22  * Yoda slaps pajh around a bit with a large trout
03:22 < Yoda> that's getting old now isn't it?
03:22 < Yoda> anyway
03:22 < Electron> indeed
03:22 < Yoda> who else is coming?
03:22  * pajh slaps Yoda around with a kilometre-long rod of superdense material
03:22 < Yoda> ouch, that hurt
03:23 < pajh> DON'T make an arse in me in front of hot geek chix0r. I may be forced to kill you.
03:23 < Yoda> she's not around
03:23 < Yoda> is she?
03:23 < pajh> Allow my testosterone to speak for itself.
03:23 < Yoda> is it megan?
03:23  * pajh waits for the penny to drop
03:23 < pajh> *THUNK*
03:23 < pajh> there it goes
03:24 < Yoda> it is, isn't it?
03:24 < pajh> Youuuuuuu twit.
03:24 < Yoda> she doesn't see that geeky to me
03:24 < pajh> It took you this long?
03:24 < Yoda> sorry, am quite slow on this kind of thing
03:24 < pajh> <slef-satisfied>She's different with me.</self-satisfied>
03:25  * Yoda giggles
03:25 < Yoda> oh yeah, she mentioned she was from Liverpool
03:25 < pajh> www.megans-harddrive.fsnet.co.uk/hmm2.jpg
03:25 < Electron> who?
03:25 < pajh> So behave yourself.
03:25 < Yoda> ok
03:25 < Electron> not CS megan?
03:26 < Yoda> i promise
03:26 < pajh> Electron: kate has managed to meet hot geek chix0r and almost entirely ruin my chances, with a few simple phrases.
03:26 < pajh> not CS megan.
03:26 < Electron> hehe
03:26 < pajh> She's not really called megan. She's called Sarah.
03:27 < pajh> And she has a /voice/.
03:27 < Electron> 'cause I know a *really* geeky girl in CS2
03:27 < Yoda> then why megan ...?
03:28 < pajh> I haven't asked.
03:28 < pajh> But I know why `of Wutai'.
03:28 < Yoda> ask, ask, ask
03:28 < Yoda> i'm confused
03:28 < Yoda> ask her
03:28 < pajh> Electron: is she hot?
03:29 < Yoda> pleasseeee, you have no chance
03:30 < Yoda> Paul, not a good move
03:30 < Yoda> talking about other girls that you think about when you talk to her does not please the ladies
03:30 < pajh> ?
03:31 < pajh> I'm a) being honest and b) we're talking about her ACCENT.
03:31 < Yoda> still not cool
03:31 < Yoda> chicks don't like boys talking about what other chick she reminds him of
03:32 < pajh> Okay, another thing. Don't deconstruct every single FUCKING thing I say to her.
03:32 < Electron> pajh: not really
03:32 < pajh> okay, /that/ was a bad move.
03:32 < Yoda> i don't
03:32 < Yoda> not on there anyway
03:32 < pajh> <megan_of_wutai> shit on you mr hamilton...
03:32 < pajh> ...bad move.
03:32 < Yoda> that wasn't me
03:33 < Yoda> i hadn't spoke for ages
03:33 < Yoda> is she calling you?
03:34 < pajh> This was a while ago. It was pub night, remember? Afterwards I spoke to her, after having accidentally given her the number for Central Taxis first.
03:34 -!- Yoda changed the topic of #compsoc to: Who else wants to join in "Compsoc goes Boating"
03:34 < Yoda> i mean just now ...]
03:35 < Yoda>  <megan_of_wutai> I'll let you know what I sound like... 
03:35 < Leynos> Remember, if you think Paul's bad, he ain't got nothing on this guy:  http://www.b2g3.com/boards/board.cgi?action=read&id=1050448029&user=ukresistance
03:35 < pajh> I'm thinking about calling /her/
03:36 < Yoda> at 3am?
03:36 < Yoda> Electron, still there?
03:36 < Electron> Yoda, yeah
03:36 < Yoda> so, about this RFC bot
03:36 < Yoda> what's your thoughts
03:37 < Electron> nothing atm, I'll talk about it after exams on Wednesday
03:37 < Leynos> ?
03:37 < Yoda> we're going to have a RFC system in Compsoc
03:37  * Electron -> bed
03:38 -!- Electron is now known as Electron|zzz
03:38 < Yoda> for each stupid idea we have
03:38 < Leynos> clever
03:38 < Yoda> do you honestly think its cool, cos Michael thinks its a crap idea
03:38  * Yoda wonders if Michael is online
03:39 < Yoda> or if he'll read this tomorrow morning
03:40 < Leynos> Michael, since you're reading this tomorrow, and I will be out of the country, I rigged a piano to fall on your head as you close your front door
03:40 < Yoda> lol
03:40 < Yoda> class
03:40 < Yoda> rofl
03:40 < Yoda> Dave, you rock!
03:41 < Leynos> RFC thing is a way of grouping discussions together?  Or is it just going to be a list of documents?
03:41 < Yoda>  grouping discussions together
03:41 < Leynos> could be useful then
03:41 < Yoda> like RFC x.0 would be an original idea
03:41 < Yoda> then x.1 or .2 or .3 would be ideas related to that idea
03:42 < Leynos> How does it know what falls under the discussion?  Or do you just have to tell it to start and stop logging ideas?
03:42 < Yoda> well, i'm not good at that kind of stuff
03:42 < Yoda> what do you think?
03:42 < Yoda> originally, i thought we can just do it in documentation style
03:43 < Yoda> as a bunch of txt files
03:43 < Yoda> but it's cool
03:43 < Leynos> I thought you meant it was an IRC bot?
03:43 < Yoda> yeah
03:43 < Yoda> i did
03:43 < Yoda> but ...
03:43 < Yoda> no one can be bothered setting one up until after the exams
03:44 < Yoda> or until June
03:44 < Leynos> yeah.  I still need to learn TCL ^^;
03:44 < Yoda> for?
03:44 < Yoda> HCI?
03:44 < Leynos> programming an IRC bot
03:44 < Yoda> cant you do that kind of thing in perl
03:44 < Yoda> maybe I'm mistaken
03:44 < Leynos> The bot I run for #edge uses TCL as its scripting language
03:45 < Yoda> cool
03:45 < Leynos> Yeah, you could write one from scratch in Perl.  There's probably an IRC module out there
03:45 < Yoda> but i think we should start off with a few RFCs first
03:45 < Yoda> as txt files
03:45 < Leynos> yeah
03:45 < Yoda> and install the bot later
03:45 < Yoda> how's that?
03:46 < Leynos> I need to go
03:46 < Yoda> no you don't
03:46 < Yoda> do you?
03:46 < Yoda> i need someone to talk to
03:46 < Yoda> can't sleep
03:47 < Leynos> I need sleep.  I only got 2 hours last night, and I'm still knackered
03:47 < Yoda> ok
03:47 < Yoda> fair enough
03:47 < Leynos> Later
03:47 < Yoda> i'm off to set something u[
03:47 < Yoda> for this RFC
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03:56 < Yoda> Paul?
04:06 < pajh> yes?
04:07 < Yoda> the Mark thing
04:07 < Yoda> are you asking or am i?
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04:08 -!- Yoda changed the topic of #compsoc to: Updated: http://canalboater.blogspot.com <--- read and let me know ASAP, its going to be so much fun!
04:09 < pajh> "get a room"?
04:09 < Yoda> she swallows?
04:10 < Yoda> and you're spent
04:10 < Yoda> come on, get a room
04:10 < pajh> she blushes very easily, so I'm told. Don't read too much into it.
04:10 < Yoda> ...
04:10 < Yoda> no comment dude
04:12 < pajh> Is it totally beyond your comprehension that the whole thing was staged for your benefit?
04:12 < Yoda> no
04:12 < Yoda> i'm dense
04:14 < pajh> no, it's not totally beyond your comperhension?
04:15 < Yoda> no its not ..
04:15 < pajh> well then.
04:15 < Yoda> ...
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05:07 < pajh> ack.
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11:49 < Electron> morning (just)
11:57 < beaneater> 'ning
12:04  * beaneater reads scrollback
12:04 < beaneater> canalboats
12:04 < beaneater> hmm
12:04 < beaneater> does anybody know the crack with project presentations?
12:05 < beaneater> I have a million and one things that want to happen near the end of term
12:09 < Electron> ususal CS deal I guess - they'll tell us when they're ready
12:14 < beaneater> yeah
12:14 < beaneater> it sucks
12:15 < beaneater> my dates are as rough as "sometime between submission and the end of term"
12:15 < beaneater> is it W8/W9?
12:16 < Electron> think so
12:16 < beaneater> have we just assumed that though?
12:17 < Electron> yeah
12:17 < beaneater> oh, "sually during the eighth week of the third term"
12:17 < Electron> I thought I heard something about presentations being on the 28th May
12:17 < beaneater> nah
12:17 < Electron> nah
12:17 < beaneater> that's the submission date
12:17 < Electron> yep
12:17 < beaneater> 28th May is handin date, 12 noon
12:17 < beaneater> so no presentations then
12:18 < Electron> two weeks to prepare for them, then
12:18 < beaneater> how so?
12:18 < Electron> 6th week -> 8th week
12:18 < beaneater> submission is in W7
12:18 < Electron> cool
12:18 < Electron> didn't realise
12:19 < Electron> thought it was end of week 6
12:19 < beaneater> nah, it's th Wednesday of week 7
12:19 < beaneater> week 7 starts on the 26th
12:19 < beaneater> I have it on my wall :)
12:19 < beaneater> I also have an exam today
12:19 < Electron> good luck
12:19 < Electron> I've got 2 tomorrow :/
12:20 < beaneater> fucker
12:20 < beaneater> that's not good
12:20 < beaneater> which?
12:20 < beaneater> I have CA tomorrow
12:20 < Electron> ES and DS
12:20 < Electron> just want them out the way now
12:21 < Electron> got to head back to Teviot library to finish preperations
12:21 < beaneater> yeah I just want it to be over
12:21 < beaneater> starting to stop caring
12:23  * Electron -> library
12:24 < beaneater> see ya
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13:40 < Yoda|Library> yo! everyone
13:41  * Yoda|Library looks around
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15:44 < tef> boating?
15:45 < Electron> on a canal
15:47 < tef> which one?
15:47 < Electron> somewhere around Manchester, apparently
15:48 < tef> joy
15:49 < beaneater> crapcrapcrap
15:49 < beaneater> I'm ill
15:50 < Electron> hrm, such exceptionally bad timing
15:50 < beaneater> yeah
15:50 < beaneater> I wasn't so sure last night
15:50 < beaneater> I became sure in the exam I've just come out of
15:52  * beaneater wonders what to do
16:07 < meng> maybe you should phone your dos
16:08 < beaneater> yeah
16:08 < beaneater> probably sod all can be done
16:08 < beaneater> I mean there are no alternative exam arrangements
16:09 < meng> but it's more for the record
16:09 < beaneater> yeah
16:10 < beaneater> the exam today I fucked up a little, but there were loads of marks for stuff I didn't need to think for
16:10 < beaneater> so I probably did quite well actually.
16:11 < meng>  http://canalboater.blogspot.com                                    
16:11 < meng> 12:21 < beaneater> starting to stop caring
16:11 < meng> 12:23  * Electron -> library
16:11 < meng> 12:24 < beaneater> see ya
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16:11 < meng> 13:40 < Yoda|Library> yo! everyone
16:11 < meng> 13:41  * Yoda|Library looks around
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16:11 < meng>           http://canalboater.blogspot.com
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16:11 < meng> 15:44 < tef> boating?
16:11 < meng> 15:45 < Electron> on a canal
16:11 < meng> 15:47 < tef> which one?
16:11 < meng> 15:47 < Electron> somewhere around Mancheste http://canalboater.blogspot.com                                    
16:11 < meng> 12:21 < beaneater> starting to stop caring
16:11 < meng> 12:23  * Electron -> library
16:11 < meng> 12:24 < beaneater> see ya
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16:11 < meng> 13:40 < Yoda|Library> yo! everyone
16:11 < meng> 13:41  * Yoda|Library looks around
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16:11 < meng> 15:44 < tef> boating?
16:11 < meng> 15:45 < Electron> on a canal
16:11 < meng> 15:47 < tef> which one?
16:11 < meng> oops
16:11 < meng> dropped a book on the mouse
16:12 < meng> still, it can't hurt to say that you were ill, even if you thought it makes no difference
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16:51 [ beaneater] [ meng] [ tef    ] [ Yoda] 
16:51 [ Electron ] [ pajh] [ uberjoe] 
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16:51 < meng> oops
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17:27 < beaneater> meng: well
17:28 < beaneater> in the end, c'est le vie
17:28 < beaneater> la
17:28 < beaneater> I'm not doing anything about it, I had enough hassle contacting my DoS last time
17:28 < meng> who's your dos
17:28 < beaneater> Alan Smaill
17:30 < Electron> it's probably stress-related - I used to be ill all the time until 3rd year
17:30 < Electron> when I actually started more enjoying uni and stuff
17:30 < beaneater> possibly
17:31 < Electron> or at least a depressed immune system
17:31 < beaneater> yeah
17:31 < beaneater> whether it's feverishness brought on by stress or somthing else is irrelevant tbh
17:31 < Electron> true
17:32 < Electron> except, if you stop thinking about being ill and go do something else, you might stop being ill :)
17:32 < meng> what, mind over matter and all that
17:32 < Electron> yeah
17:33 < Electron> phychosematic
17:33 < beaneater> hehe
17:34 < beaneater> anyway I think I'll be okay. some chicken soup for lunch tommorrow and then my problems will mainly be the fact that it's CA ;)
17:34 < beaneater> how is everybody else?
17:35 < beaneater> Electron: 2 exams tomorrow?
17:35 < beaneater> ugh
17:35 < Electron> yeah, gonna be awful
17:38 < beaneater> how many have you done?
17:38 < Electron> 1
17:38 < Electron> 4 left
17:39 < beaneater> you only have 5?
17:39 < beaneater> how does that work?
17:39 < Electron> I did SLIP
17:39 < beaneater> ah
17:40 < beaneater> maybe I should have done QSX instead of CA
17:41 < Electron> QSX?
17:41 < Electron> too many acronyms
17:41 < beaneater> Module:   Querying and Storing XML
17:42 < Electron> *sounds* like a BS module, but I'm sure it's not
17:42 < beaneater> nah
17:42 < beaneater> it's an essay course
17:42 < beaneater> be silly if I ended up doing a CS3 module next year.
17:42 < beaneater> read three papers a week
17:43 < Electron> nice
17:43 < beaneater> and summarise them all
17:43 < beaneater> well 3-4 papers
17:43 < Electron> hrm, that's what I kind of missed in CS - too much programming, not enough essays/reading
17:43 < beaneater> and you present papers, and do an individual project
17:45 < beaneater> I almost switched to it
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18:19 < meng> ey up
18:20 < Yoda|Library> alrighty
18:20 < Yoda|Library> what u upto?
18:20 < meng> back in f
18:20 < meng> fh
18:20 < Yoda|Library> again, do you have a camp there or something
18:20 < Yoda|Library> like a second him
18:21 < Yoda|Library> like a second home
18:21 < meng> well, we have a water cooler here, you know
18:21 < Yoda|Library> wow!
18:21 < meng> plus a whole kitchen
18:21 < Yoda|Library> cool!
18:21 < meng> what more do you need ?
18:21 < Yoda|Library> what about beds? or do you provide your own sleeping bags?
18:22 < meng> well, there are university-style `sofa'
18:22 < meng> s in the common room
18:22 < Yoda|Library> cool, we can have a sleepover!
18:22 < Electron> sounds nice
18:22 < Yoda|Library> RFC 6.0 : Compsoc Goes to FH
18:22 < Electron> much better than jcmb
18:23 < meng> there are random ANC people wandering about all night though
18:23 < Yoda|Library> i actually spent about half an hour today drawing out the hierarchy for this RFC thing
18:23 < Yoda|Library> it was either that or HCI
18:23 < meng> tough call
18:23 < Yoda|Library> ANC?
18:23 < meng> Institute for Adaptive and Neural Computation
18:24 < meng> or somet like that
18:24 < Yoda|Library> Neural Computation? is that named after something out of Star Trek?
18:24 < meng> no man, they named the stuff in star trek out of ANC reports
18:24 < Yoda|Library> are you sure?
18:24 < Yoda|Library> you're not lying to me now, are you?
18:24 < meng> that last bit might not be true
18:25 < Yoda|Library> i guessed as much
18:26 < meng> but i'm sure star trek didn't invent it
18:26 < meng> so there
18:26 < Yoda|Library> blah, i just got half my answers wrong from last year's HCI paper
18:26 < Yoda|Library> damn answers
18:27 < meng> do they give you sample answers too
18:27 < Yoda|Library> only if you "hack" the url
18:27 < meng> ooh, hacking
18:27 < Yoda|Library> which reminds me
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18:28 < meng> right
18:28 < _NeoCool_> yeah dude
18:28 < _NeoCool_> isn't this cool
18:28 < meng> oh about boat, i bumped into iain today, tried to talk him into it, but he wasn't having any
18:28 < _NeoCool_> no, i talked to him about it too
18:28 < _NeoCool_> i think i've scared him off after mentioning the monopoly crawl
18:29 < Electron> who *is* Ian? I kind of remember him, was he in CompSoc?
18:29 < meng> on the periphery
18:29 < meng> he's pals with Angus
18:29 < _NeoCool_> i would hardly call them that
18:29 < _NeoCool_> i think they haven't seen each other for ages
18:29 < Electron> ah, ok
18:29 < _NeoCool_> well, i think they are pals
18:30 < _NeoCool_> but just like see each other every week type pals
18:30 < _NeoCool_> dude, this is so depressing
18:30 < meng> what about angus
18:31 < _NeoCool_> what about him?
18:31 < meng> for boat
18:31 -!- _NeoCool_ is now known as Pronto
18:31 < Pronto> er ...
18:31 < Pronto> i'm glad I'm in the library
18:31 < Pronto> and not at FH
18:32 < meng> no need for that kind of chat
18:32 < meng> anyway
18:32 < Pronto> I'm not
18:32 < meng> i got the job, starts on the 30th, so dates are good
18:32 < Pronto> look I've just spent the whole day doing 3 HCI papers, so what kind of a mood do you expect me to be in?
18:33 < Pronto> what job>?
18:33 < Pronto> you have 10 on the go
18:33 < meng> the royal bank one in london
18:34 < Pronto> right then (tm)
18:34 < beaneater> someone say boat
18:34 < meng> boat
18:35 < beaneater> you know you are required to be around in week 10 
18:35 < Pronto> i know ...
18:35 < Pronto> just in case we have to do another presentation
18:35 < Pronto> right?
18:35 < beaneater> because the external examiner picks projects to be presented at short notice
18:35 < beaneater> yup
18:35 < beaneater> so how come you plan to do that in W10?
18:36 < Pronto> well, i just don't think he'll pick mine
18:36 < meng> how can you be so sure
18:36 < beaneater> why not?
18:36 < Pronto> i can't
18:36 < Pronto> i don't
18:36 < Pronto> it seems like its that week or nothing else
18:37 < Pronto> no one else seems to be able to do the week after ...?
18:37 < Electron> anyway, who's going to want to go on holiday at the end of term
18:37 < Pronto> everyone?
18:37 < meng> me
18:37 < Electron> surely the week after would be better>
18:37  * Pronto notices the silence
18:38 < Pronto> shall we move it back one week then?
18:38 < meng> fine for me
18:38 < beaneater> Reminds me, I should talk to dts about my job
18:38 < Pronto> Bruce, Nick?
18:38 < Pronto> what about you guys?
18:39  * Pronto notices the silence - AGAIN
18:39 < Pronto> that's a no then
18:39 < beaneater> I'm sorry, I can't commit to that
18:40 < Pronto> because you can't or won't ;)
18:40 < Pronto> ?
18:40 < beaneater> I can't and won't
18:40 < Pronto> ouch
18:40 < Electron> Pronto: yeah, week 11 would be goodf
18:40 < Pronto> cool, Paul should be ok with it
18:40 < Pronto> just need to get Alex now
18:41 < Pronto> and talk to Mark as well
18:42 < beaneater> I need to (1) assess my finances, and (2) find out when I will be starting my summer job. I have lots of things going off after term. But I'm not going to have any idea this week.
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18:43 < Pronto> fair enough
18:44 < Pronto> Michael, what's the difference between semantics and syntax?
18:44 < meng> syntax specifies the structure
18:44 < meng> semantics is the meaning
18:44 < beaneater> "You're just arguing syntax!"
18:45 < Pronto> what about Lexical structure?
18:45 < Pronto> is that the same thing as syntax?
18:45 < meng> in what context
18:45 < beaneater> have you never done CS2?
18:45 < Pronto> er ... hold on
18:46 < beaneater> lexing, parsing, context free grammars, all related
18:47 < Pronto> "Taxonomies sugest semantic relationships" <-- wtf?
18:47 < Pronto> i have an exam on this in 2 days ...
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18:47 < meng> a taxonomy is usually a bunch of adjectives
18:48 < meng> so a taxonomy of personality could be something like: extrovert, gregarious, happy, etc
18:48 < beaneater> can I not be included ;)
18:48 < meng> if you are gregarious, you are likely to be extrovert
18:48 < meng> they are related terms, hence semantic relationships
18:49 < Pronto> brain hurts ...
18:50  * beaneater reduces Pronto with respect to a set of polynomials
18:50 < Pronto> maybe I could do that cheating thing out of Millionaire
18:50 < meng> basically, it's a bunch of words that mean similar things
18:50 < Pronto> I got that far ...
18:50 < beaneater> I thought a taxonomy for somthing covered the entire range?
18:50 < beaneater> what's that?
18:51 < meng> you need someone to know the answer to know when to cough though
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18:51 < beaneater> there's many more bits of information needed too
18:51 < beaneater> unless you have a multiple guess exam?
18:51 < Pronto> too late to learn morse code then
18:52 < meng> isn't that what they usually are nick
18:52 < Pronto> or huffman coding with that
18:52 < beaneater> meng: what?
18:52 < beaneater> oh the exam
18:52 < beaneater> no, I have not had multiple choice on any of my finals.
18:52 < beaneater> or any uni exams in fact
18:53 < Pronto> i think you've missed the point 
18:53 < meng> but multiple guess doesn't imply multiple choice
18:53 < beaneater> it's synonymous
18:53 < beaneater> and the search space is *huuge* for normal exam questions
18:55 < Pronto> alright, i get the point
18:55  * beaneater sharpens the point off
18:55 < Pronto> just trying to cheer myself up, that's all
18:55  * Pronto gets the point and stabs the table with it
18:55 < beaneater> Pronto: what exams you got this week?
18:55 < Pronto> HCI and CN on thursday
18:56 < Pronto> then CS on Monday
18:56 < beaneater> CS your last?
18:56 < Pronto> Networking, there's another one
18:56 < Pronto> yes
18:56 < Pronto> hence the crawl on monday afternoon
18:56 < beaneater> oh
18:56 < Pronto> well, that's a lie, because i have 2 more finals in June
18:56 < Pronto> for Business Studies
18:57 -!- CLeaner1 [~adambrace@camonet.force9.co.uk] has joined #compsoc
18:57 < CLeaner1> hihi
18:57 < CLeaner1> j0|)4
18:57 < Pronto> Welcome to the exam chat and depression channel
18:57 < CLeaner1> Yoda!!!!
18:57 < CLeaner1> Cheers pronto
18:57 < Pronto> leave your optimtism at the door
18:57 < beaneater> j0 j0, j0 j0, Yoda...
18:58 < Pronto> it's me!
18:58 < Pronto> Yoda!
18:58 < CLeaner1> weird all, right?
18:58 < Pronto> but in the library
18:58 < CLeaner1> OK
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18:58 < Pronto> hence the changed nick
18:58 < Pronto> i am depressed, you may talk anything to me
18:58 < CLeaner1> So, yeah, erm, beer and skittles, you know there are physical skittles involved?
18:59 < CLeaner1> I now have tickets
18:59 < beaneater> I like to think of it as the sweets
18:59 < beaneater> beer and skittles
18:59 < beaneater> springtime
18:59 < Pronto> mmm....sweets ....
18:59 < CLeaner1> for hitler?
18:59 < beaneater> no
18:59  * CLeaner1 listens to I Monster- Daydream in blue, wheeeee
18:59 < Pronto> when is this skittles thing?
19:00 < beaneater> Spring is here / spring is here / life is skittles / and life is beer
19:00 < CLeaner1> 9th
19:00 < Pronto> of course RFC 3.0: CompSoc Goes Fishing
19:00 < Pronto> 9th May ? mmm
19:00 < Pronto> what day is that?
19:00 < CLeaner1> Fritag
19:00 < Pronto> is anyone else from compsoc going? guys?
19:00 < beaneater> I think the loveliest time of the year is the spring. Don't you? Course you do.
19:00 < CLeaner1> Electron?
19:00 < Pronto> Nick, have you lost it?
19:01 < beaneater> All the world seems in tune on a spring afternoon when we're poisioning pigeons in the park
19:01 < Pronto> it's CS4, it makes you crazy
19:01 < CLeaner1> Well, the best time of year is when it doesn't rain
19:01 < meng> that would be yes
19:01 < CLeaner1> beaneater, Electron, meng, pajh, Pronto, tef. !
19:01 < Pronto> ?
19:01 < Pronto> going to beers and skittles?
19:01 < CLeaner1> who's comin?
19:02 < CLeaner1> yeah
19:02 < Pronto> I can come, but only if the others come with me
19:02 < beaneater> what when why? probably not
19:02 < CLeaner1> Or are you backing out?? Eh? eh?
19:02 < CLeaner1> :)
19:02 < Pronto> otherwise I feel stupid - well, stupier than before
19:02 < meng> 9th not good for me
19:02 < Pronto> mate, I'm DEPRESSED
19:02 < CLeaner1> Electron, you are in both gamesoc and compsoc, you shoudl come at least
19:03 < Pronto> I'd back out of anything
19:03 < beaneater> bugger it, I'm not doing much till may's out
19:03 < CLeaner1> Hehe, no worries, deary, exams will be over by then.
19:03 < Electron> CLeaner1: what?
19:03  * CLeaner1 smacks self for unintentional patronising tone
19:03 < Electron> oh yeah, I'm coming to skittles
19:04 < CLeaner1> And so....
19:04 < beaneater> bean listening to the AI person?
19:04 < beaneater> Was it Jean Bunton?
19:04 < Pronto> kill me now! just kill me now! its more humane this way
19:05 < Electron> CLeaner1: yes, I'm definitely coming, reserve me a ticket 
19:06 < Pronto> I don't know whether to come because I don't know whether any of the other compsoc kids is going
19:06 < CLeaner1> OK, I should be at the pub the next couple of weeks.
19:06 < meng> there's our double agent bruce
19:06  * Pronto slaps meng around a bit with a large trout
19:06 < CLeaner1> meng, you like bowling don't you?
19:06 < Pronto> lol
19:06 < Pronto> LOL
19:06 < CLeaner1> I'm sure I can get martin
19:06 < Pronto> rofl
19:06 < meng> oi
19:06 < CLeaner1> what?
19:07 < meng> whatever gave you that idea
19:07 < meng> eh
19:07 < Electron> CLeaner1: were you at the massive gamesoc 'birthday' event last year?
19:07 < Pronto> oh boy, that cheered me up - a bit
19:07 < CLeaner1> OK, so, I don't know why what I said was amusing, so I will continue regardless, YAY for me.
19:07 < Electron> Pronto: if it's anything like last year it'll be a whole load of random CS4 people
19:08 < CLeaner1> Electron, no, when was that?
19:08 < Pronto> but i hardly know any random CS4 ppl tho
19:08 < CLeaner1> who;s bd?
19:08 < Electron> it was in Teviot, Sandy/me/other people before exams
19:08 < CLeaner1> It's your chance to socialise with the CR3W
19:08 < meng> lol
19:08 < CLeaner1> OK, date?
19:09 < Pronto> ?
19:09 < Pronto> 9th May?
19:09 < Pronto>  CR3W? who's that?
19:09 < Electron> CLeaner1: it was very odd, both Claire's turned up, my flatmate went along because one of the Claire's invited him, the whole of gamesoc went etc
19:09 < Pronto> shit! its 10past 7
19:09 < CLeaner1> .
19:09 < Pronto> i'm supposed to be going to pick someone up right now
19:09 < Pronto> damn it
19:09 < Electron> gogogo!
19:10 < CLeaner1> When is your birthday Electron,
19:10 < CLeaner1> DD MM YYYY
19:10 < Electron> 14th May, had exams right around it for the past 8 years, but not this year! \o/
19:10 < CLeaner1> . .. . .. . .. . .. . .. . .. . .. 
19:10 < CLeaner1> Great!
19:11  * beaneater has his 21st on 23rd May
19:11 < Electron> 1981 :)
19:11 < CLeaner1> wednesday.
19:12 < CLeaner1> you are so young
19:12 < Pronto> i'm off
19:12 < Pronto> bye guys
19:12 < Electron> laters
19:12 < meng> bye
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19:12 < CLeaner1> OK, I'll keep a ticket for you
19:12 < Pronto> unless anyone else wants to come to Murrayfield
19:12 < CLeaner1> What is happening there?
19:12 < Pronto> that's a no then ...
19:12 < Pronto> nm
19:12 < Pronto> bye now
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19:13 < CLeaner1> bye
19:13 < Electron|zzz> ta
19:17 < beaneater> 2...4...6...8... time to transubstantiate
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20:09 < CLeaner> .
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21:42 < meng> į
21:43 < meng> 3
23:31 < pajh> bow your head with great respect
23:31 < pajh> and genuflect, genuflect, genuflect
23:34 < pajh> Ave Maria, gee it's good to see ya
23:43 -!- uberjoe changed the topic of #compsoc to: Meet tomorrow, Peartree, usual time | http://canalboater.blogspot.com | tef has a beard
23:44 < pajh> tef? beard?
23:45 < pajh> goatee, Ahab, or full set?
23:46 < uberjoe> hmm, sidies and chin fluff
23:46 < uberjoe> no porno-tache unfortunately
23:46 < uberjoe> aparetly he forgot to take a razor to Amsterdam
23:47 < uberjoe> and you know, what with the razor embargo going on...
23:48 < pajh> And I suppose that buying a razor there would be out of the question
23:48 < pajh> It being money that could better be spent on weed.
23:55 < uberjoe> hmm, thats probably a much more rational explanation
--- Day changed Wed Apr 23 2003
00:06 < pajh> Will be at the Peartree at the back of four tomorrow.
00:08 < uberjoe> lets hope this weather keeps up and we don't get stuck outside in the sun again
01:04  * uberjoe disappears in the bedward direction
01:22 < meng> beaneater: maybe the reason you can't get hold of your dos is because he's nocturnal ... since he was here in FH terminal room just now
01:43 < Yoda> hey everyone
01:43  * Yoda looks around
01:43 < Yoda> no one here?
01:43 < Yoda> HELELLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
01:43 < meng> me 
01:43 < meng> me
01:44 < Yoda> oh
01:44 < Yoda> only you? ;)
01:44 < Yoda> still in FH?
01:44 < meng> course
01:45 < Yoda> what you doing there?
01:45 < meng> workin
01:46 < Yoda> workin on?
01:46 < meng> essay
01:46 < Yoda> want some fries from Mickey Ds?
01:46 < Yoda> essay?
01:46 < Yoda> Parkinson's Law - again?
01:46 < pajh> Kate, are you drunk?
01:46 < meng> parkinsons law it is
01:46 < Yoda> no, i'm not
01:47 < Yoda> but i have spent the last 4 hrs talking rugby chat
01:47 < Yoda> and about life in general
01:47 < meng> what time does the pizza place on george 4 close
01:47 < Yoda> ... don't know, why?
01:47 < Yoda> wanna go?
01:47 < meng> getting hungry
01:48 < Yoda> i have fries
01:48 < Yoda> www.spammimic.com
01:49 < Yoda> that's a no to the fries then
01:49 < Yoda> but pizza paradise is open till late
01:51 < Yoda> Paul, what's the name of the channel for e2?
01:54 < pajh> #everything
02:01 < Yoda> All by myself ... don't wanna be, All by myself, anymore  ...
02:05 < Yoda> Michael, are you teaching these calsses ... http://www.ucs.ed.ac.uk/usd/ungrad 
02:05 < meng> not all of them
02:05 < meng> just graphics, dtp, and scanning
02:06 < Yoda> mwhahaha <evil laugh #32>
02:06 < meng> each one is a barrel of laughs
02:07 < Yoda> mwhaheewwahahahahahaha <evil laugh #32>
02:07 < Yoda> mwhaheewwahahahahahaha <evil laugh #12>
02:07 < meng> planning to book yourself on are you
02:08 < Yoda> mmmmwwwmemhhahahwhahwwahahaha <evil laugh #25>
02:08 < meng> yeah yeah
02:09 < Yoda> scared yet?
02:09 < meng> well, after finding a piano suspended over my front door, no
02:10 < Yoda> lol, that was genuius
02:10  * Yoda looovvveesssss American sitcoms
02:11 < pajh> What number is this one? www.ed.ac.uk/~compsoc/spaced.mp3
02:11 < Yoda> ?
02:12 < pajh> one of my favourites.
02:16 < Yoda> your damn mp3 won't stop playing!!!!
02:16 < pajh> running Netscape, Kate?
02:17 < Yoda> no IE
02:17 < pajh> Invasion of the maniacal laughs.
02:17 < pajh> And they absolutely will! not! stop!
02:17 < pajh> EVER!
02:17 < Yoda> I've had to stop watching my sitcom, thanks every much
02:18 < beaneater> meng: heh
02:18 < beaneater> re: dos
02:18 < tef> tef = beard
02:18  * beaneater goes to bed
02:18 < beaneater> exam tomorrow
02:18 < tef> from earlier quote by pajh
02:18 < beaneater> shouldn't have been watching movies
02:18 < tef> good luck again.
02:18 < beaneater> cheers
02:18 < Yoda> good luck mate
02:18 < meng> good luck nick
02:19 < beaneater> night folks.
02:19 < pajh> have fun.
02:19 < beaneater> indubitably
02:19 < pajh> If in doubt, try and fit the word `monkey'  into your script
02:19 < pajh> Examiners love monkeys
02:19 < beaneater> I am a fish.
02:19 < beaneater> I am a fish.
02:19 < beaneater> I am a fish.
02:19 < beaneater> I am a fish.
02:19 < beaneater> I am a fish.
02:20 < Yoda> ENOUGH RIMMER
02:21 < pajh> four hours to sleep. I go bedwards now.
02:22 < pajh> see all y'all in the pub
02:22 < Yoda> night mate
02:27 < Yoda> stopped now
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10:33 < beaneater> *yawn*
10:33 -!- beaneater changed the topic of #compsoc to: Good luck to everyone who has exams | Meet today, Peartree, usual time | http://canalboater.blogspot.com | tef has a "beard"
10:34 -!- beaneater changed the topic of #compsoc to: Good luck to everyone who has exams | "Meet" today, Peartree, "usual" time | http://canalboater.blogspot.com | tef has a "beard"
10:34  * beaneater goes insane.
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11:52 < beaneater> this morning?
12:02 < Pronto> the show?
12:04 < beaneater> heh no
12:05 < Pronto> what then?
12:06 < beaneater> I hate Computer Networks!!!!
12:06 < Pronto> have to learn about bluetooth -> ironically, have the worst toothache EVER!
12:06 < beaneater> when your exam?>
12:06 < Pronto> CN tomorrow afternoon
12:06 < beaneater> oh
12:07 < Pronto> its going to be awful
12:07 < Pronto> I don't understand why you have to memorise what the hell an IP packet looks like
12:07 < Pronto> or made up of
12:07 < Pronto> :[
12:07  * Pronto really, really DEPRESSED
12:08 < beaneater> you should know IP packets
12:08 < beaneater> isn't that general knowledge? ;)
12:09 < Pronto> all the headers? the whole shebang?
12:10 < Pronto> surely you can looked that stuff up, you don't *need* to memorise it
12:11 < Pronto> its as pointless as the OSI Reference Model
12:11 < Pronto> that's all it is - a "REFERENCE" model
12:11 < Pronto> why bother memorising it ... ?
12:11 < Pronto> memorising != learning
12:12 < beaneater> nobody's going to have any confidence in you if you don't even know OSI
12:12 < beaneater> even though it's not really important
12:13 < Pronto> I know OSI, damn it, I know the whole thing off by heart - engraved in my head. Damn it, if I lose my half my memory, one of the things that I'll remember is this stupid, pointless OSI reference model
12:14 < Pronto> what are you doing here anyway? thought you have exams today?
12:15 < beaneater> yup :(
12:15 < beaneater> I was having some chicken soup
12:15 < Pronto> how did it go?
12:15 < beaneater> it's 2pm
12:15 < Pronto> Embedded Systems?
12:15 < beaneater> CA
12:16 < Pronto> feeling good?
12:16 < beaneater> no
12:16 < Pronto> oh ...
12:16 < beaneater> feeling dodgy.
12:17 < Pronto> you'll do fine tho ... you always seem to
12:24 < Pronto> anyway, good luck mate
12:24 < Pronto> I'm off to learn more about boring stuff
12:24 < beaneater> cheers. you going to be in the Pear Tree?
12:24 < beaneater> I might pop in after my exam
12:24 < Pronto> yeah, around 4pm-ish
12:24 < beaneater> cool
12:24 < Pronto> for an hour or so
12:25 < Pronto> so cya then
12:25 < Pronto> bye now
12:25 < beaneater> bye
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14:08 < Pronto> anyone around?
14:08 < Pronto> need help
14:08 < Pronto> does anyone know whether we're on IPv4 or IPv6?
14:15 < Pronto> http://rfc.net/rfc1882.html
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15:11 < tef> who is we?
15:18 < Pronto> the world
15:18 < Pronto> in general
15:18 < Pronto> its ok, solved the problem
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15:53 < electron> Yoda|library: you around?
15:53 < Yoda|library> yeah
15:54 -!- Yoda|library is now known as Yoda
15:54 < Yoda> but going to Peartree in a sec
15:54 < Yoda> how was the exam?
15:54 < electron> alright
15:55 < electron> wasn't too difficult, but had to waffle aka make stuff up a bit
15:55 < electron> you going to peartree yeah?
15:55 < electron> I couldn't see any compsoc people there
15:55 < Yoda> in a sec
15:55 < electron> k
15:55 < Yoda> just have to sort out some stuff first
15:55 < electron> ok, tell me when
15:55 < Yoda> my parents have the worst timing ever
15:56 < Yoda> k, will do
15:56 < electron> hehe, my parents searched for me last week, went around flats in my block but couldn't find me
15:56 < electron> bad timing indeed
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16:00 < electron> hrm
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19:23 < beaneater> hey 
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19:43 < Electron> Yoda: we're on IPv4, most routers don't support IPv6 yet - though I'm on both :)
19:44 < Electron> sis0: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
19:44 < Electron> 	inet6 fe80::240:f4ff:fe57:9871%sis0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2 
19:44 < Electron> 	inet 10.6.0.100 netmask 0xffff0000 broadcast 10.6.255.255
19:44 < Electron> 	ether 00:40:f4:57:98:71
19:44 < Electron> 	media: Ethernet 100baseTX
19:44 < Electron> 	status: active
19:44 < Electron> inet6 == IPv6, inet == IPv4
19:45 < Electron> hang on - surely after studying networking for 10 weeks you know what about IPv4 and IPv6 ?!?
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20:07 -!- Pronto changed the topic of #compsoc to: Good luck to everyone who has exams | http://canalboater.blogspot.com | tef has a "beard" | I hate Computer Networks!!!!
20:25 < Pronto> lol @ http://rfc.net/rfc3514.txt
20:26 < Electron> Pronto: we use IPv4, not IPv6
20:26 < Pronto> yeah i know
20:27 < Electron> though I use both, and had a strange case where I could use an IPv6 address but not an IPv4 one a few days ago
21:06 -!- Electron is now known as Electron|zzz
21:17 < Pronto> Michael, you around?
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21:20 < pajh> I went to Michael's house. I went to the back door. I said "Is Michael there please?" His mum said "He's round at the front". I said "I know what he looks like".
21:20 < pajh> Ba-dum, ting
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22:44 < Yoda> haha, that was so NOT funny
22:47 -!- uberjoe [uberjoe@justinh.force9.co.uk] has joined #compsoc
22:47 < Yoda> aha
22:47 < Yoda> Joe
22:47 < uberjoe> hello :)
22:47 < Yoda> you got home quick
22:47 < Yoda> must be just round the corner
22:47 < uberjoe> indeed, I stay next to the pleasance
22:47 < Yoda> St John's Hill?
22:47 < Yoda> is it uni accomodation?
22:48 < uberjoe> yup
22:48 < uberjoe> well
22:48 < uberjoe> Darroch Court is
22:48 < Yoda> well, i was half right
22:49 < uberjoe> yup
22:49 < uberjoe> very good guess :)
22:50 < uberjoe> since New Arthur Place is technically closer
22:50 < Yoda> Linux runs Office XP, but not Outlook
22:50 < Yoda> http://uk.news.yahoo.com/030423/152/dyd4l.html
22:51 < uberjoe> hmm
22:53 < uberjoe> the bit about XML sounds dodgy to me, cos last I heard MS had a hand in developing it
22:53 < Yoda> dodgy because MS was helping to develop it?
22:55 < Yoda> 2003.04.22 -- CodeWeavers CrossOver Office® 2.0.0 Ships
22:56 < Yoda> http://www.codeweavers.com/home/ <--- bringing Windows software to Linux
23:00 < uberjoe> no, dodgy because their trying to suggest openoffice is supperior to MS cos it uses XML as a file format
23:06 < Yoda> The second new feature is automatic configuration. With automatic configuration, you'll be able to plug your Internet aware refrigerator into the household net, and *blam*, it'll be on the Internet, without having to diddle with the refrigerator at all; automatic configuration is part and parcel of IPv6, so you don't have to have any sort of administration server to take care of things. This means that even the most technophobic person will be able to get th
23:06 < Yoda> net
23:06 < Yoda> scary thought
23:26 < uberjoe> dangerous thought
23:27 < uberjoe> you'll no longer need at least a small part of geek in you to use the internet at its full potential
23:28 < uberjoe> well, perhaps not full potential
23:39 < Yoda> imagine playing Quake 3 multiplayer over the net on your fridge
23:39 < Yoda> that would freak your mum out
23:48 < uberjoe> hehehehe
23:48 < Yoda> Effectively "3ffe:8000:beef:dead:babe::0" is a completely logical address that could be seen being transmitted on the hardware-level. And! With all luck, such an address will even pop up at some point in your local neighbourhood. With a completely made-up ratio of 1:2, it's actually more likely than winning a medium-size lottery. 
23:48 < uberjoe> lol
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00:27 -!- Yoda changed the topic of #compsoc to: Good luck to everyone who has exams | tef has a "beard" | can we have these on the back of the t-shirts: http://www.everything2.org/index.pl?lastnode_id=519570&node_id=485820
00:34 < Yoda> lol @ http://www.everything2.org/index.pl?lastnode_id=1045497&node_id=1049916
01:18 < uberjoe> http://www.everything2.org/index.pl?lastnode_id=485820&node_id=669192 <- the things we do to entertain ourselves
01:20 < Yoda> They did this for about half an hour.
01:20 < Yoda> It was pretty cool.
01:20 < Yoda> ^ lol
01:20 < Yoda> off to bed ...
01:21 < Yoda> night
01:21 -!- Yoda is now known as Yoda|sleep
01:38 < pajh> fulfil the prophecy
01:50 < pajh> <megan_of_wutai> (black leather trenchcoat)++
01:50 < pajh> YES!
02:12 < uberjoe> hehehe
02:13 < uberjoe> (off to bed :)
02:23 -!- tef is now known as pimp
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12:08 < uberjoe> U R teh wench-monger!
12:08 < beaneater> gah
12:21 -!- Yoda changed the topic of #compsoc to: Dale Winton is getting married! | tef has a "beard" | can we have these on the back of the t-shirts: http://www.everything2.org/index.pl?lastnode_id=519570&node_id=485820
12:26 < uberjoe> Yoda: who to ?
12:26 < Yoda> no idea, he didn't say
12:26 < Yoda> watch This Morning
12:28 < beaneater> now I have a picture of him getting married to Richard and Judy
12:28 < Yoda> Richard AND Judy
12:28 < Yoda> don't you mean just Richard ;)
12:32 < beaneater> no
12:32 < beaneater> it would be more amusing
12:32 < Yoda> strange yet true
12:33 < beaneater> looking forward to CN?
12:33 < Yoda> do you think the human race would be better if we had cynetic implants to allow knowledge to be directly "plugged" in rather than learning/memorising it all?
12:33 < Yoda> e.g. Deus Ex stylee
12:33 < beaneater> heh
12:34 < Yoda> no, serious question
12:34 < beaneater> open book exams
12:34 < Yoda> then you can use the human brain to directly apply the knowledge that's all
12:34 < Yoda> it'll save years of examinations
12:35 < Yoda> not looking forward to CN at all, had HCI this morning and that was a nightmare and a half
12:35 < beaneater> eww
12:35 < Yoda> am looking up stuff on 802.11 and bluetooth at the moment
12:35 < beaneater> bluetooth is actually now 802.something
12:36 < beaneater> isn't it
12:36 < Yoda> !
12:36 < Yoda> have to look that up
13:00 < Yoda> do routers work at level 7 of the OSI model? I always thought it would be working at the lower levels - e.g. level 3 (Network layer)
13:00 < Yoda> or even level 2 - Data Link
13:01 < beaneater> I can say for sure that it's not level 7 ;)
13:02 < beaneater> well what level's IP?
13:02 < Yoda> i think 2
13:02 < beaneater> no
13:02 < Yoda> not entirely sure
13:02 < beaneater> surely not
13:02 < beaneater> ?
13:02 < Yoda> level 3
13:02 < Yoda> network layer
13:02 < Yoda> then
13:02 < Yoda> :?
13:03 < beaneater> I don't do networking, but I thought so
13:03 < beaneater> routers certainly grok IP
13:03 < beaneater> ask somebody who knows
13:03 < beaneater> sorry
13:04 < Yoda> np
13:04 < uberjoe> I think IP is level 3
13:05 < uberjoe> level to is MAC
13:05 < uberjoe> and stuff
13:05 < beaneater> I think my mental map is "hubs = L1, switches = L2, routers = L3"
13:05 < Yoda> right, that's what i thought
13:05 < uberjoe> hmm that makes sense
13:05 < beaneater> and TCP is layer 4 then?
13:06 < Yoda> then again, i shouldn't be revising from nodes from e2 ;)
13:06 < beaneater> heh
13:06 < beaneater> or talking to people not doing CN;)
13:06 < Yoda> ;)
13:06 < beaneater> ;) ;) ;) ;)
13:06 < beaneater> /join #chitchat
13:09 < beaneater> Yoda: I was joking, there are very many ;) there
13:09 < Yoda> o
13:09  * Yoda feeling embarrassed
13:34 < Electron> physical, link, network ?
13:34 < Electron> so level 3?
13:36 < Electron> yeah, level 3 is network, 4 is transport
13:36 -!- Yoda is now known as Yoda|exam
13:36 < Electron> gl
13:36 < Yoda|exam> thz mate
16:00 < beaneater> </FPLS>
16:00 < beaneater> woo!
16:07 < Electron> now you've got Computer Graphics to look forward to :)
16:25 < beaneater> sod off
16:25 < beaneater> :)
16:25 < beaneater> and CS
16:28 -!- Yoda|exam is now known as Yoda
16:43 < Yoda> FREE FROM COMPUTER NETWORKS!!!
16:43 < Yoda> yeah!!!
17:14 < beaneater> you were tied up in cat-5?
17:17 < meng> or stuck in excessive network traffic
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17:32 < Yoda> ha ha 
17:32 < Yoda> not funny
17:32  * beaneater whips Yoda with the cat-5-o-nine-tails
17:34 < meng> oi
17:34 < meng> no whipping in here
17:34 < beaneater> why not?
17:34 < Yoda> lol
17:35 < meng> compsoc must not descend to that level
17:36 < Yoda> what level?
17:37 < meng> i was afraid you'd ask  :
17:37 < Yoda> :
17:37 < meng> .... : ....
17:40 < Yoda> .... : .... ?
17:40 < beaneater> :--
17:40 < beaneater> :-
17:40 < beaneater> :
17:40 < Yoda> _
17:41 < uberjoe> ;++
17:44 < Yoda> @@@@@::::>>><<>?.,.,./,,./
17:48 < meng> .....................|...|
17:49 < meng> --------------------------
17:49 < Yoda> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<]
17:49 < Yoda> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
17:49 < meng> --------------------------
17:49 < Yoda> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
17:49 < Yoda> ??????????????????????????????????????????????????
17:49 < Yoda> :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
17:49 < meng> :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
17:49 < Yoda> stop it
17:50 < Yoda> you're not funny
17:50 < meng> nor are you
17:50 < Yoda> meng != funny
17:50 < Yoda> i so am
17:50 < meng> right then
17:50 < Yoda> where are you?
17:50 < Yoda> FH?
17:50 < meng> no, for once
17:50 < meng> in my flat
17:51 < Yoda> I am going to press my big red button over your flat!
17:51 < Yoda> mmwwwhhahhahhahahhaha <evil luagh #72>
17:51 < meng> no point, the green DISABLE button is next to me here
17:51 < Yoda> I have a bigger red NO BACKUP button
17:52 < meng> not if I press DISABLE and flip CANCEL
17:52 < Yoda> i really can't be bothered to argue
17:53 < Yoda> wanna game of pool tonight>?
17:53 < Yoda> or cant you hack it?
17:53 < meng> oi
17:53 < meng> so presumptious of you
17:53 < Yoda> that's a no then
17:53 < meng> could do
17:53 < Yoda> my, what big words do you have
17:54 < Yoda> could do == no because i'm not good enough
17:54 < meng> blah blah
17:54 < Yoda> yeah yea
17:54 < meng> whatever
17:54 < Yoda> so what's your answer?
17:55 < meng> i thought you already answered for me
17:55 < Yoda> sorry, i should have guessed
17:57 < Yoda> how presumptious of me
17:57 < meng> Quite.
17:58 < meng> or, photosoc on tonight
17:58 < Yoda> what do you think then?
17:58 < Yoda> about the link
17:58 < meng> what link
17:58 < Yoda> we're playing at 9.30pm
17:58 < meng> who
17:58 < Yoda> the topic?
17:59 < meng> oh
17:59 < Yoda> me and Steve
17:59 < Yoda> you know Steve, don't you?
17:59 < meng> dont think so
17:59 < Yoda> oh and Angus is coming to boat trip
18:00 < meng> does that make 6 now
18:00 < Yoda> 7
18:00 < Yoda> Mark's coming too
18:00 < Yoda> just one more
18:01 < Yoda> this really might be MATCHED
18:02 < meng> MATCHED 1
18:02 < Yoda> MATCHED #1
18:02 < beaneater> /1/
18:02 < Yoda> i might actually do the RFC thing tonight
18:04 < meng> did you write something up about it already
18:05 < Yoda> no, been really all those funny April Fools RFCs
18:08 -!- foo [~foo@81-86-118-241.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #compsoc
18:08 < Yoda> foo ? who are you?
18:08 < Yoda> explain yourself
18:08 < meng> it's one of mine
18:09 < Yoda> you're what? split personalities
18:09 < meng> no a bot
18:09 < Yoda> what does your bot do?
18:09 < meng> dunno yet
18:09 < meng> foo: stats
18:10 < meng> foo: die
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18:10 < meng> cool
18:10 < Yoda> lol
18:10 < Yoda> meng : die
18:10 < meng> ha!
18:10 < meng> doesn't work for me
18:10 < Yoda> doesn't have the same effect
18:10 < Yoda> don't forget, the BIG RED BUTTON
18:13 -!- foo [~foo@81-86-118-241.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #compsoc
18:13 < Yoda> not again!
18:14 < meng> foo: stats
18:14 < meng> foo: sayhi
18:14 -foo:#compsoc- hello irc world
18:14 < meng> does everyone see that
18:14 < Yoda> no
18:14 < Yoda> see what?
18:14 < meng> 18:14 -foo:#compsoc- hello irc world
18:15 < Yoda> no then
18:15 < meng> hum
18:15 < meng> i think we need to have a compsoc rfc bot
18:15 < Yoda> how would that work?
18:15 < meng> but, we would have to have an rfc for the bot before we could have an rfc bot
18:16 < Yoda> beat me to typing that
18:16 < Yoda> but yeah
18:16 < Yoda> now we need to write an rfc about the format of the rfc
18:16 < Yoda> the RFC actually have one
18:16 < Yoda> so i'm not talking crap
18:17 < meng> foo: die
18:17 -!- foo [~foo@81-86-118-241.dsl.pipex.com] has quit [Client Quit]
18:17 < Yoda> ooooowwwww
18:17 < meng> but how long winded is this going to be
18:18 < Yoda> about?
18:18 < meng> if we have all these standards and rfcs all written up
18:18 < Yoda> come out tonight and we'll talk about it
18:18 < meng> where you going, tevior
18:18 < meng> teviot even
18:18 < Yoda> yeah
18:18 < Yoda> we'll be there from 10-1am
18:19 < meng> sportsman bar
18:19 < Yoda> so you can go to photosoc too!
18:19 < Yoda> yeah
18:19 < Yoda> where else?
18:19 < Yoda> ;)
18:19 < meng> your usual haunt
18:19 < meng> not sure i can be bothered to go to photosoc
18:19 < Yoda> ooooOOOOOOOhhhhhh
18:19 < meng> it's agm next week , maybe i go then
18:20 < Yoda> are you sure they're ok with that?
18:20 < Yoda> ;)
18:20 < Yoda> i have the funniest thing to tell you about
18:21 < Yoda> so you coming or not?
18:21 < meng> k
18:21 < meng> see you there at 10
18:21 < Yoda> with pen and paper?
18:21 < Yoda> i'll have to blog the canal trip up again
18:21 < Yoda> so i'll work on the rfc thing
18:21 < Yoda> btw ...
18:22 < Yoda> are we going to call it rfc for our rfc, and RFC for the proper ones?
18:22 < meng> maybe we should get a witty acronym
18:23 < meng> after all, we're full of witty acronyms in compsoc
18:23 < Yoda> i thought we should have a rfc for rfcs, then if it's good enough to be a project, call it CSP (CompSoc Project) and if its really good, then call it MATCHED
18:23 < Yoda> sick for acronyms from CN
18:24 < Yoda> am free for ever and ever
18:24 < Yoda> and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever
18:24 < Yoda> i want break free!
18:24 < Yoda> i ... forgot the rest of the words
18:26 < meng> anyway, got stuff to do
18:26 < meng> slept most of day after handing in 25 page epic this morning
18:26 < meng> will see you at 10
18:26 < meng> sportsman bar
18:26 < meng> with pen and paper
18:27 -!- Yoda is now known as Yoda|AT
18:29 -!- You're now known as meng|isnothere
19:42 -!- pimp is now known as tef
19:54 < uberjoe> http://www.gibsonmagic.com/digitalguitar.html
20:53 < tef> http://www.flibz.com/goatsetart.jpg
20:53 < uberjoe> ....
20:54 < uberjoe> goatse...
20:54 < uberjoe> ah
20:55 < uberjoe> pie
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21:05 < nine9> tef has a beard!?
21:05 < nine9> eh?
21:06  * nine9 pokes Yoda|AT
21:28 -!- nine9 is now known as nine9_www
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--- Day changed Fri Apr 25 2003
00:34 -!- Yoda|AT is now known as Yoda
00:34 < Yoda> helloooooooooooooooooooooooooooo everyoen
00:35 < Yoda> heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeekkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkooooooooooooooooooooo
00:35 < Yoda> ??
00:35 < Yoda> safjkaslfjjfksalfjkdsaf
00:35 < Yoda> fkdasjfkljakfdjlajsfdklasf
00:35 < Yoda> safjksaljfldkjflads
00:35 < Yoda> jfdklasjfkldsaj
00:38 < Yoda>  lalallalallaallalala
00:38 < Yoda> Monkey boy
00:38 < Yoda> you winmp
00:38 < Yoda> you didn't turn up
00:43  * Yoda slaps meng|isnothere around a bit with a large trout
00:43 < Electron> hey Yoda 
00:43 < Yoda> yo yo yo!
00:43 < Yoda> wasssssup!
00:44 < Electron> good night - just come back from pubbing
00:44 < Electron> how's you?
00:44 < Yoda> me too
00:44 < Yoda> where pubbing?
00:44 < Yoda> a tiny bit drunk
00:45 < Electron> I'm quite a bit drunk
00:45 < Electron> the Auld Hoose
00:45 < Yoda> Gamesoc
00:45 < Yoda> blah
00:45 < Electron> gamesoc + random CS3 people
00:46 < Yoda> could we, in thoery, use nicks webcam to see if he's not there
00:46 < Yoda> and if he's not, rob him
00:46 < Yoda> he;ll never know
00:46 < Yoda> jkafjda
00:46 < Yoda> jkdalsjfkldjaslfja
00:46 < Yoda> fkalsjfksadj;lfjdas
00:46 < Yoda> ajfkdljkajfldsa
00:46 < Yoda> jafksldjfkjaljfe
00:46 < Yoda> jfkaljsdljal;fds
00:46 < Electron> gjitjbjfdsbjifjibobjojbrjorbojfd
00:46 < Yoda> afhkdlafj;jf
00:46 < Yoda> ajfkldjlafjdalsjfkdlasjflajfkdsjfls
00:46 < Electron> jovdsjovdsjosd
00:46 < Electron> rwg9u4ut4jkvdfsjivazjklvmx
00:47 < Yoda> lalalalalallalallalalallallalalala
00:48 < Yoda> think i'd better get to bed
00:48 < Electron> 10101010111010101110101010101
00:48 < Yoda> but not sure wheter to call michael firs nad shout at him for not being at aeteviot
00:48 < Electron> I thought you were staying at teviot till 1am
00:49 < Electron> I thought about calling in on my way home and saying hi, but decided not to
00:49 < Yoda> we were, nnut Steve inivted his flamttate
00:49 < Electron> and?
00:49 < Yoda> he is sooooo anal when his flatmate is around
00:49 < Yoda> completely ignores me
00:49 < Electron> hehe
00:49 < Yoda> so i don't bother
00:49 < Electron> sounds familier somehow
00:50 < Yoda> saw some rnadom cs4 guy
00:50 < Yoda> and he was wasterd
00:50 < Yoda> nad we and this other random girl
00:50 < Yoda> went to peppermint
00:50 < Yoda> and got drunk
00:50 < Electron> cool
00:50 < Electron> who was the random cs4 guy?
00:50 < Yoda> anyway
00:50 < Yoda> no idea
00:50 < Yoda> i dont] know his name
00:51 < Yoda> but i',m ofgg to bed
00:51 < Electron> nn
00:51 < Yoda> if you see michael, 
00:51 < Yoda> tekk him to call me
00:51 < Yoda> it's about this boat trip things
00:51 < Yoda> bed
00:51 < Yoda> night
00:51 < Electron> night Kate
01:12  * beaneater points out to kate that he has other rooms in his house
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09:20 < Yoda> HELLO EVERYBODY
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10:31 < beaneater> HELLO DEARIE
10:32 < Yoda> isn't it actually HELLO DOLLY?
10:32 < beaneater> you seemed to be hard of hearing
10:33 < Yoda> me?
10:33 < Yoda> I have S Club on the background
10:33 < Yoda> so i can't hear anything
11:04 < Yoda> why's there no one around?
11:19 < Electron> maybe nobody has anything to say
11:23 < beaneater> could be
12:12 < Electron> Apple make such beautiful hardware
12:13 < Electron> I have a computer here which looks like it's just out of a factory, yet it's 8 years old :)
12:23 < Yoda> so, so true
12:23 < Yoda> Apple have the best looking computers
12:24 < Electron> I've just got the Performa 630 from the KBC
12:24 < Electron> 500MB SCSI disk and built-in CD drive :D
12:24 < Yoda> is it good?
12:24 < Yoda> what will u use it for?
12:24 < Electron> I need converters/cables for keyboard/mouse/video
12:25 < Electron> probably install netbsd and use it as a server
12:25 < Yoda> cool
12:25 < Electron> or just play around with it, then use it as a doorstop
12:25 < Yoda> lol
12:25 < Electron> what I don't understand it, everything inside looks brand new
12:26 < Yoda> I think that kind of stuff would be great for general DTP and Word processing
12:26 < Yoda> who needs a 2Ghz computer to run latex?
12:26 < Yoda> or MS Word?
12:27 < beaneater> emacs ;)
12:27 < beaneater> e.g. w3
12:36 < Yoda> right kids, i'm off
12:36 < Yoda> have a good weekend
12:36 < Yoda> and c u all on Monday for the CS exam ;)
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13:02 < beaneater> sod CS
13:02 < beaneater> sod CG
13:07 < Electron> :)
13:08 < beaneater> bastarding exams
13:09  * beaneater wonders why he opted to waste time spodding this morning instead effectively of being paid to revise
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17:24  * pajh has Pocky and you don't. Fear him.
17:27 < beaneater> Pocky?
17:27 < beaneater> pajh: also, were you looking at me funny in AT5, or just looking funny in my direction?
17:29 < uberjoe> is Pocky good ?
17:29 < pajh> beaneater: I had a demonstrator-type question, but you were busy.
17:30 < pajh> And I always look funny.
17:30 < beaneater> did you resolve your issue?
17:30 < pajh> No.
17:30 < beaneater> Is your issue still an issue?
17:30 < pajh> Yes.
17:31 < beaneater> Can you describe your issue in one word or less?
17:31 < pajh> Um... yes-ish.
17:32 < beaneater> Doish?
17:32 < pajh> Actually, no.
17:33 < beaneater> Can I "help"?
17:33 < beaneater> Is your braindamaged Java code not compiling?
17:33 < beaneater> ;)
17:34 < pajh> I don't have any braindamaged Java code.
17:35 < pajh> Or any Java code at all.
17:35 < beaneater> Good good.
17:35 < beaneater> . o O (This could take some time)
17:36  * pajh samples Almond Pocky
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17:37 < pajh> uberjoe: Yes.
17:37 < meng> A realistic synthesis of almonds ?
17:37 < pajh> Not even remotely.
17:37 < pajh> More like that Nestle caramel chocolate-analogue you used to get
17:39 < pajh> I also have Hello Panda
17:40 < meng> Hello, Panda!
17:40 < meng> I prefer the Koalas
17:44 < pajh> It really /is/ The Super Snack that's great anytime, anywhere.
17:45 < meng> http://www.lotte.co.jp/choco/h1.html
17:46 < pajh> Am I supposed to be able to read that?
17:46 < pajh> It's all in Foreign.
17:48 < meng> http://www.glico.co.jp/info/pocky/pocky_g/intro.htm
17:48 < meng> It's HARD ... AND RICH
17:48 < meng> YES!  LET'S ENJOY THIS PLEASING TASTE SENSATION!
17:50 < pajh> Who's the guy?
17:50 < pajh> Is he some sort of Nipponese Vinnie Jones?
17:50 < pajh> Also hard & rich?
17:51 < beaneater> pajh: Would you care to ask your question?
17:51 < beaneater> In some appropriate medium?
17:51 < beaneater> At some appropriate time?
17:52 < pajh> Thanks, Nick, but I can't be bothered
17:53 < pajh> Have been Cascading all day
17:53 < pajh> Will sort it later
17:53 < meng> Kazuyuki Tota, a `water athlete'
17:53 < meng> I hope they paid him well
17:54 < pajh> Dude. He's advertising Pocky. There is no better job.
17:55 < pajh> Except possibly eating Pocky.
17:55 < meng> Actually, my mistake
17:56 < meng> isn't kazuyuki toda one of those japanese players in premier league who sit on benches
17:57 < meng> yes, Hotspur.  And in his spare time, he advertises Pocky, and presumably gets to eat it too.
18:00 < meng> anyway
18:00 < meng> about boat, apparently we need one more person
18:00 < meng> would anyone care to make a nomination
18:07 < pajh> what list have we?
18:09 < meng> look on kate's web thingy
18:09 < tef> i pity the
18:09 < tef> and oh shit
18:09 < tef> forgot to go the bank as per defualt.
18:10 < pajh> foo?
18:10 < tef> curse my short term memory loss.
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18:13 < meng_> f
18:14 < meng_> foo_: sayhi
18:14 -foo_:#compsoc- hello irc world
18:16 < pajh> foo_?
18:16 < meng> foo_: die
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18:19 < meng> i'll take over the world yet
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18:20 < foo__> d
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18:20 < foo__>                   GNU LESSER GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE
18:20 < foo__>                        Version 2.1, February 1999
18:20 < foo__>  Copyright (C) 1991, 1999 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
18:20 < foo__>      59 Temple Place, Suite 330, Boston, MA  02111-1307  USA
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18:20 < Electron> fubar'd ?
18:22 < meng> not yet
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18:24 < foo__> You will probably marry after a very brief courtship.
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18:24 < foo__> Hedonist for hire... no job too easy!
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18:24 < foo__> Regnant populi.
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18:25 < beaneater> argh
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18:25 < foo___> Life is like a tin of sardines.  We're, all of us, looking for the key.
18:25 < foo___> 		-- Beyond the Fringe
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18:26 < pajh> foortune?
18:26 < meng> well spotted
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18:27 < foo31784> QOTD:
18:27 < foo31784> 	"It was so cold last winter that I saw a lawyer with his
18:27 < foo31784> 	hands in his own pockets."
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03:15 < uberjoe> ugh
03:18 < pajh> ugh?
03:19 < tef> lo
03:20 < pajh> hi.
03:20 < tef> i went to http://www.triptych03.com/triptych.html
03:20 < tef> it rocked.
03:21 < pajh> I went to bed
03:21 < pajh> like, now.
03:22 < tef> ok oh
04:05 < uberjoe> isn't triptych a weekend long thing ?
04:05 < uberjoe> kinda like a festival spread accross scotland
04:05 < tef> yes
04:05 < tef> and we went to one thing in it
04:05 < tef> warp djs and friends
04:06 < uberjoe> cool
04:06 < uberjoe> #resnet went to a party
04:06 < uberjoe> more or less
04:07 < tef> fun.
04:07 < tef> no, really.
04:07 < tef> i'm sure they're all lovely people
04:07 < uberjoe> yup, until the police turned up
04:08 < uberjoe> arwyn was there
04:10 < uberjoe> channel spammer favourite Slowriot was blamed for throwing a bottle out the window, I don't think he did though
04:13 < uberjoe> but aye, nice people
04:13 < uberjoe> ended up tagging along with Seth Shabble and teh Norgg for a bit then left them to it
04:15 < uberjoe> tis odd how different people are to the way you percieve them
04:35 < uberjoe> (bed)
04:35 < tef> yes
04:35 < tef> and on that note.
04:35 < tef> bed
08:07 < Electron> uberjoe: did Memphis (Kevin) find the place in the end?
12:26 < uberjoe> yes he did
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20:06 < uberjoe> evenin' all
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21:03 < uberjoe> yey!
21:05 < uberjoe> anyone awake ?
21:20 < uberjoe> thats a no then
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21:34 < Leynos> No one's here :(
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21:44 < Leynos> Paul, you going to Paul Verhoeven Night?
21:46 < pajh> depends on my rota.
21:46 < Leynos> ok
21:46 < Leynos> It'd be an all night thing, so you could show up any time
21:57 < pajh> probably will.
22:31 < uberjoe> yarr.
22:58 < pajh> wench.
22:58 < Leynos> Aarrrrrrrrrr.
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00:22 < meng|is|out> Who is this judeo?
00:22 < meng|is|out> Is he being mysterious ?
00:23 < meng|is|out> http://isd.usc.edu/~barney/Pics/romance.swf
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01:03 < meng|is|out> right then
01:03 < Yoda> right
01:03 < Yoda> right now
01:03 -!- You're now known as meng
01:03 < meng> ok
01:03 < meng> so then, right
01:03 < Yoda> ...
01:04 < meng> :
01:04 < Yoda> no colons
01:04 < Yoda> unless you want me to call again!
01:04 < meng> er
01:04 < meng> is it that bad
01:04 < Yoda> yeah, i'll call and shout at you and stuff
01:05 < Yoda> anyway
01:05 < Yoda> rfc or boater first?
01:05 < Yoda> topic of conversation
01:05 < Yoda> that is
01:05 < meng> boat is more urgent
01:05 < Yoda> "urgent"
01:06 < Yoda> hold on, have to google it first
01:06 < Yoda> incidentally, how big is your car?
01:07 < meng> well, it's a 205
01:08 < meng> so 4 average size persons is ok
01:08 < Yoda> 205? 
01:08 < meng> 5 is a bit painful for a long trip
01:08 < meng> 6 is bad
01:08 < Yoda> 4 is cool
01:08 < meng> and 7 is just silly, tried it
01:08 < Yoda> i can fit 4 in
01:08 < Yoda> we did 8 in a small car once
01:08 < Yoda> how many rugby girls can you fit in a car
01:09 < meng> ... punchline
01:12 < meng> anyway
01:12 < meng> looks like all the nothern routes in the alvechurch brochure are return or ring
01:12 < Yoda> http://www.shirecruisers.co.uk/olavail.htm
01:12 < Yoda> search for 8/10 berth boats, midweek, June 21 - 30
01:13 < Yoda> shows 1 boat
01:13 < Yoda> the "York"
01:13 < Yoda> looks good?
01:13 < Yoda> 778 quid
01:13 < Yoda> that's about 90 odd quid between 8 of us
01:14 < meng> let me look at the route
01:14 < meng> Short Break Boat: Sowerby Bridge &
01:14 < meng>                                                                  return 
01:15 < meng> monday 2pm to friday 9am
01:16 < meng> that price is for 6 ppl right
01:16 < Yoda> no
01:16 < Yoda> well
01:16 < Yoda> i'll check
01:16 < meng> says at bottom, priced for six, lists surcharge
01:16 < meng> on the boat detail page
01:16 < Yoda> yeah
01:16 < Yoda> just saw that
01:17 < Yoda> so £878 
01:17 < Yoda> for 8 of us
01:17 < Yoda> maybe we should look for another place ...
01:19 < Yoda> http://www.black-prince.com/loc_flkrk.htm
01:19 < Yoda> tempted?
01:20 < meng> falkirk !
01:20 < Yoda> lol
01:20 < meng> http://www.black-prince.com/prices.htm
01:28 < Yoda> there's a canal in Scotland called Loch Lochy?
01:29 < meng> lochy loch lochy
01:32 < Yoda> http://www.silsdenboats.co.uk/price.htm
01:32 < Yoda> try that
01:33 < Yoda> Liverpool - Leeds canal
01:33 < Yoda> through the Yorkshire Dales - scenic, quiet and sounds fantastic
01:35 < meng> yeah sounds good !
01:35 < meng> #
01:35 < meng> is it a oneway
01:36 < meng> doesn't give a route for short break
01:36 < Yoda> no, but that doesn't matter too much
01:36 < Yoda> we just go one way for 2 1/2 days
01:36 < Yoda> then find somewhere to turn
01:37 < Yoda> and head back
01:37 < Yoda> simple
01:37 < meng> true
01:37 < meng> do you want to drop them a mail, find out if they have free boats that week
01:37 < meng> or shall i
01:38 < Yoda> might be better if you do it, you're better with words
01:38 < Yoda> and stuff like that
01:38 < Yoda> It is also possible to use the roof of the cabin to sit or sunbathe on.
01:39 < Yoda> damn right!
01:39 < meng> we're a group of 7 right, how many days 4 or 5 ?
01:40 < Yoda> 8
01:40 < Yoda> they usually only do 5 days
01:40 < Yoda> 4 nights stay
01:40 < Yoda> Mon-Thurs
01:40 < Yoda> Fri return
01:40 < Yoda> ask them if they do 7, but they might only do 8
01:42 < meng> looks like we the boats come configured for 6 by default
01:42 < meng> but there are bunks to bring it up to 7 or 8
01:42 < meng> difference is, these guys don't surcharge like the other lot
01:42 < meng> or so it seems
01:43 < meng> "Buoyancy Aids are available free of charge. "
01:43 < Yoda> does that reassure you somewhat?
01:43 < Yoda> surely you can swim?
01:43 < Yoda> right?
01:44 < meng> yes
01:44 < meng> but so's long we don't return to base clutching only a bouyancy aid
01:44 < meng> "dunno what happened guv, the boat disappeared"
01:45 < Yoda> oh yeah, we've got these t-shirts to talk about too
01:45 < meng> wk 11 starts 23 june
01:46 < Yoda> yeah
01:48 < meng> Um
01:48 < Yoda> what?
01:48 < meng> You do realise the beds on these boats are doubles most of them
01:48 < meng> http://www.silsdenboats.co.uk/fleet.htm
01:48 < Yoda> i thought about that ...
01:48 < meng> Er
01:48 < Yoda> surely, it's not that much of a problem?
01:49 < Yoda> you boys aren't scared of each other are you?
01:49 < meng> so long as nobody snores
01:49 < Yoda> it'll be ok
01:49 < Yoda> i hope
01:49 < meng> if there's one thing that annoys me, it's midnight tractors
01:49 < Yoda> i think
01:50 < Yoda> we'll just take everyone who does to a dentist plenty of time beforehand
01:51 < meng> k, email sent
01:51 < Yoda> cool
01:52 < Yoda> it will be damn cosy on this boat wouldn't it
01:52 < Yoda> i'm half expecting Paul to pipe up about it
01:54 < Yoda> in theory, we could actually get a 6 ppl boat
01:54 < Yoda> and sleep 3 in one
01:54 < Yoda> :D
01:54 < Yoda> how funny would that be?
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01:54 < meng> it would be something to remember
01:55 < meng> i get a feeling this whole trip will be
01:55 < Yoda> i think that's the point
01:55 < Yoda> before we all piss off and do other stuff with our lives
01:56 < Yoda> it hit me, yesterday, that Monday will be the last computer science exam i do
01:56 < Yoda> ever ...
01:56 < meng> EVER
01:56 < Yoda> yeah, after 4 years
01:56 < meng> but you never know Kate
01:57 < Yoda> what, do another CS degree?
01:57 < Yoda> no thanks
01:57 < meng> you say that now
01:58 < Yoda> incidentally, presumably, since I'm the only girl going on this trip, I'll get the single bed right? And not have to share with any of you guys?
01:58 < Yoda> particularly if we have alcohol on this trip
01:58 < Yoda> just be a bad idea otherwise
01:58 < meng> i think that would be wise
02:00 < Yoda> we could try Alvechurch again, do the Cheshire (Anderton) route
02:01 < Yoda> but they only have 6 berth boats available that week
02:01 < Yoda> so the aforementioned 3 in a bed arrangement would be funny
02:02 < meng> are computers allowed on these boats
02:03 < Yoda> it freaks me out the fact that having 3 in a bed doesn't warrant a comment, yet whether computers are allowed on these boats does
02:03 < meng> priorities!
02:03 < meng> lol
02:03 < Yoda> i suppose we could all take turns to sleep ...
02:03 < Yoda> some of us have weird sleeping cycles
02:04 < Yoda> omg, we might all come out of it with "normal" sleeping cycles
02:04 < meng> don't count on it
02:04 < Yoda> what? taking in turns?
02:04 < Yoda> or normal sleeping cycles
02:04 < meng> no, normal sleeping cycles
02:05 < meng> these boats look quite spacious though
02:05 < Yoda> another thought, do i have to do all the cooking?
02:05 < meng> what about sleeping bags
02:05 < Yoda> well, you will be sleeping on the ground
02:05 < Yoda> ...
02:05 < Yoda> might be able to sleep on the kitchen floor
02:05 < Yoda> usually more room there
02:08 < meng> do we keep the boat moving all the time
02:08 < Yoda> er, well, we usually "move" during the day i.e. 8am + and stop around 7/8pm-ish, depending on daylight
02:09 < Yoda> plus, we can bring a football and dock somewhere to play footie
02:09 < Yoda> why do you ask
02:09 < meng> wonder how much attention we need to give to 'driving'
02:10 < Yoda> er, well, at least one of us has to do it throughout the day
02:10 < Yoda> but we can all take it in turns
02:10 < meng> yeah
02:10 < Yoda> and its great fun
02:10 < meng> thing is right, what are we going to do on the boat
02:10 < meng> apart from drink
02:10 < meng> and chat
02:10 < Yoda> that's it
02:11 < Yoda> you don't need to do anything else
02:11 < Yoda> if we WANTED to do something else, wouldn't it be ...
02:11 < meng> be what
02:11 < Yoda> Compsoc Goes to Amsterdam
02:11 < Yoda> or
02:11 < Yoda> Compsoc Goes to Dublin
02:11 < Yoda> or something else better?
02:12 < Yoda> the whole point is that we all go and chill
02:12 < Yoda> bring books
02:12 < Yoda> read
02:12 < Yoda> read
02:12 < Yoda> read
02:12 < Yoda> and talk
02:12 < Yoda> and sunbathe
02:12 < Yoda> (shorts and t-shirts would be a good idea)
02:12 < meng> good point, finally time to read
02:12 < Yoda> play chess
02:12 < Yoda> stuff that we don't usually get time for
02:12 < meng> monopoly
02:12 < Yoda> listen to music
02:13 < Yoda> not monopoly
02:13 < meng> monopoly
02:13 < Yoda> incidentally, the crawl is on monday
02:13 < Yoda> and i can't wait!
02:13 < Yoda> well have you got a board?
02:13 < meng> no
02:13 < meng> but someone must
02:13 < Yoda> in compsoc?
02:13 < Yoda> so much easier to play online
02:13 < Yoda> www.games.com
02:14 < meng> you're such a geek, how can you have an argument over the rules online
02:14 < Yoda> but do you get what i'm saying
02:14 < Yoda> you dont!
02:14 < meng> i do
02:14 < Yoda> the computer makes u play to the rules
02:14 < Yoda> but you just like to argue don't you?
02:14 < meng> course i do
02:15 < Yoda> just like Noaf said
02:15 < meng> but with monopoly, it's traditional
02:15 < Yoda> no it's not
02:15 < Yoda> nm
02:15 < Yoda> this is a stupid argument
02:15 < Yoda> games online are so much easier than real life
02:15 < Yoda> plus 26 quid cheaper
02:16 < Yoda> i repeat: do you get what I'm saying about things to do on this trip?
02:16 < Yoda> chill out and relax
02:16 < meng> ok
02:16 < Yoda> and just enjoy the fantastic scenery
02:17 < Yoda> is that a good ok or bad ok?
02:17 < meng> good
02:17 < Yoda> or "i think so, but don't really agree" ok
02:17 < meng> but being chilled isn't normally something i associate with compsoc, that'sall
02:17 < meng> but that might just be me
02:17 < Yoda> apart from being chilled, what have we done?
02:17 < meng> um
02:18 < Yoda> if we weren't chilled, then we would have done tons of stuff by now
02:18 < Yoda> alas, we haven't
02:18 < meng> there's a difference between chilled and apathetic
02:18 < Yoda> i not going to even start
02:19 < meng> ok
02:19 < Yoda> i'm even thinking of going to the 24 hr Tesco 10 miles away
02:19 < Yoda> ]instead of this argument
02:19 < meng> go to bed
02:19 < Yoda> or "heated debate"
02:19 < meng> you have last day of CS revision tomorrow, EVER
02:19 < Yoda> its so unfair
02:19 < Yoda> it's also my last National 7s tournament
02:19 < Yoda> and I can't play
02:20 < Yoda> :(
02:20 < Yoda> and I missed Cup Finals Day today
02:20 < Yoda> it's all this revision crap
02:20 < Yoda> but my bingo card came through today
02:21 < Yoda> so things are looking slightly up
02:21 < meng> lol
02:22 < meng> your exclusive membership card?
02:22 < Yoda> yeah ...
02:22 < Yoda> that and Frank Sinatra playing in the background
02:22 < Yoda> hopefully things will be better
02:23 < Yoda> but think i won't be able to go until mid-June
02:23 < meng> anyway, you have the inaugral kate ho monopoly crawl
02:23 < Yoda> damn disseration
02:23 < Yoda> I've got to go and buy a toy car as well
02:24 < meng> does the person who is the iron have to carry a real iron
02:26 < meng> anyway
02:26 < meng> i going to bed
02:27 < meng> don't go to tescos now kate, it's not worth it
02:27 < meng> niht
02:27 < meng> gh
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02:49 < Yoda> Dave?
02:50 < Leynos> Yeah?
02:50 < Yoda> what's up?
02:50 < Yoda> right, am off to bed
02:50 < Yoda> Oh and Michael
02:50 < Leynos> eh?!?
02:51 < Yoda> for when you read this in the morning
02:51 < Leynos> I've been playing Virtua Cop :)
02:51 < Yoda> bring a camera with you on the canal trip
02:51 < Yoda> there should be some fantastic scenery shots around there
02:51 < Yoda> that could be another "chilled" thing we could all take part in
02:52 < Yoda> Leynos: Virtua Cop - the first one?
02:52 < Leynos> The PS2 version
02:52 < Leynos> Actually, Virtua Cop 1 & 2
02:52 < Yoda> have you seen in Teviot, they have the new Time Crisi
02:52 < Yoda> have you seen in Teviot, they have the new Time Crisis
02:52 < Leynos> Yeah
02:52 < Yoda> fantastic game
02:52 < Leynos> It r0x0rz \m/
02:52 < Yoda> got past level 1
02:52 < Yoda> (i.e. first three stages)
02:53 < Yoda> but then was chucked out cos they were closing
02:53 < Leynos> I sux0r tho
02:53 < Yoda> such a good game
02:53 < Yoda> we should have a two player game sometime
02:54 < Leynos> Yeah.  I played with Bruce, but we didn't get very far
02:54 < Yoda> how far?
02:54 < Yoda> stage 1, 2, 3?
02:54 < Leynos> 3rd part of 1st stage
02:54 < Leynos> er
02:54 < Leynos> 1-3
02:55 < Leynos> The bit with the plane
02:55 < Yoda> yeah, that rocks
02:56 < Yoda> http://downloads-zdnet.com.com/3000-2150-10188713.html?tag=lst-0-23
02:56 < Yoda> IsMyMateCheatingOnline Remote Spy Software Key Logger 6.0  
02:57 < Yoda> a bit extreme, don't you think?
02:57 < Leynos> Sounds like something you'd get in a spam
02:58 < Yoda> do you think it could be installed on the windows box at uni?
02:58 < Leynos> no idea
02:58 < Leynos> Probably not unless you obtained the admin password
03:11 < Yoda> night
03:11 < Leynos> later
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09:54 < beaneater> hardware keyloggers
10:09 < Yoda> ?
10:09 < Yoda> oh, the keylogger thing
10:23 < Yoda> does anyone know what 2nd pre-image resistance means?
10:24 < Yoda> (from CS Cryptography)
10:24 < Yoda> it doesn't explain it well in the notes
11:32 < Electron> doesn't it mean it's impossible to find two values which hash to the same value?
11:32 < Electron> no, that's collision resistanc
11:32 < Electron> e
12:27 < beaneater> it does
12:27 < beaneater> explains it okay
12:27 < Yoda> just that I don't see the difference between 2nd pre-image resistance with collision resistance
12:28 < Yoda> i know one implies the other
12:28 < beaneater> from memory, given h(x) and x, it means it is hard to find x' such that h(x')=h(x)
12:28 < Yoda> but just wondering whether there's some other different
12:28 < Electron> pre-image is finding a value from the hash value, collision is finding a hash value from a value isn't it?
12:28 < beaneater> collision difference is finding *any* x, x' such that h(x)=h(x')
12:28 < Yoda> oh
12:28 < Yoda> k, thanks mate
12:29 < Electron> hmm, I have a bad feeling about this exam
12:29 < beaneater> Electron: right on the pre-image, but I'm not with you on collision resitance
12:29 < Yoda> you're not the only one
12:29 < beaneater> ah it's good
12:30 < beaneater> started that old revision an hour ago
12:30 < Electron> beaneater: collision is finding an x,x' such that h(x)=h(x') iirc
12:30 < Yoda> hold on, collision is if its impossible to find h(x) == h(y) for some different x and y
12:30 < Yoda> right?
12:30 < Electron> yes
12:30 < beaneater> Electron: that's what I said
12:30 < Yoda> yeah
12:30 < Electron> I know
12:31 < Yoda> cool, sorted
12:31 < Yoda> any indication of what *might* be in the exam?
12:31 < beaneater> there's a past paper
12:31 < beaneater> and a sample paper
12:31 < beaneater> er specimen
12:31 < Electron> and past
12:32 < Electron> oh yeah
12:32 < Yoda> but do u think he'll put the same questions in?
12:32 < Electron> we can but hope
12:32 < beaneater> sorry Yoda, I don't have a copy of the paper yet ;)
12:32 < beaneater> the courier is late.
12:32 < Yoda> damn ... all these security skills ...
12:32 < Yoda> and yet, can't get into David Aspinall's computer
12:33 < Yoda> well, account anyway
12:33 < Electron> I studied CS last night ... by reading www.trustedbsd.com
12:33 < Electron> was surprised to see MLS actually being implemented
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12:50 < beaneater> Question 1. (a) How does Kerberos work? (use standard notation) (b) Convert this to BAN (c) Is this correct? Prove it.
12:53 < beaneater> Question 2. Write an essay detailing the history of cryptography, from early techniques to present day, including all major achievements. Include references.
12:54 < beaneater> Questino 3. What is the plaintext for the following 3DES-encrypted string? Show your working.
12:55 < Yoda> lol
12:56 < beaneater> Yoda: does that help?
12:56 < Yoda> yeah, thanks, I'll be sure to double check all my references before going into the exam ;)
12:59 < Yoda> What seems to be the biggest problem with DES is the key size. This was demonstrated in 1998 when the Electronic Frontier Foundation (aka EFF) built a hardware encryption machine (named "Deep Crack")
12:59 < Yoda> "Deep Crack"
13:01 < beaneater> heh, I didn't know that the salt method in UNIX was specifically chosen to stop standard DES chips being used
13:02 < beaneater> ah, *that*'s why Acrobat was running slow
13:02 < beaneater> Didn't realise that I had 20 PDFs open
13:03 < Yoda> do you reckon that we need to know exactly how DES works?
13:04 < beaneater> the basic structure I'd say.
13:15 < beaneater> damn, this stuff is too much just easy reading
13:15 < beaneater> keep forgetting to revise it
13:23 < Yoda> easy reading?
13:24 < beaneater> yeah
13:24 < Yoda> it's taken me all morning to go through and attempt to understand this cryptography crap
13:24 < Yoda> all this math
13:24 < beaneater> It's easy to just say "Oh yeah, that sounds reasonable"
13:24 < beaneater> not done much crypto yet today
13:24 < beaneater> I'll probably look at HAC again
13:24 < Yoda> rest is not bad
13:24 < Yoda> but just BAN, and internet security
13:25 < Yoda> in various forms
13:25 < beaneater> BAN is nice
13:25 < Yoda> it is totally, not too hard
13:25 < Yoda> just to learn the various rules
13:30 < beaneater> wtf are these exams in the morning
13:30 < beaneater> dratted inconvenience.
13:34 < Yoda> just 8 mins until i finish downloading the latest Friends episode
13:35 < Yoda> how exciting!
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16:44 < beaneater> it's really handy that the CS slides use \phi(x) for the number of primes <= x, right beside the euler phi function 
17:35 < Yoda> I love the way it compresses 6 slides on one page
17:35 < Yoda> and tries to do 24 slides in one lecture
17:36 < Yoda> and then says, well, i'm going to skip these 4 slides
17:36 < Yoda> go and read them up
17:38 < beaneater> it does?
17:38 < Yoda> it does what?
17:38 < beaneater> 17:38 < Yoda> I love the way it compresses 6 slides on one page
17:38 < beaneater> 17:38 < Yoda> and tries to do 24 slides in one lecture
17:38 < beaneater> 17:39 < Yoda> and then says, well, i'm going to skip these 4 slides
17:38 < Yoda> didn't you go the the lectures?
17:39 < beaneater> no
17:39 < Yoda> well ... 
17:39 < beaneater> it=da?
17:39 < Yoda> ?
17:39 < beaneater> 17:41 < beaneater> 17:38 < Yoda> I love the way it compresses 6 slides on one page
17:39 < Yoda> anyway
17:39 < beaneater> it=David Aspinall?
17:39 < Yoda> he does
17:39 < Yoda> yeah
17:40 < Yoda> it/he - whatever
17:40 < beaneater> referring to the lecturer as "it" was confusing me
17:40 < Yoda> have to go and find and consume food
17:40 < beaneater> I was wondering why the slides skipped slides
17:40 < Yoda> sorry
17:40 < beaneater> good idea.
17:40 < Yoda> lol
17:40 < Yoda>  slides skipped slides
17:40 < Yoda> lol
17:40 < beaneater> Actually, from the lectures I went to
17:40 -!- Yoda is now known as Yoda|food
17:40 < beaneater> he only skipped slides because he couldn't work acrobat
17:41 < beaneater> ;)
17:42 < Yoda|food> yeah, there was that
17:42 < Yoda|food> but in the crypto notes
17:43 < Yoda|food> he skipped the whole DES thing
17:43 < Yoda|food> didn't he?
17:43 < beaneater> You would
17:43 < beaneater> the notes are nasty
17:43 < beaneater> and basically skip DES
17:44 < beaneater> or maybe I glaze over.
17:44 < Electron> there was one lecture where he couldn't remember the stuff
17:44 < beaneater> heh
17:44 < Electron> that was funny
17:44 < beaneater> which one?
17:45 < Electron> one of the crypto ones near the end of the course
17:57 < beaneater> having read graphics yesterday, I have the urge to take a hexagonal cross-section of the example security lattice
17:58 < Yoda|food> lol
17:59 < Yoda|food> i just thought ... what are the security implications of star trek
17:59 < pajh> ?
17:59 < Yoda|food> they all shout their command codes out
17:59 < Yoda|food> anyone to write them down
17:59 < Yoda|food> Paul - thanks for joining us
18:00 < beaneater> pajh!!1!
18:00 < Yoda|food> !11!!!
18:00 < meng|away> !!11!!
18:01 < pajh> they change the codes weekly, or every 24 hours during a red alert situation
18:01 < pajh> and the computer uses voice recognition
18:02 < beaneater> I'm Nicholas Wolverson, my voice is my password.
18:02 < pajh> passport.
18:02 < pajh> Verify me.
18:02 < beaneater> is it? damn.
18:02 < pajh> Verify me harder.
18:02 < meng|away> a league of crackers with tape recorders
18:03 < beaneater> pajh: O-K. Why?
18:04 < Yoda|food> 24 hrs?
18:04 < beaneater> #it's okay why worry?
18:04 < Yoda|food> but that's plenty of time to do damage
18:05 < beaneater> pajh: I give in, where was that from?
18:06 < Yoda|food> i really have to do some work
18:06 < Yoda|food> just skipped for 3 hrs to go and watch the rugby down at Porty
18:06 < Yoda|food> bad, so bad
18:25 < pajh> Sneakers
18:25 < beaneater> gah.
18:26 < beaneater> I guess "voice is my password" would have been worse.
18:35 < pajh> but they have voice recognition.
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18:39 < Yoda> what? like no one can imitate someone else's voice?
18:39 < Yoda> i don't think so ...
18:40 < Yoda> anyway, more revision
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18:55 < pajh> no, Kate, no one can imitate someone else's voice.
18:56 < pajh> maybe shapeshifting aliens.
18:56 < Yoda|revising> what about those comedians
18:56 < pajh> no.
18:56 < Yoda|revising> you know, the imitation ones
18:56 < Yoda|revising> bet they can
18:57 < Yoda|revising> you could fake retina, why not voice
18:57 < Electron> revision sucks - I've given up studying for today
18:57 < pajh> bet they can't fool a computer.
18:57 < pajh> hoiw can you fake retina?
18:57  * Yoda|revising points out Charlie's Angel
18:57 < Yoda|revising> contact lens
18:57 < pajh> do you have a load of spares in your cupboiard?
18:57 < Yoda|revising> or retina? or contact lens?
18:57 < Yoda|revising> I have lens, but not retinas
18:58 < pajh> I defy you to do it in real life.
18:58 < Yoda|revising> i don't have the skill, but i bet you could do it if you wanted to
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19:09 < Electron> eh?
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19:40 < Yoda|revising> mmm
19:40 < Yoda|revising> he keeps pinging out
19:41 -!- Yoda|revising changed the topic of #compsoc to: <beaneater> I'm Nicholas Wolverson, my voice is my password.
19:43 < pajh> passPORT.
19:43 -!- pajh changed the topic of #compsoc to: Windows ME! Windows ME HARDER!
19:44 < Yoda|revising> wtf?
19:44  * Yoda|revising slaps pajh very VERY hard
19:44 < pajh> wot, no trout?
19:44 < Yoda|revising> i knew you would say that
19:44 < Yoda|revising> no, no trout
19:44 < Yoda|revising> getting boring
19:45 < pajh> no shit.
19:46 -!- Yoda|revising changed the topic of #compsoc to: "Torrentse.cx is like getting fucked by two beautiful girls while a third one feeds you chocolate." 
19:46 < pajh> somehow I doubt it.
19:47 < Yoda|revising> i don't know how you can get fucked by two girls at the same time
19:47 < Yoda|revising> you can with 2 guys
19:47 < Yoda|revising> but 2 girls? the physics
19:47 < pajh> silly girl. So naive.
19:47 < Yoda|revising> sorry ...
19:47 < Yoda|revising> have i missed something
19:49 < pajh> evidently.
19:51 < Yoda|revising> right
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19:54 -!- pajh changed the topic of #compsoc to: <Marge Simpson>Well, I do have more than one G spot</Marge Simpson> <homer> Woo hoo! </homer>
20:00 < Yoda|revising> just finished downloading Office XP, then realised I haven't used MS Office since I switched to LaTeX
20:00 < Yoda|revising> so pointless really
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22:03 < pajh> uberjoe
22:03 < pajh> uberjoe
22:03 < uberjoe> yo
22:03 < pajh> he wants to eat us, this we know
22:03 < uberjoe> is that a limeric ?
22:04 < pajh> www.rathergood.com/blode6
22:04 < uberjoe> new blode ?
22:04 < pajh> not new.
22:04 < uberjoe> ah
22:04 < uberjoe> uber-pea :)
22:07 < uberjoe> i'll eat you if your english
22:07 < uberjoe> i'll eat you if your french
22:08 < uberjoe> i'll you if your roger moore
22:08 < uberjoe> or if your judy dench
22:14 < pajh> I like eating people
22:14 < pajh> of every different type
22:14 < pajh> and when I'm full of eating them
22:15 < pajh> I put them in my pipe
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23:01 -!- You're now known as meng
23:04 < Pronto> you are such a liar, you were never "away"
23:04 < meng> yeah, i'm always watching you
23:05  * Pronto looks around
23:05 < Pronto> mmm
23:05 < Pronto> or hmmm
23:06 < Pronto> would you need permission to read a file if you have permission to execute it?
23:07 < meng> depends on system, but not always
23:08 < meng> a
23:08 < meng> b
23:08 < beaneater> it makes sense to be able to execute a program without being able to read it
23:08 < beaneater> "Help, the users might copy the binary!"
23:08 -!- You're now known as meng_
23:09 -!- You're now known as meng
23:09 < beaneater> _
23:09 -!- You're now known as meng_
23:09 -!- You're now known as meng
23:09 -!- You're now known as meng_
23:10 < meng_> boring server spoil my plan
23:10 < Pronto> sorry guys, another question: what does append mean? there's exec, read, write ...
23:10 < Pronto> and append?
23:10 < beaneater> append is write to the end of a file
23:10 < beaneater> e.g. logs
23:10 < Pronto> how's that different to write?:
23:10 < beaneater> appeand doesn't imply read
23:10 < meng_> the remainder of the file stays the same
23:10 < meng_> whereas in overwrite it disappears
23:10 < Pronto> o
23:10 < beaneater> to write a file, you might change bits, 
23:13 < meng_> I'll search across the land, look far and wide
23:13 < meng_> Release from my hand, the power that's inside! 
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23:29 < Yoda> damn windows box
23:29 < Yoda> keeps crashing every two hours
23:32 < beaneater> hehe
23:32 < beaneater> lame.
23:48 < Yoda> mmm, can you actually delete a file without having read or write permission to it?
23:48 < meng_> yes
23:48 < Yoda> doesn't that compromise "integrity" of the file?
23:49 < meng_> yes
23:49 < meng_> but you're not changing the file, you're changing the directory it's in
23:50 < meng_> so it's the permissions of the directory that count
23:52  * beaneater goes to bed
23:52 < beaneater> ruddy exams
23:52 < beaneater> shouldn't be allowed to happen before noon
23:52 < Yoda> lol
23:52 < Yoda> night mate
23:53 < Yoda> they shouldn't be allowed to happen at all
23:53 < beaneater> yup
23:53 < Electron> exams are just wrong
23:53 < Yoda> so, so wrong
23:54 < Yoda> they only test your memory
23:54 < beaneater> Not so.
23:54 < Yoda> ?
23:54 < Yoda> do expand
23:54 < beaneater> Exams can test both understanding and recall
23:57 < Yoda> Michael, what's Iain's phone number?
23:58 < meng_> 229 4535
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00:25 < Yoda> Does anyone remember the Animals of Farthing Wood?
00:25 < Electron> I think so
00:26 -!- Electron is now known as Electron|zzz
00:26 < Yoda> night
00:26 < Electron|zzz> nn
00:32 < Yoda> right, i'm off to bed too
00:33 < Yoda> night kids
00:33 -!- Yoda is now known as Yoda|Sleep
00:47 < pajh> beaneater lies.
00:55 < meng_> about?
00:59 < meng_> Karama and colleagues now report findings from an fMRI study describing gender differences in the neural correlates of sexual arousal [1]. Selection of the erotic films used for the study was made after careful consideration and piloting.
01:07 -!- You're now known as meng
01:16 < pajh> (`careful consideration and piloting')++
01:52 < pajh> owwwwwwwwwww.
06:09 -!- Electron|zzz is now known as Electron
07:42 -!- Yoda|Sleep is now known as Yoda
08:03 < Electron> mornin'
08:04 < Yoda> morning matey
08:04 < Yoda> ready for this exam?
08:05 < Electron> not really :)
08:05 < Electron> you?
08:07 < pajh> good luck, you two.
08:07 < Yoda> us three actually
08:08 < Yoda> Nick is doing it as well ;)
08:40 < beaneater> *mutter*
08:40 < beaneater> morning.
11:20 < beaneater> </CS>
11:40 < Electron> I can't believe that just happened - are exam papers not checked?!
12:01 < beaneater> oh
12:01 < beaneater> I didn't even notice
12:01 < beaneater> it was just a mistaken subscript, right?
12:02 < beaneater> I'm betting that the checkers just read what they expected to see, as I did
12:02 < Electron> think so - I did q1 and q3 though
12:02 < Electron> yeah
12:03 < Electron> bah, they changed the format of the exam this year :(
12:03 < beaneater> how so?
12:06 < Electron> different sort of questions - like q3 was all about virtual machines and stuff, no crypto
12:08 < Electron> anyway ... only 1 more exam left
12:26 < beaneater> dammit 
12:33 < beaneater> .htaccess was causing redirects. 
12:42 < Yoda> that was awful
12:42 < Yoda> BAN proof in 15mins
12:42 < Yoda> and only for 10 marks?
12:43 < Yoda> I'm going to beat DA up
12:43 < Electron> you did the BAN question? I did 1 and 3 since I can't do BAN
12:43 < Electron> but I agree, that exam was awful
12:48 < Yoda> yeah I did question 2
12:48 < Yoda> but what a mistake
12:48 < Yoda> i was going to switch to 1
12:48 < Yoda> but I'd already spent half an hour on it
12:49 < Yoda> besides, surely if you know the key of B and S, you could do shit loads more than just pretend to A that you're B
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13:02 < beaneater> er
13:02 < beaneater> when did you find out the key?
13:02 < beaneater> even if you manage to extend the lifetime, it's still encrypted
13:03 < beaneater> still need to crack it.
13:03 < beaneater> Anybody know when exam results get back?
17:51 < Electron> nope
20:56 < uberjoe> hmm, anybody know the name of the USB module ?
20:57 < Electron> uhci ?
20:57 < Electron> for usb1, ehci for usb2 iirc
20:58 < Electron> if you mean Linux, that is?
21:00 < uberjoe> yup
21:01 < uberjoe> it would appear I forgot to add into my last kernel
21:01 < uberjoe> would it be possible to just make the module and load it without rebooting ?
21:01 < Electron> should be
21:01 < uberjoe> ooh
21:01 < uberjoe> hmm
21:02 < uberjoe> back up current modules then make a new kernel with USB as a module ?
21:02 < Electron> yeah, that should work
21:09 < uberjoe> la la la
21:09 < uberjoe> hmm, my usb port should be /dev/usb/lp0 right ?
21:10 < Electron> usb printer?
21:11 < uberjoe> yup
21:11 < uberjoe> well, lp0 or lp1
21:11 < Electron> might be, try reading the man page
21:11 < uberjoe> man usb ?
21:11 < Electron> oops, linux doesn't have device-specific man pages, does it :D
21:12 < uberjoe> funny
21:12 < Electron> ls /dev/usb
21:12 < Electron> see what's there
21:12 < Electron> if you're using devfs
21:14 < Electron> ok, try lsusb, or if you're gonna be using usb a bit install hotplug
21:23 < uberjoe> lsusb doesn't exist apparently
21:26 < beaneater> I wanna know when I know my exam results
21:26 < beaneater> :(
21:28 < Electron> I don't, and the longer I don't know, the better :)
21:28 < beaneater> pah
21:29 < beaneater> I wonder what happened last year
21:29 < Electron> why don't you go ask the peeps on #gamesoc?
21:29 < beaneater> gamesoccers should know?
21:29 < Electron> Avendit and poly|monk are graduates
21:30 < Electron> as is Tiberios
21:30 < Electron> oh, and Flinty
21:38 < beaneater> bizarre spam
21:38 < beaneater> "and we are delighted to inform you that your website, beaneater.org.uk,
21:38 < beaneater> has been nominated for an award in the most confusing website category."
21:56 < uberjoe> root@pants:/lib/modules/2.4.20# modprobe uhci
21:56 < uberjoe> /lib/modules/2.4.20/kernel/drivers/usb/usbcore.o: unresolved symbol irq_stat_Rsmp_ed7388c8
21:56 < uberjoe> /lib/modules/2.4.20/kernel/drivers/usb/usbcore.o: unresolved symbol kernel_flag_cacheline_Rsmp_7956468f
21:56 < uberjoe> /lib/modules/2.4.20/kernel/drivers/usb/usbcore.o: insmod /lib/modules/2.4.20/kernel/drivers/usb/usbcore.o failed
21:56 < uberjoe> /lib/modules/2.4.20/kernel/drivers/usb/usbcore.o: insmod uhci failed
21:56 < uberjoe> that don't look so good
22:57 < meng> you built the module with smp support, but you don't have smp in your kernel
22:57 < uberjoe> oh
22:57 < uberjoe> so get rid of smp stuff ?
23:03 < meng> build your module with as close to the options you built your kernel with
23:04 < meng> ie. yes
--- Log closed Mon Apr 28 23:05:00 2003